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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->No more promises, go after militants : Clinton asks Pak<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Don't trust her. She change statements based on location. She will follow her husband's strategy. Current adminsitration foreign policy is Carter version 2.0.
Pakistan will get more money.
<b>Militants will not be allowed to dictate terms: Gen Kayani</b>
By Iftikhar A. Khan
Friday, 24 Apr, 2009 | 06:44 PM PST |

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/...gen-kayani--04
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, on Friday <b>rejected the notion that the peace deal through Sufi Mohammed amounted to giving any 'concession' to the militants, and declared that the army has the resolve to take on the militants</b>. He said that 'victory against terror and militancy will be achieved at all cost'.

Speaking at a meeting of top military commanders, at the General Headquarters in Rawalpindi, the army chief acknowledged that doubts were being voiced about the intent and capability of the army to defeat the militants. However, his view was that the army 'never has and never will hesitate to sacrifice, whatever it may take, to ensure safety and wellbeing of the people and<b> country’s territorial integrity'</b>.

It was the most direct statement by General Kayani, or any other security or civilian official, about the prevailing situation and the manner in which it needs to be tackled. The statement came following a series of reports from <b>Swat’s adjoining district Buner, and later Shangla, of the Taliban march in the area, with clear signs of the armed militants trying to spread their influence under the cover of the peace deal.</b>
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preparation for coup.
<!--QuoteBegin-Naresh+Apr 23 2009, 10:24 PM-->QUOTE(Naresh @ Apr 23 2009, 10:24 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Taliban cannot cross Margala hills : DC</b>

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Since the taliban and the paki army are in cahoots, the reporter is right - they will not cross the Margala hills. That would bring the wrath of Americans down on them. Pakis would have to be relieved of their nukes. The paki generals would not want this.

I personally feel this is just a tactic the paki army is employing to get the Americans to deliver on aid and to pressure India into providing concessions.
Yesterday, Karl Rowe said, in case Taliban take over Pakistan, US had plans to extract Nukes from Pakistan.
This noise in US media regarding Pakistan is losing, I think they are scaring Congress so that they can get funds for Pakistan without condition. You will see lot of bribe given to Paki generals to deliver Osama.
As we know, Pakis will never deliver minting machine.

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<b>Where is the Pakistan army?</b>

<i>Dr Farrukh Saleem</i>

Five thousand square kilometres of Swat are now under Taliban control -- de jure. Chitral (14,850 sq km), Dir (5,280 sq km), Shangla (1,586 sq km), Hangu (1,097 sq km), Lakki Marwat (3,164 sq km), Bannu (1,227 sq km), Tank (1,679 sq km), Khyber, Kurram, Bajaur, Mohmand, Orkzai, North Waziristan and South Waziristan are all under Taliban control -- de facto. That's a total of 56,103 square kilometres of Pakistan under Taliban control -- de facto.

Six thousand square kilometres of Dera Ismail Khan are being contested. Also under 'contested control' are Karak (3,372 sq km), Kohat (2,545 sq km), Peshawar (2,257 sq km), Charsada (996 sq km) and Mardan (1,632 sq km). That's a total of 16,802 square kilometres of Pakistan under 'contested control' -- de facto. Seven thousand five hundred square kilometres of Kohistan are under 'Taliban influence'. Additionally, Mansehra (4,579 sq km), Battagram (1,301 sq km), Swabi (1,543 sq km) and Nowshera (1,748 sq km) are all under 'Taliban influence'. That's a total of 16,663 square kilometres of Pakistan under 'Taliban influence' -- de facto. <b>All put together, 89,568 square kilometres of Pakistani territory is either under complete 'Taliban control', 'contested control' or 'Taliban influenced'; that's 11 per cent of Pakistan's landmass.</b>

<b>Where is Pakistan army?</b> To be fair, under our constitution law enforcement -- and establishing the writ of the state -- is the responsibility of our civil administration. Yes, under Article 245, the federal government can call in the army "in aid of civil power" but the overall strategy has to be devised by our politicians. Counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency are very specialised operations. Textbook counter-insurgency has three elements: Clear-Hold-Build (C-H-B). The army may be required to 'clear' insurgents from a particular area but every army operation creates a vacuum that has to be filled by a civil-political administration. After the 'clearing' of insurgents it has to be the politicians to 'hold' that area and then fulfil the social contract -- dispensation of justice, municipal services etc -- between the ruled and the rulers (classic counter-insurgency is DDD, disrupt, dismantle and defeat).

<b>At least 11 per cent of Pakistan's landmass has been ceded to the Taliban. Where is the Pakistan army?</b> I Corps is in Mangla, II Corps is in Multan, IV Corps in Lahore, V Corps in Karachi, X Corps in Rawalpindi, XI Corps in Peshawar, XII Corps in Quetta, XXX Corps in Gujranwala and XXXI is in Bahawalpur, In effect, some 80 to 90 per cent of our military assets are deployed to counter the threat from India. The Pakistan army looks at the Indian army and sees its inventory of 6,384 tanks as a threat. The Pakistan army looks at the Indian air force and sees its inventory of 672 combat aircraft as a threat. The Pakistan army looks at the Indian army and notices that six out of 13 Indian corps are strike corps. The Pakistan army looks at the Indian army and finds that 15, 9, 16, 14, 11, 10 and 2 Corps are all pointing their guns at Pakistan. The Pakistan army looks at the Indian army and discovers that the 3rd Armoured Division, 4 RAPID Division and 2nd Armoured Brigade have been deployed to cut Pakistan into two halves. <b>The Pakistan army looks at the Taliban and sees no Arjun Main Battle Tanks (MBT), no armoured fighting vehicles, no 155 mm Bofors howitzers, no Akash surface-to-air missiles, no BrahMos land attack cruise missiles, no Agni Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles, no Sukhoi Su-30 MKI air superiority strike fighters, no Jaguar attack aircraft, no MiG-27 ground-attack aircraft, no Shakti thermonuclear devices, no Shakti-II 12 kiloton fission devices and no heavy artillery.</b>

Pakistan is on fire and our fire-fighters are on the Pakistan-India border. To be certain, none of those Indian tanks can cross the Himalayas into China so Arjun MBTs must all be for Pakistan. Thus, the Pakistan-India border has to be defended. Then, what about this hyperactive insurgency that is snatching away Pakistani physical terrain -- bit by bit? There certainly is no easy way out. America wants the Pakistan army to neutralise threats to the mainland US. The Pakistan army, on the other hand, has to defend the Pakistan-India border. The need of the hour, therefore, is for all organs of the Pakistani state -- the executive, the legislature, the judiciary and the military -- to put their heads together and devise a National Counter-Insurgency Policy.

<i>The writer is the executive director of the Centre for Research and Security Studies (CRSS). Email :</i> farrukh15@hotmail.com

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<b>FC man martyred, several militants killed in Dir operation</b>

ISLAMABAD : The Frontier Corps has launched a new operation against militants in Dir on the request of provincial government and people, ISPR said on Sunday.

Security forces are targeting suspected militants’ hideouts situated in Lal Qila and Islam Pura areas of Lower Dir.

Earlier, a fierce gunbattle erupted between militants and security forces, killing a large number of militants, including a key commander.

While one security personnel was also martyred in the operation.

The ISPR said that gunbattle was underway at Lal Qila area.

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<b>Alarmism does not help</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It is impossible to do away with the Taliban now just because we are worried that they may soon encroach into our own spaces. <b>It is necessary instead to recognise that the Taliban's accession to the position they occupy today is a logical culmination of the Pakistani state project as it has been conceived and executed since at least 1978.</b> As I have repeated ad nauseam on these pages, the state ideology is projected through the educational curriculum, the popular media, the systematic dismantling of organic bases of politics, and many other, structural, factors.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<b>'300 Taliban suicide bombers on way to Islamabad,' claim Pakistan officials</b>

<b>300 suicide bombers are on their way to Islamabad, Pakistan and plan to attack the capital and certain local officials of foreign embassies there, Interior Ministry sources said.

The suicide bombers also plan to attack Rawalpindi and Lahore and are being led by five top Taliban commanders who are close aides of Baitullah Mehsud, the leader of the country's unified Taliban movement, according to the sources.

The commanders have left North Waziristan for Islamabad and would supervise the terrorist operations planned by Baitullah Mehsud in these cities, the sources added.</b>

Pakistan's Interior Secretary Syed Kamal Shah confirmed the report, saying that security measures had been adopted to thwart such threats. The law enforcement agencies have planned counter strategies to deal with the situation, the secretary said.

Kamal Shah added that the Northern Areas Scouts (NAS), a paramilitary force under the Army command, would reach Islamabad within a couple of days to help the civil administration in maintaining peace in the capital.

The sources said an intelligence agency provided information to the government regarding the Taliban activities, alleging that simultaneous suicide bombings followed by sniper attacks could occur.

The five Taliban commanders are identified by intelligence agencies as Shikaari, Inayatullah, Walid, Mujahid and Abdali, Interior Ministry sources said. They said all the terrorist commanders were close aides of Baitullah Mehsud.

<b>A security officer said the Taliban commanders had left North Waziristan on April 11 for Islamabad, along with an explosives-laden Toyota Corolla. But the law-enforcement agencies were totally unaware whether they had reached their destination or postponed their operation, the officer said.</b>

Quoting the intelligence report, the source said about 300 terrorist shooters and suicide bombers would reach Islamabad, along with the five commanders.

To counter serious threats to Islamabad, the federal government has called troops of the NAS to assist the civil administration to protect prominent personalities as well as sensitive installations of the capital city, the Interior Ministry sources said.

'At least 20 companies of the NAS are required to deal with the possible untoward situation,' the source said.

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<b>Over 300 textile units shut down in past two years</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ISLAMABAD : Thanks to higher mark-up rates, energy crises, the worsening law and order situation and the global recession, <b>over 300 textile units have been closed down during the last two years,</b> eliminating seven hundreds thousand of jobs in the process.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<b>Taliban threaten to turn Pakistan into 'Afghanistan'</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->PESHAWAR (AFP) - The main Taliban spokesman and a representative of Maulana Sufi Muhammad, the pro-Taliban cleric who signed the February agreement with the government, on Sunday slammed the operation as a “violation” of the deal <b>and threatened to turn the country into another “Afghanistan”.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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NRC Handelsblad, The Netherlands
<b>Does Our Presence in Afghanistan Strengthen Pakistan’s Instability?</b>
By Staff
Translated By Dorian de Wind
25 April 2009
Edited by Patricia Simoni
The Netherlands - NRC Handelsblad - Original Article (Dutch)

United States President Barack Obama recently labeled Pakistan as the most dangerous place in the world. Each day there are reports of attacks, tribal heads who are murdered, schools that go up in flames. The police and army do nothing. And the population? They hate the army, says journalist Antoinette de Jong today in the NRC Handelsblad.

The most important causes for this hatred are the attacks on tribal areas and silent approval from the U.S. of missile launches from unmanned aircraft. That hatred against the army, but also against the corrupt government and against the foreign powers seen as causing the war in neighboring Afghanistan, has found a breeding ground - perhaps not in everyone - but certainly among all social classes in Pakistan, according to De Jong.

Already, last summer, Pakistani students were talking about revolution: They referred to Marx, and to France in 1789. Nevertheless, there will not be a Western-style revolution, writes De Jong. No, the platform for social change is being offered by the Taliban.

"That the Taliban were created, if not nurtured in Pakistan, has been clear from the onset," according to De Jong. And they are advancing. The biggest terrorist attacks since 9/11, such as those in Madrid and London, had links with the country.

Policy makers have to consider the unthinkable, says De Jong. "Because of the presence of nuclear weapons, the U.S. and India cannot remain on the sidelines in the case of an implosion of the Pakistani state. No one can predict how such a scenario will develop. A split in the army? The balkanization of Pakistan? We don't know."

It is clear that insurgency in Afghanistan will continue, as long as there is no end to support for the Taliban in Pakistan, according to De Jong.

What do you think? Does our presence in Afghanistan strengthen the instability of Pakistan? How can we break the Taliban's power, and therewith, Al-Qaeda's power?
Pakistan army chief hits back at US

By Farhan Bokhari in Islamabad and James Lamont in New,Delhi

Published: April 27 2009 03:00 | Last updated: April 27 2009 03:00

Pakistan's army chief has reacted angrily to US dismay that his forces have not acted to repel a Taliban insurgency advancing on Islamabad, the country's capital and home to some of its nuclear assets.

In a rare statement, Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani condemned at the weekend the "pronouncements by outside powers raising doubts on the future of the country", and insisted his troops were ready for battle against any threat. Pakistani security forces yesterday launched an offensive to stop the Taliban's advance in the north-west of the country.

Gen Kiyani's statement was interpreted as a sharp rebuff to comments by Hillary Clinton, US secretary of state, who last week said Pakistan's government was in danger of abdicating responsibility to its people in the face of the Taliban advance. She had expressed bewilderment that one of the world's largest armies appeared unable to confront dozens of militants.

The army, which has received about $1bn (€770m, £685m) a year from the US since 2001, is sensitive to the widely held view in Pakistan that it is fighting America's war against al-Qaeda along the border with Afghanistan. But it also faces criticism that it is unwilling to sever longstanding ties with militant groups that it once sponsored in insurgencies in Afghanistan and India, even as these turn against Pakistan.

The army "never has and never will hesitate to sacrifice, whatever it may take, to ensure [the] safety and well-being of the people of Pakistan and the country's territorial integrity", the general said. "A country of 170m resilient people under a democratic dispensation, strongly supported by the army, is capable of handling any crisis that it may confront."

International pressure has mounted for Pakistan to step up its fight against militants who have taken charge of the Swat valley, where they have vowed to lay the foundation of an Islamic state. Earlier this month Asif Ali Zardari, Pakistan's president, signed a law permitting the introduction of sharia, or Islamic law, in Swat in return for Taliban militants laying down their arms.

Rather than moving towards conciliation, the Taliban have shown signs of expanding their influence outside Swat into nearby regions. Last week a Taliban militant alarmed Pakistan's allies when he said publicly that Osama bin Laden, al-Qaeda's leader, would be welcomed as a "brother" in Taliban-controlled territory.

"[Gen Kiyani's] remarks tell us that the army, under pressure from the Americans, is drawing a red line against the Taliban," said one senior western diplomat.

The army yesterday clashed with Taliban militants in Dir, a remote northern region near Swat. A government official said the preparations in Dir were a precursor to a military campaign against Taliban militants in the area unless they turned back voluntarily.

On Friday the government claimed that Taliban militants had vacated Buner, south of Swat, after occupying it a day earlier.

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Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2009
<b>Taliban kidnap over 50 Pakistani securitymen</b>
or they surrendered
Nightwatch for 4/28/09 comments:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Comment: <b>Pakistan is in the news and the prophets of doom are legion. The state is not failing, but it is suffering from some decisions that have backfired.</b> Chief of Army Staff General Kayani was among those who supported the cession of national authority to the militants and imams in Swat, as a tradeoff for peace and disarmament.  When the militants ignored the terms of the deal, and in response to outside pressure, the government has been roused to take some action, primarily to enforce the original deal, thus far.

General Kayani’s warning to the militants on 25 April about extending their “writ” was only about militant expansion into adjacent districts, not about the cession of authority to Swat. There are no big operations for Swat District at this time evident in press reporting.

<b>The start of the Army and Frontier Corps operations supported by air strikes does not signify much of an offensive.</b> For one thing, the preparation time appears to be far too brief to prepare the battlefield with competent intelligence.  <b>The purpose, literally, is to force the militants back on the government approved reservation in Swat District.</b>

<b>The government in Islamabad is not in danger of falling to a militant uprising, not for a few years at least.  Using terror and the preachings of fundamentalist imams, the militants have been successful in forcing the government to negotiate over local jurisdiction. This process is likely to continue. </b>

The effect of the security operations will be to channel the Islamists to put more pressure on a weak National Assembly to pass more bills authorizing the enforcement of Sharia, and not take the law into their own hands. <b>The result will be the same:  the spread of strict Quranic observances enforced by Islamist enforcers, instead of the national or local police. The difference is the spread will be under color of law.</b> That is the <b>primary implication of Kayani’s warning because he has only promised to act so as to back law enforcement, not undo the acts of the parliament.</b>

In instability analysis, the government writ is always weakest in the peripheral areas, in the border marches and among the politically disenfranchised. The Swat District regulations are proof of both wings of this precept.

Second, a weak government always tries to buy time by ceding authority that it has a constitutional right to enforce, provided it has forces it can rely on.  This is always an expedient to gain time to marshal resources that will enable the government to rescind the cession later. Pakistan is also proof of this precept.

<b>The emergence of instability directed towards Islamabad in the Pashtun border agencies is not new, but it is a bit more intense. The big difference is in the government and military response to that unrest, which has been unprecedented even for past weak civilian governments. It raises serious but not fatal questions.</b>

The normal response to a de facto autonomy declaration by a district would be to use the Army, not just the paramilitary police forces, to preserve the integrity of the state by force, not to make de facto secession de jure.  The government does not seem to have that option.

<b>The Army under Kayani apparently declined to participate two months back because of the likelihood of high losses and its cultural disinclination to shoot Pakistani citizens, according to press reporting.</b> Kayani appears to be a good soldier. <b>About the only justification for Army timidity in the face of a local insurrection is the likelihood that the Army itself would fracture during such operations.</b>

The Army position left the elected leaders with no choice but to try to buy time by creating a temporary power sharing arrangement that would stabilize local law and order conditions in Swat until the government could assess its options and the loyalty of its security forces. That is where we are today.

<b>Today’s operations are mostly a show of force, a demonstration.</b> Pakistan has no joint doctrine; the air attacks are isolated pin pricks that annoy more than suppress the insurgents; there has not been enough time for adequate battlefield preparation.  Kayani has not had enough time to rebuild the Army.

Inspector General of the Frontier Corps Major General Khan should get a hero’s medal for taking on the task of upholding the honor and rights of the federal government using his rag tag paramilitary forces.

<b>In sum, the government is a mess, but it is not collapsing or in danger of an Islamist overthrow.</b> <b>Pakistan</b> is not a failed state but it <b>is experiencing another test of its fundamental nature.</b> The problem with international press coverage is that it conflates the darkest and bleakest future for Pakistan with the present. The worst case has not yet arrived, by a long shot.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Violence explodes across North Karachi </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->KARACHI: Private TV channels reported as many as 24 people have been killed in incidents across the city, and mobs have gathered in various areas, setting close to a dozen vehicles on fire. Public transport has become scarce, and the situation remains tense.....................<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<b>Six dead in suspected US drone attack </b>
The missile strike took place in the South Waziristan tribal region, two foreigners were among the dead.

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BHUTTO WAS A THORN IN THE SIDE OF THE USA: The youngest Foreign Minister of Pakistan, the mercurial Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was building Pakistani bridges with China. He wanted to close the US base in Pakistan, which he succeed in doing. President Johnson told President Ayub Khan “Bhutto must Go! Bhutto must Go!”. Soon thereafter Bhutto resigned a created the Pakistan Peoples Party.Kissinger Threatened Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto

We will destabilize your government and make a horrible example of you”

Pakistan is used to threats from US Politicians. That threat and his judicial murder has repercussions today on Pakistan US relations

The favourite slogan, the one that caught on during the May 1968 fête in France was “it is forbidden to forbid”. There is nothing to forbid the youth of Europe to reject both communism and capitalism. What will they build in the absence of both systems? Will their concept of building a new structure with a new philosophy mean willful self-destruction? This sounds insane but the youth of Europe is not insane. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto A letter from the Death Cell (2007)] p. 15 p. 20

THE TIME HAS COME:

That time hasn’t come, has it?

KARACHI (January 29 2008): The following is an unconfirmed and unverified account of a person who wishes to remain anonymous. The account is the narration of experiences of a senior foreign ministry official who, according to the writer, was privy to ZA Bhutto-Henry Kissinger talk and later witness to General Ziaul Haq’s outburst of anger against US in front of its ambassador.

The question of veracity of this write-up remains unanswered and the identity and whereabouts of the official and the author of this story are yet to be ascertained, it makes for interesting reading, nevertheless:

It was the year 1976 and the US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger was on a visit to Pakistan, to meet the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Zulkiqar Ali Bhutto. The Americans wanted Pakistan to give up their nuclear project, and Henry Kissinger was on a mission to deliver the US President’s message to Bhutto. Mr Bhutto listened to Kissinger very patiently and then addressed him, “you are my friend, please advise me what I should do.” Kissinger smiled a bit, and said softly, “Mr Prime Minister! In the game of diplomacy and power, nobody is any one else’s friend. I am only a messenger at this time. You should consult one of your own advisors”. Bhutto smiled and replied in a beautiful tone, “I still consider you my friend despite that and so request your advice.” Henry Kissinger laughed heartily, and looking at Bhutto, said, “you are really a chess master.” Bhutto stared at him silently.

Kissinger waited for a while, and said in a cultured tone, “Basically I have come not to advise, but to warn you. USA has numerous reservations about Pakistan’s atomic programme; therefore you have no way out, except agreeing to what I say”. Bhutto smiled and asked, “suppose I refuse, then what?” Henry Kissinger became dead serious.

He locked his eyes on Bhutto’s and spewed out deliberately, “Then we will make a horrible example of you!” Bhutto’s face flushed. He stood up, extended his hand towards Kissinger and said, “Pakistan can live without the US President. Now your people will have to find some other ally in this region.” Bhutto then turned and went out.

This story was related to me by a senior foreign ministry official, who became quite friendly with General Ziaul Haq after Bhutto, and gradually rose in rank to join the General’s elite close circle. In 1987 Russian forces started evacuating Afghanistan, and President General Ziaul Haq was left isolated all of a sudden.

It was a great blow to his ego, and he started berating the CIA officers and US Embassy officials present in Pakistan at the time. Once, during that time, the President accidentally came face to face with the US Ambassador in a function, and in the presence of dozens of other people, admonished the Ambassador.

The General addressing him directly told him, “You people think that we cannot live without your help. Remember that Pakistan is a strong and powerful country, and if we can make Russia run away from Afghanistan, then we can also cope with USA.” The US Ambassador kept silent. General Ziaul Haq caught the ambassador by the chin, and pushing his face up, said, “Tell your government that you have no option except our friendship.”

The Ambassador shook his head left and right. The Foreign Ministry official who narrated the story, was personally present at that function, and was an eye-witness to this incident.

This officer went to see General Ziaul Haq the next day, and pleaded with him very humbly, “Sir, ten or eleven years ago I was working with Mr Bhutto. Sir, I saw and heard the dialogue between Henry Kissinger and Mr Zulfikar Ali Bhutto myself personally. Mr Bhutto looked very confident after this conversation, but Kissinger looked grim. Mr Bhutto had later started challenging the USA even in his public utterances.

However, Sir, a time came when you dethroned Bhutto and delivered him to the Judiciary. The courts sentenced him to gallows, and thus Mr Bhutto really became an example of retribution for the world!” General Ziaul Haq looked at him furiously. The official was flustered, but continued, “Sir, when you were berating the US Ambassador publicly, to me he looked very much like Henry Kissinger at the time.

Sir, based on my experience, I know that a time comes during friendship with America, when it becomes difficult for US friends to maintain that friendship, and the amity pinches like a thorn in the shoe”. The general kept quite. The official persisted “Sir, during our return in the car I had tried to advise Mr Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto also, but he stopped the car and had asked me to get out. Mr Bhutto believed that he knew the Americans better than the Americans knew themselves.

Sir, I know that you also will not be pleased with what I have to say, and perhaps this time also I may meet the same treatment, but Sir, in this delicate hour, I consider it my duty to advise you. Please don’t get entangled with the Americans at this time.

They are a generation of ‘disposable’ culture. In their view, faithfulness and constancy are meaningless words.” General Ziaul Haq lost his patience. He stood up and extended his hand (in dismissal). That official also rose and immediately left the General’s office, and for a long time thereafter, did not re-enter that room.

I met that officer countless times, and whenever the talk turned to Mr Bhutto and General Ziaul Haq, he would say, “Both of my bosses did not accept my advise; therefore both of them met a tragic end.” I asked him what was the reason for that. He had this stock reply: “This is American nature. In reality, they cannot maintain companionship with any one for a long time. Only if you have a love/hate relationship with the US, you can keep their company for a long period.

Like Europeans, Australians and Latin Americans, you should listen to them occasionally, and defy them some other time, then you will have good time. We can also give here an example of Japan and China. Both these countries are friends and foes at the same time. They trade with the USA, but also confront them, so Americans have no issue with them.

On the contrary, we are always obedient to the US and go out of our way in our love for USA, to the extent of altering our own constitution and laws even. After that, we start getting demands from USA to “do more”, and then a time comes when it becomes impossible for Pakistan’s authorities to accept American demands.

When a Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto or a General Ziaul Haq explains to the Americans his legal or constitutional constraints, they do not believe him. Americans think that every thing is ‘possible’ in Pakistan, and that their “friend” is now deceiving them.

Therefore, the Americans change their attitude, after which the Pakistani ruler reminds them of all the services rendered by Pakistan to the USA. He recalls, with big gusto, all his acts of good faith performed in the service of the USA but the Americans shrug their shoulders and reply, “In return we had given you the opportunity to govern Pakistan.”

Answering them the Pakistani ruler starts to threaten the US government, and then, whether it is Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto or General Ziaul Haq, Both of them meet a dreadful, exemplary end.” The official then became silent.

For the last two days, I am sensing changes in President Musharraf and US relations. President Pervez Musharraf granted an interview on January 11 to the Singapore daily “Straits Times’, and in that interview challenged America, “If US forces intruded into our tribal territory, we will deem it as an invasion of Pakistan, which will be an affront to our sovereignty, and I challenge USA to dare come to our hills.

They will rue the day.” The President also gave an interview to the French daily, ‘Figaro’, and in that interview also he announced “if Americans do not help us in the war against terror, then they should search for some other ally for themselves”.

I don’t know why, ever since I read reports of both these interviews of the President, I keep remembering that old diplomat, and I think again and again, that God forbid, if the time has not come once again in Pak-American relations who Condi comes to Pakistan and sitting in our Chamber of authority announces, “you have no other option”.

My spirit shivers when I think of this.

Translated by Rais Ahmad Khan from Urdu into English.

Copyright Business Recorder, 2008
BHUTTO’S PHILOSPHY WAS FOR PAKISTAN: Bhutto was “Left leaning” and a Socialist. President Johnson wanted President Ayub Khan to fire Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. Bhutto launced a movement and forced Ayub Khan to resign. disappointed with the Americans after 1965, President Ayub Khan wrote a book called “Friends Not Masters” for America. Bhutto wrote a book called “Myth of Independence” in which he wanted to eliminate American influences on Pakistan.After 1971 Bhutto was elected Prime Minister and started Pakistan’s nuclear program.

“We badly need to gather our thoughts and clear our minds. We need a political ceasefire without conceding ideological territory.We need a ceasefire to bury dead thoughts and to overcome fatigue. The modus vivendi has to be honourable and above board. Both sides have lost or, should I say, neither side can win. During the ceasefire a combination of existing forces might create a new order or a new equation between existing forces. Whatever the formula, it cannot be evolved on the battlefield of the old or new cold wars. The new international order has to emerge through the demands of a Third World summit conference. The answer to the North-South conflict, which is more serious than the East-West conflict, has to be found honestly and with unimpeachable integrity. Genuine disarmament will not come on its own or by platitudes at special sessions of the United Nations on disarmament, although, I was among the first to propose such a conference eighteen years ago. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto A letter from the Death Cell (2007)] p. 15 p. 28

KISSINGER THREATENED BHUTTO: In May 1974 India exploded a Nuclear device which it called “peaceful”. Following India’s explosion, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto pledged to press ahead with Pakistan’s nuclear program.

“We will eat grass… “Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto’s Referring to financing the Pakistani Nuclear program.

The US pressured him not to build a bomb. However ZAB he did not bend. He stood his ground in the fact of tremendous Americans pressure. In 1976 he was threatened by Henry Kissinger with “horrible” consequences for pursuing a nuclear program. (Kissinger’s exact words: “We will destabilize your government and l make a horrible example out of you.” Within six months there were massive riots in Pakistan and Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was removed from office and then hanged by General Zia ul Haq, a General supported by the USA for more than a decade.

“But the croupier was already paid off and the dice was fixed!”I don’t believe in conspiracy theories in general, but the similarities in the staging of riots in Chile (where the CIA allegedly helped overthrow President Salvadore Allande) and in Pakistan are just too close.” he said. Ramsey Clark

“Bhutto’s execution could set off the single most dramatic change in world power alignment since World War II.”

“If anyone in the Kremlin has dreams of power, he said, “the road to the Persian Sea has to be a golden road.”Unless the United States makes a stand…., Clark warned, the eighth most populous nation in the world could be carved up….by Soviet Union….”"As Americans, we must ask ourselves this: Is it possible that a rational military leader under the circumstances in Pakistan could have overthrown a constitutional government, without at least the tacit approval of the United States?”Ramsey Clark wrote ” Bhutto was removed from power in Pakistan by force on the 5th of July, after the usual party on the 4th at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, with U.S. approval, if not more, by General Zia al-Haq. Bhutto was falsely accused and brutalized for months during proceedings that corrupted the judiciary of Pakistan before being murdered, then hanged. That Bhutto had run for president of the student body at University of California in Berkeley and helped arrange the opportunity for Nixon to visit China did not help him when he defied the U.S. (CovertAction Quarterly magazine, Fall 1998) Ramsey Clark”By 10:30, according to the official news release, Mr Bhutto’s body had been flown to his ancestral village of Ghari Khuda Baksh, near his hometown of Larkana in Sindh Province, and buried in the family cemetery with only a few relatives and friends present. They included his first wife, Shirin Amir.”The way they did it,” said a foreigner who follows Pakistani politics, “is going to grow into a legend that will some day backfire.” (New York Times, Apr 5, 1979)

KISSINGER’S VEILED THREAT TO BENAZIR BHUTTO

…..After dinner, Kissinger approached Ali Bhutto and told him, “Mr. Prime Minister, your daughter is even more intimidating [frightening] than you are.

The USA supported the coup leader General Zia against the elected Prime Minister of Pakistan Z.A. Bhutto. Z.A. Bhutto was a victim of judicial murder.

“in Western estimation it is preferable to be a communist leader of a communist state, than to be a non-communist leader of a non-communist state having friendly relations with communist states. The anomaly does not cease here. It is even more dangerous to be pro-West. One disagreement in defence of a national cause, and out goes that civilian leader by a coup d’etat. He gets replaced by a tin-pot military dictator who would not dare to disagree about anything, including the vital national interests of his country Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto A letter from the Death Cell (2007)p. 69

EARLIER CIA INTRIGUES IN PAKISTAN-CIRCA 1950: The same thing had happened in 1958 when General Ayub eventually replaced the elected Prime Minister who was assissinated-Liaqat Ali Khan. The US supported General Ayub Khan for a decade. Paksitan lives in a tough neigborhood! The USSR also threatened the existance of Pakistan twice, once during the cold war (60s) when they discovered that the American spyplanes (U2s) used to take off from Badabare Airforce base near Peshawar Pakistan. The 2nd threat was during the USSR-Afghan war (80s) when Pakistan with the help of 52 other countries was helping the Afghan Freedom fighters. Pakistan survived.

“A military junta is the herald of munism. The failure to realize this axiomatic fact is the cause of the confusion in Africa, Asia and Latin America. Military rule turns the people totally and irrevocably against the bemedalled generals and their patrons. Where else can the people turn? If freedom, democracy and the rights of man are to be put on the counter to see whether copper and coffee is to cost ten cents more or ten cents less and bargained away with so little consideration, then freedom is a very cheap commodity and the rights of man are not worth a nickel.” Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto A letter from the Death Cell (2007)p.

SELECTIVE AMNESIA ABOUT THREATS TO PAKISTAN: Many now have selective amnesia and complain about the lack of democracy in Pakistan. It is amazing that the same Henry Kissinger who threatened Benazir’s Bhutto’s father now supports Benazir Bhutto and the rule of democracy. Just goes to show that there is no commitment to democracy, only to personalities and interests.

“Pakistan was once called the most allied ally of the United States. We are now the most non-allied.”Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto (As quoted in The New York Times(6 July 1973)

“It is generally believed that the US wanted Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto to be removed from the political scene of Pakistan mainly on two accounts. First, for the nuclear policy that he framed and tried to relentlessly pursue and secondly, from apprehensions that ZAB was influencing the countries. He posed a serious challenge to the US interests in the region. “Tally-ho. Kill Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, ” yelled the self-proclaimed policemen of the world. During August 1976, Amercian Secretary of States, Dr. Henry Kissinger had warned Bhutto, “We will make a horrible example of you,” adding menacingly, “When the railroad is coming, you get out of the way.” The American had successfully cultivated a number of well-placed bureaucrats, PPP stalwarts and ministers who wittingly or inadvertently served as the US agents of influence. American diplomats and CIA operators not only got most of the ‘inside’ information from these ‘gentlemen’ but also utilized their good offices to ‘convey’ whatever they wanted to feed or plant.

Some officers from USMAAG had also made meaningful ingresses in the
General Headquarters and not only gathered the thinking in the Services Headquarters but would also drop a ‘suggestion’ here and there. Some of the US Diplomats had established direct contacts with a number of PNA leaders whom they continued to aid, support and give day-to-day line of action. A number of US diplomats were not only actively involved but also directed the operations against Bhutto. Jan M. Gibney, Political Officer, US Consulate General, Lahore, duly assisted by a couple of Pakistanis, was extremely active and would frequently visit a number of Politicians Maulana Maudoodi of Jamat-e-Islami and Maulan Obaidullah Anwar, Jamiat-e-Ulmai-Islam of Sheranwala Gate, Lahore. Apart from holding meetings, a wireless network had been established between the USIS-US Consulate General - Maulana Maudoodi’s residence. It was Gibney who had telephoned and conveyed to Howard B. Schaffer, Chief of Political Affairs, US Embassy, Islamabad, that notorious sentence, “The party is over. Merchandise has gone.” The US had also released PL-480 funds. Over night some Jamat-e-Islami workers were seen with pockets full of money and spending lavishly. A number of businessmen, particularly those, who had suffered due to ZAB’s economic and industrial policies, had also been prompted to contribute towards the PNA funds. As there were no party accounts being maintained as such, the contributions were received personally by some of the leaders. Justice (Retd.) Kaikaus and Rafiq Ahmed Bajwa are among those who are alleged to have made millions.” PROFILES OF INTELLIGENCE by Brigadier Syed A. I. Tirmazi, SI (M).

IN THE LIGHT OF THE KISSINGER THREAT, BENAZIR LEARNED THE WRONG LESSONS FROM THE DEATH OF HER FATHER:

Benazir Bhutto thought that by getting permisison from the USA and giving them outlandish assurances about Pakistan’s Nuclear program she had assured herself of political and biological longivity! She was so lonng. her husband and her overseas friends sold her in Rawalpindi for power in Pakistan and destabilization of Pakistan

BENAZIR FAUSTIAN DEALS WITH THE USA WERE IN THE BACKDROP OF WHAT HAPPENED TO HER FATHER:Benzir’s every political move and statement can be traced to what happened to her father. She was always scared of aanoying the Americans. Benazir’s last two prior stints as Prime Minister were a fiasco with rampant corruption, a total lack of governance and the years were full of political vendetta against opponents. She transferred Billions to bank accounts in Switzerland and bought Surray Palace in England. Benazir Bhutto did repeat her mistakes and paid for it with her life. May God Bless her soul!

Today the youth turn to extremism but Bhutto’s thesis is still accurate.

Tin-pot dictators have ravaged Asia, Latin America and Africa. In the aftermath, they have done more to promote communism than the works of Marxand Engels, Leninand Mao. They are the worst tyrants of the post-colonial period. They have destroyed time-honoured institutions and treated their people like animals. They have caused internal divisions and external confusion. The dictator is the one animal who needs to be caged. He betrays his profession and his constitution. He betrays the people and destroys human values. He destroys culture. He binds the youth. He makes the structure collapse. He rules by fluke and freak. He is the scourge and the ogre. He is a leper. Anyone who touches him also becomes a leper. He is the upstart who is devoid of ideals and ideology. Not a single one of them has made a moment’s contribution to history. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto A letter from the Death Cell (2007)p. 63

Bhuttos message from the grave to all Pakistanis:

What gift can I give you from this cell out of which my hand cannot pass? I give you the hand of the people. What celebration can I hold for you? I give you the celebration of a celebrated memory and a celebrated name. You are the heir to and inheritor of the most ancient civilization. Please make your full contribution to making this ancient civilization the most progressive and the most powerful. By progressive and powerful I do not mean the most dreaded. A dreaded society is not a civilized society. The most progressive and powerful society in the civilized sense, is a society which has recognized its ethos, and come to terms with the past and the present, with religion and science, with modernism and mysticism, with materialism and spirituality; a society free of tension, a society rich in culture. Such a society cannot come with hocus-pocus formulas and with fraud. It has to flow from the depth of a divine search. In other words, a classless society has to emerge but not necessarily a Marxist society. The Marxist society has created its own class structure. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto A letter from the Death Cell (2007)] p. 15

On How History will remember Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.

“When the history of this country is written it will be admitted by our people and by the world outside that no individual has rendered so much service to the cause of socialism in Pakistan as I have done.” Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto

The writings of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto should be mandatory reading for all Pakistanis (www.Bhutto.org).

Peace-Keeping by the United Nations. Pakistan Publishing House, Karachi. - 1967
Political Situation in Pakistan, Veshasher Prakashan, New Dehli. - 1968
The Myth of Independence, Oxford University Press, Karachi and Lahore. - 1969
The Great Tragedy, Pakistan People’s Party, Karachi. - 1971
Politics of the People (speeches, statements and articles), edited by Hamid Jalal and Khalid Hasan: Pakistan Publications, Rawalpindi. - 1948-1971
Speeches and Statements, Government of Pakistan, Karachi. - 1971-75
Bilateralism: New Directions. Government of Pakistan, Islamabad - 1976 The Third World: New Directions. Quartet Books, London. - 1977
My Pakistan. Biswin Sadi Publications, New Dehli. - 1979
If I am Assassinated, Vikas, New Dehli. - 1979
My Execution. Musawaat Weekly International, London - 1980
New Directions. Narmara Publishers, London. - 1980
CLINTON THREATENED PAKISTANTongueresident Clinton had warned Pakistan that it stood on the brink of being included in the terrorist watch list for harbouring Islamic extremists. He also enforced Pressler sanctions on Pakistan, which drastically reduced aid.

BUSH THREATENED PAKISTAN:In September 11, 2001 Richard Armitage on behalf of the President Bush threatened to send Pakistan to the stone ages if it did not assist the USAs war against Afghanistan. India was ready to provide air bases to the USA so that it could commence arpet bombing of Pakistan and Islamabad. President Musharraf “In the Line of Fire”.
The New Great Game was between the USA and Russia

The latest Great Game is between the USA and China
In all three Great Games the people of Paksitan and Afghanistan suffered

In all the Great Games the intruders were defeated by the people of Pakistan-Afghanistan

Pakistani infrastructure needs> Build Pakistan up as a bulwark against American enemies”

* About the inane discussion of taking out Pakistan’s Nuclear weapons.”
* Taking out Pakistani Nuclear weapons.”
* This was an angry reaction to Benazir Bhutto’s unpatriotic comments. According to tradition, we should not say bad things about a dead person. May God Bless her soul.”
* Every time something bad happens, anti-Pakistan elements come out of the woodwork. Here is a response to the talking heads.”
* The Democrats don’t get it!
http://moinansari.wordpress.com/pakistan-t...n-for-pakistan/
* Discussion of taking out Pakistani nukes: The White House should immediately repudiate this aggression and arrest Anti-Americansim”
* Discussion of taking out Pakistani nukes: The White House should immediately repudiate this aggression and arrest Anti-Americansim”
* Wish List from Pakistan to Santa America”
Perpetual Mimetic warfare
The Worst Islamphobes
Where are the Pakistani nukes?
* On Liaqat Ali Khan: Who killed him?
On deconstructing the wrong paradigm. Why the US Think Tank industry is wrong!
Rebutting Cohen. He is an Indian agent!
Another prophecy of doom for Pakistan. Blah Blah Blah!
Pakistanis want to hear “Thank You” for the US
Pakistanis to USA: We want “Friends Not Masters”
America: Say Thank You”
Pakistan US Relations should be normal not transactional”
Response to Congressman Hoyer on Pakistan”
On inadequate US Aid to Pakistan”
* ….Pakistanis are not stupid and have their nukes hidden”
* The Democrats don’t get it
* Where in the world is Osama Bin Laden
* The speech that Bilawal Bhutto should have given. The words that Zardari should have shouted. The thoughts that Fahim should have communicated
* The CIA Connection…….The Benzair Bhutto Assassination was pre planned, the Zia model with a twist. The continued CIA involvement in Pakistan. The Great Game continues. When the Elephants dance the grass gets stamped upon…Pakistanis suffer. The purpose of this assignation is to destabilize Pakistan and find a reason to secure the Nukes
* Criticism of Benazir Bhutto’s 5E Campaign program
* Criticism of Benazir Bhutto. Pre-Assassination
* Who killed Liaqat Ali Khan?
On deconstructing the wrong paradigm of the USA media
Rebutting Cohen
Pakistanis are immune to another prophecy of doom
Pakistanis want to hear “Thank You” from the ingrate Americans. Nothing is good enough!
Pakistanis to USA: We want “Friends Not Masters”
Say Thank You
Pakistan US Relations should be normal not transactional
Response to Congressman Hoyer on Pakistan”
On inadequate US Aid to Pakistan
Where is Osama Bin Laden
Where are the Pakistani nukes?
* Where is Leadership of the PPP? Why is it behaving like Nero. Stop the arson and the carnage. Ask for a national Day of prayer and reconciliation
* Open Letter to Mr. Bilawal Bhutto
* The CIA connection—Benazir Bhutto assassination was pre-planned, the Zia model with a twist
* Benzir Bhuttos revenge from the grave: Annointing a despised and corrupt politician Mr. 10% as her successor
* Open letter to Mr. Zardari
* The 4th Bhutto assassination is a message to the USA. Hands Off Pakistan
* Here we go again! Another Indian prophecy of doom. The first one was in 1947

We would like to refer our readers to the an article on “Toppling the US military” that is worth its weight in gold. Search for it on this site. See: “Kissinger threatened Zulifiqar Ali Bhutto”

http://rupeenews.com/2007/11/27/kissinger-...qar-ali-bhutto/
<b>Changing tide</b>?
<i>First Lower Dir, now Buner — the Pakistan Army has taken on the militants spilling out from Swat and acted to restore a modicum of the state’s writ in the two districts. After the army’s wait-and-watch policy in those areas allowed the militants to fan out and caused alarm, if not panic, within the country and internationally, it seems that the army has finally gotten serious about stamping out militancy. But much depends on what happens next in the days and months ahead. </i>


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