Monitoring Indian Communists - 3

[Bodhi]

On the above, you would be surprised how the English language media has painted this guy as a Gandhi, and Jharkhand government as the defeated demon. Everyday there are articles praising the 'Good Doctor'

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<b>Bengali TV channel cameraperson beaten by CPI-M cadres</b>

Kolkata, June 4 : A cameraperson of a Bengali television channel was
beaten up severely allegedly by a group of ruling Communist Party of
India-Marxist (CPI-M) activists for capturing footage of a party rally
in East Midnapore district of West Bengal, police said.

Diganta Manna, 24, was admitted in the ICU (intensive care unit) of a
private hospital.

Manna works with vernacular private television channel, Star Ananda, in
East Midnapore as a photojournalist.

"The cameraperson was injured in an attack by a group of political party
activists. He sustained chest and head injuries. He was later shifted to
Kolkata for better medical treatment," a senior police officer said.

According to police sources, the car carrying the injured cameraperson
was also escorted by a district police van till Kolaghat area.

http://www.newkerala.com/nkfullnews-1-50383.html

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<b>Welcome to India’s newest, secret state</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Carefully shielded from the public eye, the Hindustan Times found India’s second “liberated zone”, a Maoist-run state within a state where development for more than 2 lakh people is unfolding at a pace not seen in 30 years of Left rule.

Apart from taking over the organs of the state, most notably the executive and the judiciary, the Maoists here have built at least 50 km of gravel paths, dug tubewells and tanks, rebuilt irrigation canals and are running health centres, with the help of local villagers.

Across India, 150 of 600 districts are termed “Naxal affected”, meaning areas nominally or directly under the control of Maoists. India’s so-called Red Corridor now sprawls across nine states.<b> It is a situation that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has called “the gravest challenge to India’s security</b>”.

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<b>CPI(M) to split in Kerala</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Fuelling a split in the Kerala CPI (M), which has been fuming owing to the involvement of its state secretary Pinarayi Vijayan in the SNC Lavalin Case, the ministers loyal to the party secretary in the Achuthanandan ministry is all set to resign due to discord with the chief minister, who is a bitter rival of Vijayan.

Those ministers who expressed before the state unit their dissatisfaction to continue their posts are Kodiyeri Balakrishnan, A K Balan, P K Sreemathy, Elamaram Kareem, Paloli Muhammedkutty, M A Baby, G Sudhakaran and Thomas Isaac.

There are reports that the home minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan has telephoned party general secretary Prakash Karat to inform this. Thomas Isaac who is now at New Delhi has also met politburo member S Ramachandrapillai on this regard.

But Prakash Karat rejected the report saying no such things were discussed.

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http://www.kaumudi.com/


Get ready for the split in CPI(M) in Kerala. I will be the happiest person because Kerala is my home state..

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<b>Communists attack church in Kerala</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ALAPPUZHA: St. Joseph's College for Women under the Diocese of Alappuzha, a Higher secondary school and the church close by were attacked on Monday morning, a day the communist declared to observe as 'black day.'

The incident took place, following the permission granted by the Governor to prosecute CPI (M) Communist party of India (Marxist) state chief Mr. Pinarayi Vijayan in a scam, the party in Kerala declared a 'black day' observance which turned violent in Alappuzha, destroying properties of the church and the college. Following the decision by the Governor the party unit in the state declared a hartal at first, and then with the intervention by the central leaders, reduced it to the observance of a 'black day' against the decision by the Governor.

The activists were to demonstrate, taking out a march against the decision by the Governor. The church in Kerala has been very much local in their opposition to the policies by the communist government in the state and the bishops had come out in the open saying that the church had played a vital role in the recent elections, to make sure the defeat of the communists.

There had been the verbal exchange going on between the party chief and the church leaders for some time. On Monday about 10. 30 in the morning a group of party activists jumped over the front gate of the college meant exclusively for women. They began destroying everything that came on their way. They destroyed the garden in front of the school and then turned to the Convent Chapel near by. The first group then moved to the College campus and then there was a second group following. The authorities have estimated a loss of Rs. 1, 20,000

The activists during the destruction were also raising slogans against the recent Circular issued by Cardinal Varkey Vithayathil on the 50th anniversary of the liberation struggle.Sr. Leela Mappilasseri,the principal of the college and Sr.Tresa Lonan, the managing trustee, talked to the media on the incident, were saying that this kind of an attack had never happened even during the hartals. 'This is the first of its kind in the history of this college', said Sr. Leela.

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http://www.indiancatholic.in/news/storydet...hurch-in-Kerala

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<b>Why India's Communists Are Losing Ground</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->For decades, they have been a familiar sight in the sun-kissed Indian state of Kerala or the country's crumbling eastern metropolis of Kolkata. The somber portraits of dead white men — a bearded Marx, a bespectacled Lenin, and Stalin, his moustache bristling — peer down at passers-by from banners strung up over palm trees or street-corner billboards, accompanied by the less-hallowed visages of local comrades. India's Communists have been key players in the hurly burly of the world's largest democracy, dominating the ballot box in states like West Bengal, where Kolkata is the capital, and where a Communist government has ruled for over thirty years. But this month's national elections, won decisively by the ruling Congress-led government, has plunged India's left-wing into crisis. (Read about the key players to emerge from India's elections.)


Amid the hundreds of acronyms that make up India's political landscape, the Communists rank among the few recognized "national" political parties of India, along with the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and the ruling Congress party. Competing for 130 seats, they only won 20, losing more than half their seats in the 543-seat lower house and suffering particularly costly setbacks in their strongholds of West Bengal and Kerala. In the last government, the Communists and their allies — known collectively as the Left Front — were an influential part of the ruling coalition. Now they have been relegated to the fringes of Parliament. "This necessitates action and rethinking," said Prakash Karat, general secretary of the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M), the main Communist faction, speaking to reporters soon after the polls. (See pictures of Congress Party leader Sonia Gandhi on the campaign trail in 2004)

Things are likely to get worse for India's Communists before they get better. Their defeats stem in part from a record of poor governance in the states where they draw most of their support; in West Bengal, a move by the ruling Communists to take land from peasants for private industrial projects led to a voter backlash in May's elections. Party insiders expect the outcome of state assembly elections in 2011 will end their already thin grip on power, and a growing schism between CPI-M politicians pushing for capitalist reforms and the more orthodox intellectual elite in New Delhi have led many anti-Communist critics to gleefully prophesize the party's disintegration. Leftist intellectuals are also uncertain about the Communists' prospects. "There's going to be a lot of churning," says Aditya Nigam, a fellow at the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, a Delhi-based think tank, who worked for the CPI-M for seventeen years. (Read about the five challenges facing India's election victors.)

It's little surprise that far-left politics have thrived in India, where a third of the country remains below the poverty line and the majority still ekes out a living in the countryside. While the main Communist parties have always tied their lot to parliamentary democracy, championing land reform and opposing moves toward privatization, myriad splinter groups fighting for the marginalized and dispossessed continue to wage bloody insurgencies in pockets of the country. Still, India's remarkable economic growth in recent decades and its emergence as a key player in global affairs under the Congress-led government of Manmohan Singh has put an air of anachronism around the venerable Communists. "In this day and age, why do you still celebrate the 90th anniversary of the October revolution," asks Surjit Bhalla, a financial pundit and anchor of the show "Tough Talk" on NDTV, one of India's main cable news networks. "How many democratic parties in the world have a bust of Stalin in their headquarters?"

In an attempt to paper over the extent of their losses, the Communists have been quick to point out their vital influence in shaping the policies of Singh's past government. The rural upliftment schemes that many believe won Congress this election, for instance, were pushed and prodded along by Communist support. "They have an effect that goes beyond their electoral strengths," says Jayati Ghosh, a professor of economics at Delhi's Jawaharlal Nehru University and a prominent left-wing columnist. But the country's focus now is more on the effect of the Communists' absence. Unshackled from leftist dogmas against free trade and deregulation, Singh's new government is expected to push through significant liberalizing measures, including reforms of public sectors such as banking, health and education, and an overhaul of India's bloated state bureaucracies.

Singh's emboldened mandate will also extend beyond India's borders. Left Front opposition to an Indo-U.S. nuclear deal nearly brought down the government last year when the Communists, who still view the U.S. with a Cold War lens, clamored against strengthening ties between New Delhi and "imperialist" Washington. They pulled out of the ruling coalition and Singh barely survived a no-confidence vote. Experts now anticipate an India that will be more muscular in its regional affairs, better equipped to deal with the urgent policy challenges posed by a rising China. Some in the CPI-M foster a sense of solidarity with the land of Mao that Beijing has never reciprocated. "There is some kind of strange blindness to China," says Nigam, the former CPI-M member. "I don't even know how [the Communists] still see it as socialist. China is not in any way different from any other one-party, authoritarian state."

Observers outside India have hailed the general results of this month's polls as a sign of stability and progress. Rather than vote along divisive lines of caste or creed, peddled by some candidates and parties, the electorate rewarded good governance and platforms that promised further development. The right-wing BJP is flailing desperately to recast itself as a more moderate political force; the CPI-M faces a long spell out in the cold. "All of us Indians have been shocked by how long the old ideas have lasted," says Bhalla. "But now we are graduating to a sort of center-space like in Western democracies." Few can speculate the Communists' way forward — the CPI-M's central committee is set for a rancorous showdown in New Delhi next month. Nigam hopes the socialist revival in Latin America can offer ideas and inspiration for a movement in India that is short on both. But the days when the specters of a fading ideology line entire city streets may be truly numbered.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8...1900804,00.html

[dhu]

<!--QuoteBegin-AryanK+Jun 11 2009, 07:50 AM-->QUOTE(AryanK @ Jun 11 2009, 07:50 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->"There's going to be a lot of churning," says Aditya Nigam, a fellow at the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, a Delhi-based think tank, who worked for the CPI-M for seventeen years. (Read about the five challenges facing India's election victors.)
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Centre for the Study of Developing Societies: this type of name is only used by Western agencies. It is like NED, Open Society Institute..

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Any reason why this thread cannot go into existing thread?

[Husky]

^ Of course. The communist jihad waiting to attack Hindu Bharatam when it is ready. Rather like the islamaniac slums of the TSP and BD infiltrators waiting to islamically jihad Hindu Bharatam, and like the christoconverted villages of Bharatam regularly doing christian jihad in Hindu Bharatam. ^


http://amaodisha.com/orissa/crime/maoists-...police-station/
(link found via http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/06/lib...-in-orissa.html )
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Maoists attack Baipariguda Police station
{ Posted on Jun 07 2009 by rutambhara }
Tags : attack on police, Baipariguda, Explosives, Koraput, Machhakunda, Maoists, Maoists attack, Police station
Categories : Crime

koraput

The terror of Maoists is concentrating in a rapid pace.In an another attack by maoists, the undivided Koraput district came under their grasp few hours ago.

Maoists attacked the Baipariguda police station with explosives.It has been reported that more than 100 maoists attack the place and still the firing is in process.The Machakunda maoists association is believed to be the culprit behind the attack.

Maoists made the police to come outside and then attacked the station with brought explosives.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Are these the maoist christoterrorists of Orissa? Or are these maoist maoists? (Are there maoist maoists in Orissa?)

[shamu]

Guess who is appropriating what?

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Fierce gunfight erupts as Maoists hit back</b>
pioneer.com
Saugar Sengupta | Pirkata (Lalgarh)/Midnapore
<b>Forces fear more attacks at night</b>
Top Maoist leader Koteshwar Rao alias Kishanji had on Thursday welcomed the Central forces’ advance towards Lalgarh saying, <b>“They will enter Lalgarh, but will not return from there. We will teach them a lesson.”</b>

His followers have converted words into action within 24 hours, mounting a surprise attack on the security forces from the rear. Though baffled for a while, the forces staged a tactical retreat and launched retaliatory fire leading to a three-hour gunfight which had stopped just ahead of sundown. No casualty was reported on either side till reports last came in, though Government sources said there was hardly any means to know the number of casualties if there were any among the Maoists.

If the security forces aided by the two companies of the Combat Battalion for Resolute Action (CoBRA), a specialised anti-Maoist force, had decided to wrap up the operation by Friday, the Maoists seemed to outsmart them by launching a counter attack from the rear: At Pirrakhuli-Koima which had reportedly been sanitised on Thursday.
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<b>LeT, Naxals team up</b>

June 20th, 2009
By Our Correspondent


New Delhi, June 19: <b>Mohd Omar Madni, a suspected militant, has disclosed about the links between Pakistan-based terror outfit Lashker-e-Tayyaba and the Maoists in Jharkhand</b>, investigators told a court here on Friday.

“<b>He (Madni) revealed that the LeT was acting in coordination with Maoists in Jharkhand. He has acted as conduit for LeT and provided training to recruits in PoK and sent them to India to carry out terror strikes,</b>” the public prosecutor told the court which extended the police remand of Madni by seven days.

The Delhi Police, which is interrogating Madni, contended that his custodial quizzing was necessary to ascertain his email details and bank accounts which revealed transactions to the tune of Rs 25 lakh.

The metropolitan magistrate, Mr Manish Yaduvan-shi, allowed the plea of the police, which has arrested Madni under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act.

Madni, a resident of Bihar was arrested on June 4 from near Qutub Minar.

[Husky]

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True maoist Communitwits to CPM communitwit cultists: "Take that ya heretics! Deus Volt!"
(Do we start gathering the troops for a Requiem? Or do we still have some time before the finale.)

http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/06/lal...communists.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Thursday, June 18, 2009
<b>lalgarh: communists meet real communists</b>
jun 18th, 2009

there is obviously no law in the land of bengal.

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<b>Police scoot, rebels ravage</b>
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->At Maoist mercy
<b>Police scoot, rebels ravage </b>
PRONAB MONDAL

Lalgarh, June 15: Bengal police today deserted Dharampur, leaving the 30-year bastion of the CPM to the mercy of Maoists who unleashed a rampage apparently in the making at least since 2007.

The Maoists had a free run of the West Midnapore village through the day, tearing down party and police establishments before withdrawing to their staging post in Lalgarh that is out of bounds for law-enforcement.

The stage was set for the Maoist rampage when police personnel posted in camps on the outskirts of Lalgarh deserted their posts late last night following the murder of three CPM activists in Dharampur, around 11km from Lalgarh town.

“We have no orders to open fire. So we had no option but to get away,” said a policeman who had left the Dharampur camp. “If we had been confronted by the armed Maoists, what could we have done? In areas they dominate, they are surrounded by hundreds of villagers. So even if we had flouted orders and fired in self-defence, unarmed villagers may have been killed.”

Around midnight last night, 320 policemen left their camps in Dharampur, Ramgarh (which falls in Lalgarh), Belatikuti and Koima.

The field clear, thousands of villagers from Lalgarh, where the police have been unable to enter since November 2008, this morning swept into areas known as CPM strongholds.

Under the supervision of armed CPI (Maoist) cadres, the villagers burnt down the police camps at Ramgarh and Koima and partly demolished the home of a CPM leader. (Picture and details in box)
(It's the revolution! It's come at last: The communist People revolt against the Communist State!)

Around 50 armed Maoists, carrying mostly .303 rifles snatched from policemen and single-barrel rifles, were part of the hordes that marched into Dharampur after the police left. None of the known leaders of the People’s Committee Against Police Atrocities, the outfit spearheading the villagers’ protest, could be spotted among the crowd.

“So far, we had kept ourselves restricted to Lalgarh, but now we are making other areas here a part of the liberated zone,” said Bikash, who is in charge of the operations of the Maoists in Lalgarh. “This had been part of our long-term plan and now is the time to put the plan into operation.”

An AK-47 slung across his shoulder, Bikash oversaw the demolition operations today.

But those supposed to enforce the law appeared to be cut off from the ground. Arnab Ghosh, the deputy superintendent of police, operations, based in Lalgarh and in charge of all these camps, said: “I was not aware of this (the desertion of police posts). I only got to know of it at 1 this morning, an hour after they had left their posts.”

“Our victory lies in getting hold of Dharampur, which has been a CPM stronghold for over 30 years,” Bikash said.

“In West Midnapore, we first consolidated our base in Belpahari, Banspahari and then Bhulabheda,” he added. “By 2007, once we were on a sure footing in these areas, we decided to move into neighbouring Lalgarh and begin working among the people.”

In a year, the Maoists had covered “reasonable” ground, but were still waiting to bring the area in its complete grip. The “spark” was provided in November 2008 by police atrocities after a mine explosion on the chief minister’s route.

“We grabbed it. The issue helped generate a lot of goodwill for us in Lalgarh,” Bikash said. “Having stopped the police from entering the area, we brought in members of our action squad from Jharkhand and Orissa and we have trained about 400 youths of Lalgarh in handling arms.”

The next “logical step” for the Maoists was to extend their reach. The choice was the CPM stronghold of Dharampur, which was putting up “maximum” resistance to the Maoists. “Last week, we had heard that the CPM there was getting arms and outsiders to fight us. So we jumped to strike,” Bikash said.

<b>Chief minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee did not comment in public, though the government’s hands-off policy came under attack from Left politicians.

Chief secretary Asok Mohan Chakrabarti said “everything possible” was being done. Told about the burning down of the Dharampur CPM office, he said: “Ask the party.”</b>
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Come on maotwit KKKomrades, next step is Bhoothamdebile's house and those of CPM party members. Burn baby, burn. Then CPM chief kkkomrade Asok can say "everything possible" is being done again. Sure - everything possible done by the maowits.)


<b>THE BUNGALOW THAT A COMRADE BUILT</b>
 
A two-storeyed house being built by CPM Lalgarh zonal committee secretary Anuj Pandey and his relatives became the symbol of what the Maoists termed “exploitation of peasants” and was partly demolished. Villagers converged on the house in Dharampur, beating drums and chanting: “Come and watch how a zamindar’s house made with money sucked from poor peasants is being demolished.”

Then they started breaking down parts of the house. The first-floor balcony railing was ripped out, the boundary wall on the roof demolished, the marble floor dug up and all doors and windows were smashed. Pandey, along with his two brothers, owns 40 bighas in the area — an enviable possession in a district where Bengal’s poorest of the poor live.

Pandey, a CPM wholetimer who earns Rs 1,500 a month, said he was building the house along with his brothers, one of whom deals in agri-products business. “The house is not yet complete,” Pandey said.

“They targeted my house because I stood up to the Maoists and stopped their advance beyond Lalgarh.”

With dusk descending, the villagers suspended the demolition.“We’ll complete it later,” Maoist Lalgarh leader Bikash said.

Picture: Swarup Mondal
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I like communism. Really I do. Everyone is equal, after all. Everyone will have absolutely nothing and be busy tearing each other's houses down. Welcome to development and progression, commie style! Not for nothing are they called communitwits.

Are these maoists - these <i>Truer</i> Communists - the same as the true christian maoists in Orissa, but are here saving Bengal for chwist? (Bears asking.)
Oh but they're/used to be working with TSP/BD islamaniacs, aren't they - allowing in infiltrators and everything? Still, christos work with islamaniacs too (christoterrorist outfits like NLFT, NSCN etcetera have their bases in BD). As do plain vanilla communits.
How to tell the difference? I don't know. All three go after heretics. Quite indistinguishable actually. Christoislamicommunazism it is.

[Husky]

Hysterisch.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Maoist-violence-part-of-wider-gameplan-CPM/articleshow/4680681.cms
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Maoist violence part of wider gameplan: CPM</b>
20 Jun 2009, 1815 hrs IST, PTI

NEW DELHI: Condemning the Maoist violence against the Left cadre, CPM on Saturday said these attacks were part of a "wider gameplan by powerful
vested interests" to destroy the party in its bastion of West Bengal.

"There is no doubt that this attack against the CPM and its workers and sympathisers is part of the wider game gameplan by powerful vested interests to weaken and destroy the party in its main base of Bengal," the party Central Committee said in a statement here.
(Hmmm. Could it be... the march of Ze True Religion perhaps? After all, "In The End There Can Be Only One." Heresies will be decapitated. Set this to the opening credits, Queen's "Born to be kings, we're the princes of the universe... I have no rival, no man can be my equal..."
Apologies to any Highlander movie/series fans for stealing your line/your themesong/your plot.)

<b>The party was of the view that these "fascistic type" of attacks on the CPM</b> were also an attack on the minimum norms of democracy and must be a matter of concern to all democratic minded citizens.
( <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo--> Communist beats up communist. Loser communist screams: Fascist!
Classic! This is <i>The Line</i> of the year! Can't foresee anything topping this.)

<b>"In Lalgarh, the Maoist gang with direct and indirect backing of the Trinamool Congress has created a zone of terror against CPM members and supporters.</b>
(Maybe it wasn't wild speculation. Maybe there's a bit of Ze True Religion in these maoist attackers after all... Or perhaps it's only pushing the unwitting footsoldiers on in its grander purpose. Or maybe it's no more than Trinamool Congress' Vendetta.)

"It is noted that the Maoist leaders in the area have openly spoken about their contacts and help to the Trinamool-led alliance in all the developments in Nandigram," the party alleged.

The Central Committee said it supports the efforts made by West Bengal government to use both political and administrative measures to free the area from Maoist gangs while taking all steps to reestablish links with the poor tribals living in the area.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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They are killing each other, all for money. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Husky]

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jun 21 2009, 05:05 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jun 21 2009, 05:05 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->They are killing each other, all for money.  <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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And, continuing to speak in the absence of a wildlife researcher, I think we shouldn't interfere in their mutual-killing sprees: we should respect their right to follow their communist religion and cannibalise each other. Should not disturb their internal dynamics.
It's only when they attack indigenous Dharmics - who are of a different species and religion, and endangered besides - that we have a right (duty) to do something.

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<b>Centre declares Maoists a terrorist organization</b>
Those who were supporting them till now should be declared Terrorist.
Govt can refer India-forum thread on supporters.

[Guest]

I am not under influence but my head is spinning

<b>CPM never sought ban on VHP: Karat </b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->NEW DELHI: CPM general secretary Prakash Karat on Tuesday clarified that <b>his party had never demanded a ban on Vishwa Hindu Parishad. </b>

Reacting to news reports stating that in the past, CPM had demanded ban on VHP, Karat said, "We only demanded ban on Bajrang Dal after violence in Kandhamal. <b>As for VHP and RSS, we have all along maintained that political organisations should not be banned."</b> <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now CPM want to use VHP and RSS to beat Congress in Kerala and WB.

[Capt M Kumar]

<!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> There is a critical difference between the two. The Central ban under the 1967 Act which was amended once last year, holds true pan-India and the list already has some 35 entities on it. But the state government could have used the 1908 Act to ban Maoists on its own too.

Had it done so, it would have been a proper expression of intent and the message would have gone out loud and clear that the CPM government, has taken the initiative to ban the CPI-Maoist organisation on its own too.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/P...how/4699444.cms

[dhu]

Manmohan made the appeal for Binayak Sen's release..

<b>Dr Sen’s case has put Indian democracy on trial. Will it prove itself or fail? </b>
by Praful Bidwai

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ultimately, it’s a terrible comment on Chhattisgarh’s political leadership, in particular, Bharatiya Janata Party Chief Minister Raman Singh, that they should allow a police officer’s illiterate and irrational prejudices to wreak havoc on civil liberties.

Dr Raman Singh, however, plays a double game. On the one hand, he says he’d like to see Dr Sen released on bail, but claims he’s helpless in the face of the courts which deny him bail. On the other, his government doggedly opposes Dr Sen’s bail application in every single forum. <b>He has also refused Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s appeals in favour of bail. </b>The Chief Minister’s double standards must be understood as part of a larger game-plan: to perpetuate the status quo based on the rapacious exploitation of Adivasis and Chhattisgarh’s staggering natural wealth which is used to subserve Big Business, forest contractors and traders. Horrifying inequalities of income and wealth.......<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<b> Left sees red over Sanskrit</b>
http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/07/16/my-op...-over-sanskrit/
Sandeep B

The arguments against the setting up of a Sanskrit university in Karnataka are rooted in Marxist opposition to any effort to preserve and revive India’s cultural heritage

Ever since the Government announced the idea of forming a Sanskrit university in Karnataka, the forces of hell have been unleashed there. Normally, the two main Opposition parties who are always opposed to each other on every issue in the State are now united in their opposition to this proposal.

Sanskrit-bashing has been in vogue ever since it was institutionalised under the aegis of the Nehruvian secularist state. India’s first brown sahib wrote about Sanskrit in flowery English, but failed to grasp its fragrance. The result was the perpetuation of the missionary system of education that severed hundreds of thousands of Indians from their own roots. That kind of education apart from generating employment breeds a curious sense of audacious entitlement bred by ignorance. And so, these worthies call Sanskrit a “dead” language without learning it.

Ask them why, and you get a list of ‘evidences’ stained with colonial and Marxist hues of Indian history. The ‘dead’ tag has become political fodder for all opponents of Sanskrit. But fundamentally, it stems from a vituperative hatred of Brahmins.

According to this theory, Sanskrit is supposedly associated to Brahmins because it was the language of priests during the Vedic times. This language was kept ‘secret’ and deliberately not taught to the ‘oppressed classes’. The latest variation of this theory is that we need languages that generate employment and Sanskrit doesn’t qualify for this. By this logic, most if not all Indian regional languages qualify as ‘dead’ languages.

Realistically, how many regional languages are used in everyday business? Also, establishing a Sanskrit university is supposed to somehow endanger Kannada’s survival, another baseless argument as we shall see.

The whole hoopla over renaming cities, roads, and insistence on governmental transactions in a particular regional language shows the desperation to retain the ‘purity’ of these languages in face of the onslaught of English.

What these purity proponents don’t realise is that you cannot preserve Indian languages by severing their inextricable link with Sanskrit. The vocabulary and grammar of most Indian languages are derived from Sanskrit. From Telugu (which exhibits the maximum influence of Sanskrit), Kannada, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Marathi, Gujarati, and Oriya, the root of every Indian language is Sanskrit. Cut off this root and every language will need to find new words for common terms like marg, jan, mantri, parishad, sabha, baarish, sri, guru, and so on. Also, is it a mere coincidence that the script of most major Indian languages (barring all South Indian languages) is a variant of Devanagari, the script of Sanskrit?

There’s plentiful research that shows that Sanskrit was not the language of just the Vedic priests. The most readily available evidence is the Sanskrit idioms that have an echo in their regional counterparts like galli ka kutta, road romeo, eve-teaser, and so on. The obvious conclusion is that Sanskrit was a language of the lay man.

Sanskrit is what gives identity to the Indian civilisation as we know it. From Valmiki to Kalidas, every major Sanskrit literary work spoke of this identity in its own way. From the fourth canto of Raghuvamsham, which describes the length and breadth of India to Meghadootam, where the cloud-messenger describes in intense detail the beauty of the varying diversity of India. Both these exalted works contain the subtext of the cultural unity of the nation. And it is what our secularists want us to forget in their hollow trumpeting of ‘composite culture’ (sic), which actually means denying India its heritage to which Sanskrit contributes the lion’s share.

The real reason for opposing the founding of a Sanskrit university in Karnataka is starkly political than anything noble. <b>It reeks of the tired old rhetoric of Brahmins-are-the-root-of-all-evil-in-India</b>. Those opposing the move have exactly zero accomplishment in promoting the cause of Kannada. Besides, the other overarching factor is that there’s a BJP Government in Karnataka.

We only need to look at all the other Sanskrit universities in India to expose this woeful reasoning. How many of these Sanskrit universities have threatened the language of the State in which they are situated? Or is Kannada (or Telugu or Bengali) that fragile that it can’t withstand Sanskrit’s influence? History shows that Indian regional languages were actually enriched by close contact with Sanskrit and vice versa.

There’s a reason why regional languages are struggling for survival. The Nehruvian state’s removal of Sanskrit from the education system robbed these languages of their original richness. As a result, the Hindi or Tamil we get to hear in the cities contain more English than Hindi or Tamil.
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The Karnataka Government’s move is more than welcome. If the Sanskrit university revives the defining language of India, it will create a generation of self-aware and proud Indians who will (hopefully) rediscover the genius of India and Sanskrit.</b>