Geopolitics

[Guest]

Doesn't Poland have the policy of not letting so many VIPs travel in a single aircraft?

New democracy and a developing country.

Very sad day for Poland.

[shamu]

Does anybody know Polish history?



Why do all major european powers invade Poland?

I think Polish jokes are the most ethnically targetted jokes in Europe. They must be created to ridicule Polish people as a group. Any idea what their ancestor did long time back to others?

[acharya]

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Does anybody know Polish history?



Why do all major european powers invade Poland?

I think Polish jokes are the most ethnically targetted jokes in Europe. They must be created to ridicule Polish people as a group. Any idea what their ancestor did long time back to others?

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Polish are the Roman catholics in the middle of orthodox (Russia), German protestant and Anglican Christians.

They are the outsiders in this area and hence are a target.



Jews had integrated inside the Polish society and had controlled the economy.

Prussia was a leading state during the 1700s and had

As Polish head of state, Lech was said to consult with his twin daily about the country’s affairs. Then, in July 2006, he made Jaroslaw’s role official by appointing him prime minister.



Together, they sought to uncover misdeeds by former communist officials – a widely criticized campaign.



Perhaps more detrimental to Poland, they raised the hackles of many in the European Union by challenging the EU’s pervasive secularism. Many of their older countrymen feared that such ideals would erode Poland’s unique identity and its long association with the Roman Catholic church.



A devout Catholic himself who publicly thanked Rome for its support of the Solidarity movement, Lech and his brother strongly opposed abortion. In a break from Catholic teaching, they also campaigned for a return of the death penalty, and made clear that their political and moral stances wouldn’t be swayed by the carrot of EU funding. While socially conservative, they espoused socialist economic policies.

[acharya]

India's international unease

Unlike China, India is finding it difficult to adapt to its status as an emerging 'Great Power' looked upon favourably by the west

Dominique Moisi

guardian.co.uk, Sunday 18 April 2010 17.00 BST

Article history

Some countries are naturally at ease with the concept and the reality of strategic power. Such was clearly the case of France under Louis XIV, the Sun King in the 17th century, and such is the case today of China, whose leadership is comfortable with the balance-of-power games of classical Europe.

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India is clearly in a different category. In economic terms, its confidence has been boosted by the way the western world now looks at it with a mixture of respect and greed[/size]: "What kind of deals can I strike with such an emerging market, whose population will soon be the largest of any country in the world?"



Yet, in order to understand India's political and diplomatic relationship with the outside world, the most enlightening comparison is with America in 1920. Like the US after the first world war, India is realising that its status and role in the world have been deeply transformed in the last two decades. And, like America then, India is not naturally at ease with the notion of exercising global power.

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India's history and culture, from Asoka, its mythical emperor in the third century BC, to Gandhi, push it to emphasise ethics and to consider itself an "exceptional" nation in its relationship with the world.[/size] Contrary to China, India finds it difficult to adapt to its status as an emerging "Great Power". It would be a gross exaggeration, of course, to speak of an Indian "inferiority complex". And yet India constantly measures itself against China, remains obsessed with Pakistan, and has recently begun to look more critically at its relationship with the US.



It is natural for India to proclaim its "democratic" superiority to China while recognising that on all strategic fronts it is not in the same league. But is it even possible to draw a comparison between what one Indian academic has called the "robotised Chinese man" and the vast human diversity of India?

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India seems to worry more than ever about China's evolution.[/size] China's key role within the G-20, together with the relative if not absolute decline of the western powers, seems to have reinforced the hardliners in Beijing and the nationalism of a China that seems less ready than ever to accept any criticism of its human rights record. Viewed from New Delhi, the vision of a reasonable, prudent, and ultimately satisfied China – a vision "sold" to the world by the minister mentor of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew – appears less than obvious.

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When it comes to Pakistan, too, India seems to lack confidence. On all fronts – demographic, economic, military, and political – India is far above Pakistan. But India does not seem to know how to deal with its north-western neighbour, and even less whom to deal with in its government.[/size]



The largest democracy in the world cannot say openly that it almost preferred the military dictatorship of General Pervez Musharraf to the chaos of the current situation. In reality, what prevails in India is a deep sense of frustration with Pakistan. India's overtures to Pakistan's government have largely remained unanswered, and when Indian officials express their unease, the US, if not the international community, accuses them of behaving irresponsibly.



If India seems not to believe that America and its allies can really "succeed" in Afghanistan, it is unwilling to resign itself to a return of the Taliban to power, which could in turn lead to Talibanisation of Pakistan. Yet India seems to behave in a very "European" way in Afghanistan; it is ready to send money and experts, but not troops.

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India's worries and frustrations in Afghanistan and Pakistan translate into a mixture of disillusion and irritation with an America that, seen from New Delhi, allows itself to be manipulated by Pakistani officials. Indians cannot quite decide whether the Americans are simply "naive" or duplicitous – either way, they are not reassured.[/size]



Whatever the case, the current warming of relations between India and Russia, symbolised by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's recent visit, does not translate into a grand reversal of alliances, as India's break with Russia in the 1990s did. India's exchanges with Russia are only one-fifth of what they are with China. What prevails nowadays in New Delhi and Moscow is simple pragmatism.



While there is room for Europe in India's view of the world, for it (as for China) Europe is above all an economic rather than a political reality. When it comes to politics, bilateral relations prevail, and from that standpoint France and Germany seem more important than Great Britain. The raj era may be visible in the buildings of New Delhi and in the uniforms of the Indian army, but Britain has lost any competitive edge that it once had in India. The past is truly passed.

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India's unease about strategic power, and its resemblance to a gigantic European Union united only by the English language, reflects its ongoing search for a new international identity. In this quest, India is impaired by its lack of practice in the exercise of power on a grand scale.[/size] It is not about to become a second China – it lacks both the means and the ambition. That is a further reason for the west to engage and invest in India.

[Guest]

To appease its own Muslims, India will always fail when it comes to Pakistan or Bangladesh. Vote bank politics will bring down India. India's reaction towards US Afghan policy is like cry baby, in reality its all about keeping Indian muslim happy along with votes.



Ashoka is now mythical Emperor, west still have no knowledge about India or its history.

[Guest]

[url="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1268630/Greece-hit-new-riots-pressure-grows-quit-euro.html"]Greece hit by new riots as pressure grows to quit euro[/url]

Support for the bail-out of debt-ridden Greece was in doubt last night, leaving the country on the brink of financial meltdown as top German politicians said it should be forced to quit the euro.



Riots erupting during workers’ protests over planned public spending cuts, just hours after Greek Premier George Papandreou sought emergency £35billion of loans from eurozone countries and the International Monetary Fund.

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Same will happen to other European countries. To collect tax, they are increasing oil tax, income tax and carbon tax, once they will ran out of peoples money and they have to cut government spending , people will be on street.

Same will happen to India, inflation is so high and debt is growing.

[Guest]

Day before yesterday, teachers union in Springfield were asking Tax increase,just to keep retirement funding going.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flx2Q0bVy4Q[/media]

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Looks like Bill Gates is on a vaccinate everyone drive in India..

[HareKrishna]

[quote name='shamu' date='12 April 2010 - 03:53 AM' timestamp='1271024154' post='105848']

Does anybody know Polish history?



Why do all major european powers invade Poland?

I think Polish jokes are the most ethnically targetted jokes in Europe. They must be created to ridicule Polish people as a group. Any idea what their ancestor did long time back to others?

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Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth

The Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth was marked by high levels of ethnic diversity and by unusual religious tolerance, though the degree of religious tolerance varied over time.

The Commonwealth had also one of the largest Jewish diasporas in the world – by the mid-16th century 80% of the world's Jews lived in Poland.

Seems that Poland play a great role in survival of Ashkenazim Jews that form 90% of today jew population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%8...mmonwealth

[Guest]

[url="http://www.sott.net/articles/show/185155-Billionaire-club-in-bid-to-curb-overpopulation"]Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation[/url]

America's richest people meet to discuss ways of tackling a 'disastrous' environmental, social and industrial threat



Some of America's leading billionaires have met secretly to consider how their wealth could be used to slow the growth of the world's population and speed up improvements in health and education.



The philanthropists who attended a summit convened on the initiative of Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder, discussed joining forces to overcome political and religious obstacles to change.



Described as the Good Club by one insider it included David Rockefeller Jr, the patriarch of America's wealthiest dynasty, Warren Buffett and George Soros, the financiers, Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, and the media moguls Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey.



These members, along with Gates, have given away more than £45 billion since 1996 to causes ranging from health programmes in developing countries to ghetto schools nearer to home.



They gathered at the home of Sir Paul Nurse, a British Nobel prize biochemist and president of the private Rockefeller University, in Manhattan on May 5. The informal afternoon session was so discreet that some of the billionaires' aides were told they were at "security briefings".



Stacy Palmer, editor of the Chronicle of Philanthropy, said the summit was unprecedented. "We only learnt about it afterwards, by accident. Normally these people are happy to talk good causes, but this is different - maybe because they don't want to be seen as a global cabal," he said.



Some details were emerging this weekend, however. The billionaires were each given 15 minutes to present their favourite cause. Over dinner they discussed how they might settle on an "umbrella cause" that could harness their interests.



The issues debated included reforming the supervision of overseas aid spending to setting up rural schools and water systems in developing countries. Taking their cue from Gates they agreed that overpopulation was a priority.



This could result in a challenge to some Third World politicians who believe contraception and female education weaken traditional values.



Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation.



At a conference in Long Beach, California, last February, he had made similar points. "Official projections say the world's population will peak at 9.3 billion [up from 6.6 billion today] but with charitable initiatives, such as better reproductive healthcare, we think we can cap that at 8.3 billion," Gates said then.



Patricia Stonesifer, former chief executive of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which gives more than £2 billion a year to good causes, attended the Rockefeller summit. She said the billionaires met to "discuss how to increase giving" and they intended to "continue the dialogue" over the next few months.



Another guest said there was "nothing as crude as a vote" but a consensus emerged that they would back a strategy in which population growth would be tackled as a potentially disastrous environmental, social and industrial threat.



"This is something so nightmarish that everyone in this group agreed it needs big-brain answers," said the guest. "They need to be independent of government agencies, which are unable to head off the disaster we all see looming."



[size="5"]Why all the secrecy? "They wanted to speak rich to rich without worrying anything they said would end up in the newspapers, painting them as an alternative world government," he said[/size].

[Capt M Kumar]

<img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Writing in The Guardian after his visit to New Delhi, Cameron wrote: "For most of the past half century we in the west have assumed that we set the pace and we set the global agenda. Well now we must wake up to a new reality. We have to share global leadership with India, and with China".



"And we must recognise that India has established beyond argument, through its economic and political success, its right to a seat at the top table. India, one of the great civilisations of the world, is truly great again". http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India...954167.cms

[Guest]

[url="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/81a03be0-7ac0-11df-8549-00144feabdc0.html"]Medvedev sees chance for new world order[/url]

[Capt M Kumar]

Only last month she said she was more likely to become a football star than replace her boss. But in a brutally efficient move driven by bad opinion polls and the approach of a general election, the Labor party dumped Prime Minister Kevin Rudd for his 48-year-old deputy. On Thursday Gillard was sworn in.



At a news conference that capped one of the most abrupt transitions in Australia's often-bruising political history, Gillard said she accepted the job "with the greatest humility, resolve and enthusiasm." She immediately sought to refocus attention on the popular decisions of the government in which she served for the past 2 1/2 years, while distancing herself from mistakes attributed to Rudd. http://news.in.msn.com/international/art...386&page=3

[Guest]

[url="http://www.breitbart.tv/nasa-chief-obama-wanted-me-to-make-muslims-feel-good/"]NASA CHIEF: OBAMA WANTED ME TO MAKE MUSLIMS FEEL GOOD[/url]



Here comes re-run of New World Order by popping up Muslims

[HareKrishna]

Israel loses Turkey, gains Greece as strategic partner



DEBKAfile DEBKA-Net-Weekly July 4, 2010, 11:09 PM (GMT+02:00)







Israel has finally moved on from its fractured relationship with Turkey - notwithstanding the impression conveyed by some US and Israeli circles that the damage is not beyond repair. This week, the Israeli Minister of Trade and Labor Minister, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer made last-ditch bid to save the relationship by initiating a meeting in Zurich with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutolu. It went badly and was hotly debated at the Israeli cabinet meeting Sunday, July 4. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said he thought it was worth a try, but most ministers said that given Ankara's harsh hostility, it should never have taken place. Meanwhile, as Western and Turkish media outlets harped on Israel's loss of its only Muslim ally in the Middle East, Jerusalem was busy acquiring a new strategic partner: Greece, a NATO member like Turkey with plenty of Middle East interests, has shown interest in stepping into Turkey's shoes and investing in stronger military and intelligence ties. DEBKA-Net-Weekly 450 reported on June 25 from sources in Athens and Jerusalem that this development was not so much planned in Jerusalem as initiated by Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou, who boasts many Jewish and Israeli friends and business contacts, some of whom hold high political and intelligence positions in Israel. He saw Athens' chance to slot into Ankara's place in Jerusalem and transform their present diplomatic, economic, military and intelligence ties into a thriving strategic alliance, that would carry the same advantages to both sides as did Israel's former relations with Turkey. According to some sources, Papandreou also hopes this alliance will help ease some of his country's financial woes. But most of all, he is looking to Israel for help in speeding the upgrade of his armed forces and helping transform them into the Christian mainstay of NATO in the Balkans and southern Europe - in place of the Muslim Turkish army. This notion was not the direct outcome of Israel's break with Turkey or the clash aboard the Turkish Mavi Marmara on May 31 between Israeli commandos and pro-Palestinian Turkish activists. It has been evolving for some time, first broached in the summer of 2008 when Papandreou allowed 100 Israeli F-15 and F-16 fighter-bombers to pass through Greek Mediterranean air space for practicing long flights and in-flight fueling. The distance between Israel and Greece there and back is 1,900 kilometers, identical to the distance between Israel and Iran. The Greek prime minister went out of his way to be of assistance, making available to the Israeli Air Force the crews and advanced S-300 PMU1interceptor missile batteries Athens purchased from Russia back in 2000. They were allowed to practice bombing sorties against these batteries, in case Moscow decided to sell them to Iran and Syria. The severe financial crisis besetting Greece this year enhanced the friendly ties between Athens and Jerusalem. While European Union countries spent long months discussing whether to bail Greece out and save it from collapse (eventually granting a €110 billion package), Papandreou turned to Jewish financial titans in Europe and the United States for help to keep the Greek economy afloat.

http://www.debka.com/article/8891/

[Capt M Kumar]

Also on July 15, Spiegel Online carried a similar story titled, ‘A Quiet Axis Forms Against Iran in the Middle East’, by Alexander Smoltczyk and Bernhard Zand, who claimed that Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were urging the US to attack Iran, regardless of the consequences. Critics believe the temptation for Mr Obama to attack Iran will increase as the war in Afghanistan falters. Iraq is already brimming with sectarian violence. A new front in Iran offers the promise (or mirage) of a victorious war against a defiant Muslim country and gives Mr Obama a chance to retain both Houses of Congress (or so it is hoped).

http://www.dailypioneer.com/270366/On-th...chaos.html

[HareKrishna]

My ideas for a better world:

-the elimination of tribalistic primitive notion of nation or state.

-separation of religion from politic

-individual replacement of religion whit the scientific study and research of spirituality.

-elimination of poverty

-the education of civic spirit in schools.

[Capt M Kumar]

लंदन।। ब्रिटेन ने अपने देश के लोगों को 2012 के ओलिंपिक खेलों के दौरान भारत से आने वाले टूरिस्ट्स को न छूने और उनके बहुत करीब न जाने की सलाह दी है। http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/art...299302.cms



ब्रिटेन की टूरिस्ट एजेंसी ने ओलिंपिक के दौरान 'क्या करें और क्या न करें' की एक लिस्ट तैयार की है। इसमें ब्रिटेन के लोगों को यह सलाह दी गई है। min translation: Britain's agency has asked it's official to maintain distance from Indians on 1st meet otherwise it might offend Indians. All this is part of 'dos and don'ts list' on Olympics to be held in Britain in 2012.