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[Guest]

<b>Musharraf pushed Pakistan towards anarchy</b>
I always knew, he is still Delhiwala.

[Naresh]

<b>Mudy Ji :</b>

General Bandicoot is a Pakistani - First & Last!

Please do not insult the Delhiwalas.

Here’s the Real McCoy – its far more juicier :

<b>Musharraf played havoc with nation</b>

<b>RAWALPINDI : The views expressed by Gen (Retd) Pervez Musharraf are tantamount to rubbing salt into the wounds of the nation because it is dictatorship that pushed Pakistan towards a political and constitutional anarchy.</b>

Commenting on the press conference of Gen Musharraf, MNA Ahsan Iqbal, information secretary of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), said on Geo TV’s ‘Aaj Kamran Khan Ke Sath’: <b>“Pakistan had received 80 billion dollars since 2002 but no project was executed for development in the country but the money has vanished,” he said.</b>

The PML-N leader said that the Army has a chief and the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) also has a director-general so if any conspiracy is being hatched against these institutions, they have the right to speak. So why is Musharraf pleading the case of the two institutions? “He (Musharraf) pitched the Army against the people, which led to confrontation between the people and the military. The ISI has been used to gain political objectives during his regime. He (Musharraf) harmed the Army and the ISI to such an extent that no enemy is needed after him. Musharraf must be tried for his actions,” he said.

Ahsan Iqbal said that if allegations are being levelled against Musharraf, he should file a suit against the author of the book in a US court. He said that Musharraf pleased the US because he did not enjoy support locally and had come into power with American blessings.

Commenting on the press conference of Musharraf, Professor Ghafoor Ahmed of the Jamaat-e-Islami said it is unfortunate that Musharraf maligned the Army and sensitive institutions more than anybody else. He said that Musharraf used the Army according to US dictates. He recalled that when Musharraf held two offices, he used to say that he issues orders and the military obeys him. He said that Musharraf used the ISI against the politicians and created a party by picking up people from other parties.

“Musharraf is the first person who used the Army in Balochistan and the tribal areas and we are facing its consequences today. It is an irony of fate that Musharraf abrogated the Constitution twice but no action has been taken against him whereas Article 6 of the Constitution describes it as high treason. He should be tried in a court of law. He handed over Pakistanis to the US and admitted this fact in his book. The US paid for it but the funds did not reach the national exchequer but went into the pockets of Musharraf. These are the crimes for which he should be tried,” the Jamaat-e-Islami leader said.

In his comments, former ISI chief Lt Gen (Retd) Hamid Gul said that the ISI and Army has always been a target because these are the defence lines of the country. He said the friends of Musharraf are after Pakistan and what he did with the country with the help of his friends is no secret. He said Musharraf is enjoying the life of a free citizen after retirement because he still enjoys US blessings. But, he added, now Musharraf is afraid of losing US blessings. He said if Musharraf has some reservations over the book of an American author, he should sue him.

“The image of the Army and the ISI was tarnished during the Musharraf regime. This person (Musharraf) created a gulf between the Pakistani people and Army and it will take a long time to be bridged He (Musharraf) infused the fear of the US and India into the nation. A conspiracy is being hatched against the country and the Army and Musharraf not only knew it but knowingly or unknowing remained part of the conspiracy. Now he is facing difficulties in his personal capacity,” he said.

Explaining the conspiracy against Pakistan and the Army, Lt Gen (Retd) Gul said that in the reports submitted to US President Barack Obama it has been stated that all roads of terrorism meet in Pakistan and this clearly shows the intentions of the US. He said the US could not attack Pakistan from outside so the Americans are destabilising Pakistan internally.

Commenting on reports about recording of the army officers’ telephone calls, Javed Ashraf Qazi, another former ISI chief, said that recording the calls controlled by the military is extremely difficult but if civil communication system or a satellite is used, then calls could be recorded. He said if Musharraf’s conversation in China was recorded, it would have been made through the civil system but in the system used by the Army calls could not be taped.

About the statement of Musharraf regarding maligning of the Army and the ISI, Javed Ashraf Qazi said those who wanted to destabilise Pakistan would weaken the ISI, which is the frontline of the country’s defence. He said that some western and other countries have been trying to do so. He said if the Army were criticised instead of supported, this action too would weaken the Army so the military needs the complete support of masses. He said he believed that the Army and the ISI are following the government’s policies and could not pursue any other policy.

“Musharraf has tried to transfer his burden to Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani because he was the ISI chief when Musharraf was heading the Army. What has been stated in the book pertains to the double standards during the Musharraf regime and he has refuted it but the book contains proof,” said senior journalist Imtiaz Alam. “As for Musharraf’s claim that his conversation could not be recorded, the reality is altogether different. Musharraf’s conversation was also recorded during the Kargil conflict and the Indians had provided that tape to Nawaz Sharif,” he said.

Imtiaz Alam said Musharraf’s stance that there were no double standards is wrong because duplicity was rampant throughout his regime. He recalled that the Kargil issue was the creation of Musharraf and then he assured India of peace in 2004. On the one hand, the Army soldiers were being martyred in the tribal areas but on the other the elements backed by Musharraf were arming the Taliban, he said.

Another senior columnist, Nazir Naji pointed out that Musharraf’s conversation in question is with Benazir Bhutto, who at that time was not in the country so it was a private call that was recorded. He said Musharraf’s record of speaking the truth is not so magnificent that one could believe in his latest utterances. He recalled that Musharraf had given an interview to an American news agency but later disowned it and when it was posted on the internet he kept silent. He said Musharraf launched the Kargil operation and later claimed that he did so in consultation with the prime minister. He said now Musharraf is saving himself from allegations using the Army as a shield. He said the Pakistan Army produced very brilliant generals but also produced those who are a black spot on its face. He said the army and the ISI are facing the consequences of what Musharraf did. He said had Musharraf kept the prestige of the Army in view, he would not have talked in this way and would have taken the Army into confidence. He said Musharraf piled up lies and pushed the Army towards destruction and it is because of his actions that now soldiers are not being respected despite embracing martyrdom.

Senior journalist and analyst Irfan Siddiqui said the talk of Musharraf did not demonstrate in any way that he is ashamed of his deeds. “We may have numerous difference with the incumbent government but whatever is happening now has been inherited by them. The happenings after February 18 are result of his policies. Musharraf will have to answer for the decision he took on a single call from abroad. How Pakistani sovereignty was put on stake and the US was allowed to use the Pakistani soil. How army was moved into the tribal areas. Nobody brought as much disrepute to the army as brought by Musharraf,” he said.

Irfan Siddiqui said that Musharraf used the Army and his uniform for prolonging his rule and trampling the courts. He said the press conference of Musharraf was an arranged one. He should tender an apology to the nation. He said that Musharraf himself disengaged the ISI from the tribal areas and provided bases to the CIA and the FBI. He said if Musharraf has no courage to accept his blunders before the Army, he should keep mum and avoid rubbing salt into wounds of the nation.

Mujib-ur-Rehman Shami, another senior journalist, said the Pakistani nation believes that Musharraf served the US very honestly and sincerely and gave the Americans much more than he got from them. He said Musharraf’s colleagues have already told the nation that he has been taking decisions without consulting the corps commanders and also did not take parliament into confidence. He said the time has come that all these matters are investigated. He said Musharraf settled matters with the US against the aspirations of the Pakistani people and put the national institutions in trouble.

<b>Senior analyst Haroon-ur-Rashid said that Musharraf is not defending the Army and ISI but he is seeking help from the two institutions. He said it is a nature of Musharraf to confuse the masses. He said Musharraf damaged the country and served the US. He said that Musharraf should be tried in a court of law.</b> He said that the US is saving Musharraf and Zardari is doing so on the US’s demand. He said the Army and ISI did not play double game but killing their own brothers is not their duty. He said although the Army is performing its duty but it is unhappy with it. <b>He said that basically Musharraf is a fraudster and no bigger cheat than him could be found in the world.</b>

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[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mudy Ji :

General Bandicoot is a Pakistani - First & Last!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nareshji,
You missed my point. Mushy and Mudy birth place is same hospital in Delhi and both wish for destruction of Pakistan through anarchy. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Only diffenerce, Mushy is actually doing and Mudy is just screaming on net. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Husky]

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Feb 18 2009, 03:46 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Feb 18 2009, 03:46 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Nareshji,
You missed my point. Mushy and Mudy birth place is same hospital in Delhi and both wish for destruction of Pakistan through anarchy.  <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->  Only diffenerce, Mushy is actually doing and Mudy is just screaming on net.  <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Well, good luck to the poisonous Mushroom in this enterprise.
Maybe being born in the same hospital means you have some influence - heretofore unknown to us - on the mushroom. So concentrate Mudy: remote control him to carry out this destiny (of doing in/depossessing Pakistan so it can be reborn as the Hindu nation it used to be) fast and successfully <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

<i>You remind me of the babe
"What babe?"
The babe with the Power
"What power?"
The power of voodoo
"Who do?"
You do
"Do what?"
Remind me of the babe!</i>
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[Naresh]

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Feb 18 2009, 03:46 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Feb 18 2009, 03:46 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mudy Ji :

General Bandicoot is a Pakistani - First & Last!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nareshji,
You missed my point. Mushy and Mudy birth place is same hospital in Delhi and both wish for destruction of Pakistan through anarchy. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Only diffenerce, Mushy is actually doing and Mudy is just screaming on net. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<b>Mudy Ji :</b>

May Heavens Aid Mushy in his Endeavours to Destroy Pakistan <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->!

Aap Kay Munh Mein Ghee Shakkur!!

May the Force be with You!!!

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[Naresh]

<b>First blast after peace deal kills 8</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->PESHAWAR - As many as eight people including two assailants were killed and 17 others got injured, many of them critically, when a bomb planted in a car blew up outside the house of Union Nazim Bazid Khel, Faheemur Rehman, in Badabair area here Tuesday, police said.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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[Husky]

Christogovt installed in India helps TSP to obtain more money.

http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/02/us-...rk-founder.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>UPA drops its pants and bends over for the Jihadis in Porkistan</b>
feb 17th, 2009

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From: Ghatotkacha Nair


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/C...how/4144086.cms


17 Feb 2009

Militants loyal to Maulana Fazlullah kidnapped Chinese engineer, Long Xiaowei Khal town of Lower Dir district on August 29, in the Dir region.

Cash strapped Jihadistan Government could not get funding with out strings attached from U.S Government. Then they went to their "all weather friend" China which promptly rebuffed them.

Chastened by the experience the Jihadistan Government then went to the hated "White Christian" IMF for a loan. There they found to their horror most trusted and friendly countries like Saudi Arabia, China and UAE kept their mum and did not bother to utter even one word in its favour.

The shameless, treacherous, traitorous, eunuch dispensation going by the name and style of UPA dropped its pants and bent over. Its representative vehemently supported Pakis at the meeting of the International Monetary Fund in which the fund approved 7.60 billion Dollars bail-out package.

<b>To secure China's support, Jihadistan Government released eight Taliban prisoners in order to secure the release of Long Xiaowei.</b> Long was released from captivity on Saturday. China, which earlier rebuffed Pakistan's request for financial support, is now keen on extending assistance to help cash strapped Jihadistan to recover from its economic woes.

China has a government that acts in China's national self interest. When will have a government that acts in our national self interest? Only when we show some sense and vote for a nationalist government.

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[Naresh]

<b>Pak Embassy in Tehran attacked</b>

TEHRAN (SANA): Protesting against Shia-Sunni clashes of Parachinar, more that hundred Iranian attacked on Pakistan Embassy.

They held placards saying “Death to Wahabies”, “Death to Taliban”, “Death to Yazidyaat”, “Death to America” “Death to American allies”, etc.

They, in no time started raising slogans and said all what was written on the banners (Above).

Later, the demonstrators started throwing stones on the Embassy building. All the front windows were broken by the demonstrators in the meanwhile a protestor with the help of his two friends climbed at the main door of the Embassy and removed the Pakistani Flag from their. The flag was torn into pieces and was also burnt later on.

<b>It is pertinent to mention here that all this happened in the presence of the Iranian Diplomatic and the regular police.

The demonstrators threatened the Embassy officials and shouted at them saying just come out and to see what would be done to them. The most surprising of all is that there was no condemnation of the event nor condemnation of burning Pakistani flag was seen in any Iranian news paper.

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[Shambhu]

<!--QuoteBegin-Naresh+Feb 18 2009, 10:40 PM-->QUOTE(Naresh @ Feb 18 2009, 10:40 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pak Embassy in Tehran attacked</b>
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Bismillah ur Rehmaan ur Raheem.

And lo! In the early days of the new rule in the land of the Kaafir who play with the skin of the pig, The Revolutionary Guard shall put the Taliban in its place; the mushriqeen have to be shown who the real muslim is. For Allah is most beneficient, most merciful.

--Sahi Muslim 72:36

[Husky]

Latest evidence for how islamism is for freedom of speech, journalism and all that. Angelsk journalists of India would be happiest in TSP:

http://dailypioneer.com/157697/Slain-TV-re...let-wounds.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->FRONT PAGE | Friday, February 20, 2009 | Email | Print |

<b>Slain TV reporter had 32 bullet wounds</b>

PTI | Islamabad

Angry Pak journalists hold protest march

The body of slain TV reporter Musa Khan Khel was riddled with 32 bullet wounds in what is being described as a “deliberate and planned” killing in volatile Swat, as hundreds of Pakistani journalists on Thursday took out protest marches across north-west Pakistan and vowed not to back down.

The killing of 28-year-old Musa, a Swat correspondent for private Geo TV, by unknown gunmen triggered a wave of anger among the journalists who condemned the killings of scribes in the troubled region. The attacks against mediamen is an attempt to scare them away from the restive region, they said.

The journalists wearing black bands on their arms and foreheads shouted slogans like “We want justice!”, “we want Musa Khan Khel’s killers arrested!” and “we salute Musa Khan Khel’s courage!”, as they staged protests outside the Governor’s house in the main NWFP city of Peshawar.

Musa’s colleague Hamid Mir said they would not be cowed down and will not stop reporting from the tense Swat region and demanded that the killing be investigated.

At the rally at Swat, where the reporter was killed, speakers, who included Hamid Mir and journalist union leaders, termed the killing as "deliberate and cold blooded" so that the "happenings" there do not reach the outside world.

Mir said Musa’s killing was “deliberate and planned” as his body had as many as 32 gunshot wounds.

Azhar Abbas, the managing director of Geo, said Musa had been shot several times in his upper body, and his throat was partly slit.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Naresh]

<b>Funeral blast kills 20 in Pakistan</b>

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[Naresh]

<b>Pakistan’s reservations on Kishenganga legitimate, says FO</b>

MELBOURNE : The race between Pakistan and India to see who finishes first the construction of hydro-electricity project on the Neelum River in Azad Kashmir or on the Kishenganga across the Line of Control by the Indian authorities, continues.

According to Indian media reports, the provisions of the water-sharing pact, the Indus Water Treaty, signed by the two countries in 1960, stipulate that only the power project which is completed first will be held genuine: the other will be considered invalid.

When this point was put to the spokesman at the Foreign Office, he commented, “Our reservations about the building of Kishenganga are legitimate. While India (in 2006), accepting our viewpoint, agreed to turn the Kishenganga into a run-of-river project, diversion of water to the Wuller Lake still poses serious problems for us. We hope to settle the issue through bilateral mechanisms as provided for in the Indus Water Treaty.”

Peerzada Arshad Hamid, commenting in Tehelka, says that New Delhi admits that the standoff on this project has geo-strategic implications. Hamid says that on the Indian side, the National Hydroelectric Power Corporation is implementing a $740 million 330 MW project in the Gurez Valley. On Pakistan’s side, it is Wapda working on a $2.16 billion Neelum-Jhelum project using a Chinese consortium.

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[Naresh]

[center]<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>VALIANT PAKISTANI ARMY SURRENDERS TO THE TALEBAN</span></b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/center]

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/20090221.htm

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A couple of years ago, when writing about Swat, I had used one of Lenin’s revolutionary maxims: <b>“Probe with a bayonet: if you meet steel, stop. If you meet mush, then push.” Time and again, extremists, terrorists and just plain criminals have been meeting mush, and they have been pushing.</b> The result of this aggressive probing is that the state’s writ now barely extends beyond the boundaries of Mingora.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Increasingly, Zardari resembles a man with a begging bowl in one hand, and a gun in the other pointed at his own head. The reality is that for decades, we have sacrificed the bulk of our resources to support a vast defence apparatus we could ill afford.</b> The extremist menace that threatens to destroy us was largely a creation of our own military establishment. And now that we need the army to defend us, we find it is not up to the task.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>If the Taliban bayonet keeps meeting mush, it will soon be at every Pakistani’s throat.</span></b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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[Guest]

Paki Army had no choice but to surrender because Zia started radicalization of Pak Army. Killing other Muslim is harm plus non commissioned comes from these area and to avoid internal Army revolt they signed this deal. It shows even US failed to destroy SWAT area and Paki Army lost patience with dip dip dropping of bombs strategy of US.

[Naresh]

<b>Mudy Ji :</b>

I think that the Pakistani Army’s surrender to the Taliban will in the next – say - five years or so result in a complete Taliban takeover of the Pakistani Army wherein the Pakistani Army will be under the heel and diktat of the Taliban.

In these circumstances is imperative for the Government of India to create strict Border Controls not only with Pakistan but also with Nepal and Bangladesh to ensure that the Taliban controlled Pakistani as well as Bangladeshi Terrorists - both of the Armed Forces Ilk as well as the Religious Fundamentalist Ilk – are denied entry into India.

Let us not blame the Morons and Dhoti-Wetting Ilk but put up constructive views as to what is necessary for India “Not to be Talibanized" as well as protect its National Integrity.

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[Guest]

If you check video from Pakistan on youtube, you will be shocked to see immoral Pakistan society. I am not sure U-turn is possible at this stage, I can see civil war.
Regarding India, Muslim society is Talibainzed, infact Deobandi are from India and protected by current Indian Government. Don't forget, in 2004 Sonia shared stage with Madani and agreed with 15 point agenda. Current Indian government had fulfilled all 15 points. In India, Taliban will get free rule, so don't worry about them in India. In Pakistan they may have tough fight.
So blaming Moron Singh is very important, closing eyes won't solve problem either. If I lost my gold ring inside my house, don't you think its waste of my time if I go to other town to search my lost ring. Taliban had state support in India where appointed PM of India lose his sleep when Taliban staff is in trouble.

[Husky]

http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/02/how...ohammed-is.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>how appropriate that 'sufi' mohammed is the 'spiritual leader' of the taliban in swat</b>
feb 20th, 2009

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/200...slamic_rule.php
(<b>Swat's sufi leader of taliban hates democracy, calls for global islamic rule</b>)

there is a pseudo-secular fantasy that 'sufis' are somehow superior mohammedans. according to the pseudo-secular propaganda industry, all the good stuff in hindu spirituality is in ahem... mystical sufism. so see, mohammedans have nothing to learn from hindus. besides, the absolute height of civilization in 'south asia' is the sufi qawwali. quick, nandita das, make a movie on this fellow!

in reality, sufis were bloodthirsty monsters who forced the killings and conversions of hindus in kashmir centuries ago. and since they are not considered heretics by any mohammedan, they are exactly as ahem... mystical as the average mohammedan.

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Why it's bad news for India:

www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/02/sufi_mohammed_hates_democracy_and_calls_for_global_islamic_rule.php
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Sufi Mohammed 'hates democracy' and calls for global Islamic rule</b>
By Bill RoggioFebruary 18, 2009 9:14 PM
 
(Image) Sufi Mohammad.

<b>Sufi Mohammed, the leader of the pro-Taliban group behind the peace agreement between the government and the Taliban, has advocated Islamic rule throughout the world and </b><span style='color:red'>said his followers would work with the government to eliminate Indian intelligence agents operating in the region.</span>

The statements were made while Sufi was addressing a rally supporting his peace agreement in Swat, according to a report in an Urdu-language Pakistani newspaper. Sufi arrived in Swat yesterday after conducting a <b>"peace march"</b> from neighboring Dir.
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<b>‘‘We hate democracy," Sufi told the crowd of thousands of followers in Mingora. "We want the occupation of Islam in the entire world. Islam does not permit democracy or election.’’</b>
(Of course it doesn't. Take note, Teesta.)

Sufi originally made his anti-democracy comments to a foreign news outlet prior to the signing of the Malakand Accord. During the interview, he lauded the brutal Taliban government that ruled Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001.

“From the very beginning, I have viewed democracy as a system imposed on us by the infidels. Islam does not allow democracy or elections,” Sufi told Deutsche Presse-Agentur just days before the Malakand Accord was signed. “I believe the Taliban government formed a complete Islamic state, which was an ideal example for other Muslim countries."

Sufi also agreed to work with the government of the Northwest Frontier Province to "immediately take steps to clear the [NWFP’s] Malakand Division of RAW elements and criminals because the government has enough evidence of India’s involvement in the current lawlessness in Swat,’’ according to a Pakistani news report. RAW is the Research and Analysis Wing, the intelligence agency that operates outside of India.

Pakistani government officials and military officers occasionally blame India's intelligence service for the Taliban insurgency in the Northwest Frontier Province. But Pakistan's Inter Service Intelligence agency has backed various Taliban groups, including the Haqqani family in North Waziristan and Mullah Nazir in South Waziristan.

 
Sufi Mohammad as he was freed from a Pakistani prison in November 2007. Photo from Dawn.

Sufi Mohammed is the spiritual leader of the outlawed Movement for the Implementation of Mohammad's Sharia Law. He claimed to have eschewed violence after being released from prison in November 2007 as a condition of a similar failed peace agreement in Swat. Sufi led more than 10,000 Pakistanis into Afghanistan after the US invasion in 2001. Mullah Fazlullah, the radical anti-government cleric behind the insurgency and terror attacks in Swat, is his son-in-law.

Sufi and the Swat Taliban maintained very close links to the radical administration of the Lal Masjid, or Red Mosque, the pro-Taliban mosque in the heart of Islamabad whose followers enforced sharia and kidnapped policemen just one mile from the seat of government. The Pakistani military stormed the Lal Masjid in July 2007 after a several-month standoff. More than a hundred followers and more than a dozen soldiers were killed in the battle.

The Pakistani government agreed to its third peace agreement with the Swat Taliban after nearly two years of fighting. The agreement allows for the implementation of the sharia, or Islamic law, throughout the Malakand division, a region that encompasses nearly 1/3 of the Northwest Frontier Province and is made up of the districts of Malakand, Swat, Shangla, Buner, Dir, and Chitral. The agreement also calls for the end of military operations. The Taliban
have instituted a 10-day cease fire, while the military has ended offensive operations.

The agreement is viewed as a defeat for the Paksitani government as it has failed to dislodge the Taliban and ceded the writ of the government in the region. Past pacts with the Taliban have allowed the Taliban to consolidate control in the northwest and expand into neighboring regions.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<b>Pakistan may send water experts to India</b>

ISLAMABAD : Pakistan has decided to send its experts to visit the site of dams being constructed by India on River Indus in the Ladakh region and Islamabad would shortly submit this request to the Indian authorities.

The experts’ team, headed by Syed Jamaat Ali Shah, Commissioner of Pakistan Commission of Indus Water (PCIW), will during the visit assess for the first time as to whether the ongoing construction of the dams is as per the design allowed in the Indus Water Treaty, 1960, or not.

The decision came in a meeting held in Lahore on Saturday with Jamaat Ali Shah in the chair.

Officials from the General Headquarters (GHQ), Wapda, Punjab Irrigation Department, Pakistan Commission of Indus Water (PCIW) and Met office attended the meeting to discuss the impact of the said dams on Pakistan’s water and defence interests. The committee was convened in the wake of concerns expressed by the armed forces over the development.

The armed forces got alarmed when they came to know the said projects could play havoc with the Northern Areas, if the said dams get collapsed for any reason or malfunction.

A senior official, who was part of the meeting, told The News that the Pakistan Commission of Indus Water would asked the Indian Commission of Indus Water to arrange immediate visit, so that Pakistan’s experts could visit the site of the said dams.

When Jamaat Ali Shah was contacted to know what decision has been taken in the meeting, he plainly refused to divulge any decision.

However, the official said that in case India constructed the said dams, then Pakistan might face the damage it experienced in the case of the Baglihar project, as India in the project had attained the capacity to manoeuvre the flow of water through the gate-like structure on spillways.

In the meeting, the issue was raised as to why not so far the sites of the dams had been visited by the Pakistan Commission of Indus Water officials despite the fact that the construction work of the Nimoo Bazgo Hydro Power Project was in full swing and the excavation work for the powerhouse was 100 per cent completed and 48 per cent concreting for the dam up to the crest level had also been completed; the maximum construction work of the Dumkhar HE Project had also been completed. In 2006, the construction of the Chutak project started, which is to be completed in the next two years.

The official said a representative of the Punjab government submitted his written observations on the said projects.

In the meeting, it was also divulged that India planned to build more projects on River Indus to harness 2,060 MW hydropower.

“Pakistan experts’ visit may not be arranged immediately in the wake of the hard weather conditions in Ladakh, where the dams are being constructed,” the official said.

<b>He expressed the apprehension that India might even refuse to allow the Pakistani experts to visit the projects.</b>

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This Article – in part – confirms my apprehension of the Taliban taking over and controlling the Pakistani Army as per my above statement Posted Today, 22-02-2009, 12:23 AM

<b>Limited capabilities : The future of the armed forces</b>

<i>The Pakistan Army will be plagued by decreased professionalism and an ongoing dependency on US and Chinese intervention.</i>

IN the past year or so, different American think tanks and research organizations have been trying to evaluate the future of the Pakistan military, an organization that is critical in the war against terror. Globally, governments are keen to know and predict what kind of management and which ideology will shape the thinking and planning of the officer cadre of Pakistan’s armed forces. The questions asked from anyone who has done some work on Pakistan’s military relate to the future stars of the military and their social background. Such research, as indicated earlier, is linked with the concern that a nuclear-weapons equipped military must not go the route it had traversed under its former army chief, General Ziaul Haq. <b>There is also the understanding that a large number of junior and middle-ranking officers, as opposed to the higher ranks, have become ideologically conservative, even bordering on being sympathetic to the Talibaan.</b> But is this assessment correct? More important, what is the future of Pakistan’s armed forces in terms of the dominant ideology, capabilities, and political ambitions?

In terms of the organization’s dominant ideology, one popular argument is that the military remains the only stable secular institution in the country and that the Zia period denotes an anomaly which will probably not revisit the institution. The nine-year reign of former General Pervez Musharraf witnessed the cleaning up of religious extremist elements. However, it is incorrect to categorize the military as secular or Islamic. The religious or secular flavours are part of the larger national ideology defined by the military itself. There are times when even the most seemingly secular generals have partnered with the militants to fulfill the military’s strategic goals in pursuance of the national ideology. These strategic interests seem to have influenced the junior officers. However, the senior management is not likely to abandon their style, popularly known as strategic pragmatism. This goes hand in hand with the reality that the senior echelons are not likely to turn obviously fundamentalist à la General Zia as it does not favor the organisation’s partnership with the US, a country considered critical for the military and the country.

The relationship with the US will remain significant less for technological reasons and more for the larger interests of the organisation and political reasons. The access to quality training of the officer cadre in the US and exposure to western military concepts, including technology and financial resources, are reasons for the continued links between the American and Pakistani militaries. The link is also critical due to the Pakistan armed force’s increasing dependence on the US to fight the war on terror. The military has reduced capacity to fight insurgency operations, which increases its dependence on American intervention, especially to fight the war in the tribal areas. But this does not necessarily mean major weapon systems for which the military is increasingly looking at China and Europe. The Pakistan Air Force, for instance, will increasingly have lesser options and would increase its technological linkages with Beijing. <b>Given the shortcomings of Chinese weapons technology, this also means that while the Pakistan military would remain a medium-sized military power, it will face increasing constraints in beefing up its conventional capabilities, especially in qualitative terms.</b>

This pattern, nonetheless, is not common amongst all three services. The Pakistan Navy, which will continue to play an insignificant role in national strategic planning, will continue with its dependence on western equipment along with diversifying through procuring some Chinese technology. Problems of erroneous planning and corruption within the military are some of the reasons for the lack of efficient weapons procurement policy.

The more important factor is the mediocrity in planning and generalship, a problem that has been the military’s fate for very long. The lack of capacity in planning also emanates from the fact that the army, which is the largest service of the armed forces, allocates less time on professional work and more on power politics. <b>Thus the claim that the military is professional hardly means anything considering that successive generals have launched military misadventures to win wars and battles.</b>

Part of the problem of compromised professionalism lies in the military’s inability to structure military decision-making and the organisation at large. The current organisational structure does not respond well to integrating the conventional and the nuclear. One popular argument is that the organisational deficiencies exist because of the weak civilian control of the armed forces. Enhancing civilian control of the military is a pipedream which might not come true, primarily because the military has emerged as an autonomous organisation that jealously guards its capacity to remain a powerful player in the country. <b>In fact, it will not be an exaggeration to argue that, in Pakistan, the military is the state rather than being a parallel state as authors such as Mazhar Aziz have stated. It will continue to play a dominant role in politics, society and economy in the foreseeable future. Despite the re-introduction of democracy in February 2008, the chances of the military re-asserting itself in politics in the future remain high.</b>

The military’s continued involvement in politics has another downside as well – it would further erode professional management at the top. The service chief, especially from the army, is selected on political grounds. In any case, it is a rarity for the selection of service chiefs, especially the army chief, to be based on the principle of seniority. Such problems influence the military’s performance and professionalism in the long run. <b>So, despite the claims by the present army chief, General Ashfaq Kiyani, that the military can face any challenges, the organisation’s capability to counter internal and external threats remains limited.</b>

<i>Dr.Ayesha Siddiqa is an independent security analyst and strategic affairs columnist for Dawn. She obtained her Doctorate from King's College London in 1996 and held the 'Pakistan Scholar' chair at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars from 2004-2005. Her most recent book, Military Inc. was released in 2007 and is considered one of the foremost academic works on the Pakistani defense establishment.</i>

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