http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...-says.html
Quote:Eunuch regiment needed to protect Indian borders, minister says
A regiment of eunuchs should be established to guard India's borders and leading politicians, a state minister said on Tuesday, citing their "loyalty and integrity".
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Check wikileak on India
Indian Army Doctrine-part1 2004
Indian Army Doctrine-part2 2004
Indian Army Doctrine-part3 2004
Some food for thought:
http://www.business-standard.com/india/n...ge/402541/
BTW, why doesn't the DRDO add terminal guidance to the Pinaka? Surely, an RF or optical terminal guidance seeker would greatly enhance the weapons capability. Any thoughts???
Story of a follow up to Pinaka - MLRS with range between 75-100 Kms and having terminal guidance:
http://www.indian-military.org/tag/multi...chers.html
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[quote name='Mudy' date='27 July 2010 - 05:06 PM' timestamp='1280249925' post='107641']
Check wikileak on India
Indian Army Doctrine-part1 2004
Indian Army Doctrine-part2 2004
Indian Army Doctrine-part3 2004
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Can you kindly post the text? Thanks, ramana
To understand what the word 'freedom' means to us in the 63rd year of our Independence, we conducted face-to-face interviews with 500 people in Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore, Kolkata and Chennai. Here are the findings:
In a telling indicator of our troubled times, India sees the security forces as the institution that safeguards our freedom the most.
Read more: Security forces, media, 2 pillars of freedom: Poll - Special Report - Sunday TOI - Home - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/...z0wcIljDax
08-15-2010, 03:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-15-2010, 04:14 PM by BlessedAgni.)
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but here goes:
Accordiing to DRDO's [url="http://www.drdo.gov.in/"]new site[/url], it Built INS Chakra, M1 Abrams Tank, Arrow Missile System.
The flash slideshow, shows that the DRDO also builds the American M1 Abrams tank and Israeli Arrow ABM system, while some DRDO babu has put the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WW2_Iwo_Jima_flag_raising.jpg"]Indian tricolour on the iconic World War-2 photograph of the US victory in the Battle of Iwo Jima[/url]. Did they not have an image of indian soldiers raising the tricolour at Tiger hill?
The fact that they have photoshopped the indian flag shows that none of the abov eare "mistakes", but rather deliberate.
How pathetic. This is the state of our PSUs, where they arent even proud to put their own products on show but would rather show someone elses. No wonder the armed forces buy from abroad, all the indian equipment is rubbish(army's claim of Arjun tank), takes years to fructify (LCA,saras,IJT etc etc) or is just low quality (Dhruv)
Shame!
[quote name='BlessedAgni' date='15 August 2010 - 02:32 AM' timestamp='1281867853' post='107902']
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but here goes:
Accordiing to DRDO's [url="http://www.drdo.gov.in/"]new site[/url], it Built INS Chakra, M1 Abrams Tank, Arrow Missile System.
The flash slideshow, shows that the DRDO also builds the American M1 Abrams tank and Israeli Arrow ABM system, while some DRDO babu has put the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima#Raising_the_first_flag"]Indian tricolour on the iconic World War-2 photograph of the US victory in the Battle of Iwo Jima[/url]. Did they not have an image of indian soldiers raising the tricolour at Tiger hill?
The fact that they have photoshopped the indian flag shows that none of the abov eare "mistakes", but rather deliberate.
How pathetic. This is the state of our PSUs, where they arent even proud to put their own products on show but would rather show someone elses. No wonder the armed forces buy from abroad, all the indian equipment is rubbish(army's claim of Arjun tank), takes years to fructify (LCA,saras,IJT etc etc) or is just low quality (Dhruv)
Shame!
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Surely the DRDO knows what tanks and missiles it has developed, and they're also aware of the equally iconic Tiger Hill photograph. I have no proof, but have you considered that this is part of a psy-ops by persons ("moles") in high places to deliberately paint DRDO in poor light? This isn't the first time such "psy-ops hit jobs" have been done.
[quote name='qubit' date='15 August 2010 - 11:54 AM' timestamp='1281869207' post='107903']
Surely the DRDO knows what tanks and missiles it has developed, and they're also aware of the equally iconic Tiger Hill photograph. I have no proof, but have you considered that this is part of a psy-ops by persons ("moles") in high places to deliberately paint DRDO in poor light? This isn't the first time such "psy-ops hit jobs" have been done.
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Not really. There have been loads of such gaffs. For instance, they had the [url="http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/06/super-hornet-springs-up-in-aeroindia.html"]F18 on the AeroIndia 2011 brochure[/url]
After complaints, they changed it and [url="http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/07/dhruv-tejas-replaces-hornet-in.html"]replaced it with LCA and Dhruv[/url]
I think it reflects the mental attitude as they dont have pride in their work. Why else would it take 30 years to build an aircraft which barely meets the requirements of the IAF.
PSUs are a waste of money!
[quote name='BlessedAgni' date='15 August 2010 - 09:05 AM' timestamp='1281891477' post='107908']
Not really. There have been loads of such gaffs. For instance, they had the [url="http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/06/super-hornet-springs-up-in-aeroindia.html"]F18 on the AeroIndia 2011 brochure[/url]
After complaints, they changed it and [url="http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/07/dhruv-tejas-replaces-hornet-in.html"]replaced it with LCA and Dhruv[/url]
I think it reflects the mental attitude as they dont have pride in their work. Why else would it take 30 years to build an aircraft which barely meets the requirements of the IAF.
PSUs are a waste of money!
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True! This is in all possibility the overwhelming reason.
[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/newdelhi/Three-Indian-soldiers-killed-in-rebels-attack-in-Congo/Article1-588538.aspx"] Three Indian soldiers killed in rebels attack in Congo[/url] Quote:"The incident happened when around 50-60 suspected rebels of militia group 'MAYI-MAYI' attacked the unit base in Kirumba province in Congo around 0150 hours Congo Standard Time today," they added.
While a small group of four to five members distracted the guard on duty by striking a conversation with him, the remaining members of the rebel group attacked the periphery of the post from the surrounding jungle, officials said.
After five minutes of attack, the rebels fled into the forest, taking advantage of darkness, they said.
The 19 Kumaon Regiment has been deployed in Congo since February this year.
With over 3,500 soldiers deployed under the 301 Infantry Brigade Group, India has the largest contingent of troops as part of the UN peacekeeping force MONUSCO in Congo.
Army chief General V K Singh on Friday said that the Army had no role in deciding on the continuance of the contentio us Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act in Jammu & Kashmir. "That's for the leadership to decide. The army doesn't decide that," he told reporters in Puducherry. "The issue is under active consideration of the Prime Minister. I think we should wait for political advice," Gen Singh said.
The Army chief was in Puducherry to deliver a lecture on 'India's role in South Asia: Strategic challenges and opportunities in the 21st century' hosted by the Pondicherry University. Singh said the war against terror in Afghanistan had failed to reach a conclusion as the forces in Afghanistan are "crippled by Pakistan's duplicity".
Read more: 'No Army role in decision on special Act' - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india...z0zrFWvESd
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The report has recommended the disbanding of the Directorate General of Defence Estates (DGDE) in its current shape and the transfer of its functions, activities and expert manpower to the land directorates of the Service headquarters, DRDO and MoD because of its "negligible and negative" role in managing the defence land. It stated that land outside cantonments was ``not being utilized for defence purposes" and called for an immediate inquiry to ascertain how the land was being used. So far, there has been no comprehensive internal audit on land utilization by the defence accounts department.
I think this is need of the hour to free Armed Forces of land scams.
US to support India's full membership in Nuclear Suppliers Group
Quote:PTI / Saturday, November 6, 2010 22:42 IST In a significant announcement during President Barack Obama's visit, the US today said it will support India's full membership in the 45-member Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) and three other multilateral export control regimes.
Part of its series of changes to the export control system as it applies to India, the US will support India's full membership in the four multilateral export control regimes which will make it easier for India to get dual-use technology from member countries though it is subject to rules of individual nations.
"These are the NSG-- what is called Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR)-- the Missile Technology Control Regime, the Australian Group and the Wassanaar Arrangement," Mike Froman, deputy national security adviser for International Economic Affairs, said in a statement.
It will also provide India with a say in framing export control rules.
The indication of the US' move came in visiting President Barack Obama's speech to the business community where he spoke about his plans to reform export controls.
These are groups of multilateral, dual use export control clubs. The Australia Group deals with chemical and biological weapons, and Wassenaar deals with conventional weapons and dual use technology in it.
"Now, this membership will come in a phased manner. And we will consult with our regime members to encourage the evolution of a membership criteria of these regimes consistent with maintaining their core principles.
"So as the membership criteria of these four regimes evolves, we intend to support India's full membership in them. And at the same time, India will take steps to fully adopt the regime's export control requirements to reflect its prospective membership," Forman goes on to say recognising, "the nature of the strategic relationship we now have with India."
Three Indian entities -- Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Indian Space Research (ISR0) and the Hyderabad-headquartered Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) -- will be taken off embargoed list.
"The second element of the export control reform package being announced is that we will remove India's defense and space-related entities from the US entity list.The entity list at one point had, I believe, 220 Indian entities on it.[color="#9932cc"] And there are only four left. And today we will be announcing a removal of three of them[/color]," the US statement said.
"And now removing these entities from the entity list will aloow for greater trade and cooperation in civilian space and defence, and enable our governments to focus on other outstanding barriers that hinder expanded bilateral high-tech trade. And this a very significant step forward," the statement said.
URL of the article: http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_us...463153-all
[url="http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article871148.ece%20"]U.S., India ââ¬Ëconstructing paradigm beyond the NPT'[/url]
Quote:Siddharth Varadarajan
T+  Ã·  T- In committing itself to supporting India's full membership in the Nuclear Suppliers Group and other multilateral export control regimes, the Obama administration has finally opened a door for the country to transcend the legal confines of a treaty that has defined global attitudes towards nuclear weapons for over four decades: the NPT.
The American decision to support India's membership in the NSG, the Missile Technology Control Regime, the Australian Group and the Wassenaar Arrangement was made public on Saturday by Deputy National Security Adviser Mike Froman and is conditional on these clubs deciding, by consensus, to change their rules on who can join.
ââ¬ÅAs the membership criteria of these four regimes evolve,ââ¬Â said Mr. Froman, ââ¬Åwe intend to support India's full membership in them. And at the same time, India will take steps to fully adopt the regime's export control requirements to reflect its prospective membership.ââ¬Â
The current membership rules of the NSG, though not formally stated, require adherence to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty or a regional nuclear weapons free zone (which in turn requires NPT membership). And the same treaty requirement applies in the case of the MTCR and the Wassenaar Arrangement ââ¬â a cartel of 40 states which governs the export of conventional weapons and dual-use goods and technologies. But Mr. Froman said the U.S. would ââ¬Åencourage the evolution of a membership criteria of these regimes consistent with maintaining their core principles.ââ¬Â
Asked how the United States and India hoped to square the circle of compulsory membership of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that the NSG and other cartels insist on, a senior Indian official told The Hindu: ââ¬ÅWe are constructing a paradigm beyond the NPT.ââ¬Â
Though President Barack Obama and his senior officials had upset India over the past year by signing on to calls at the United Nations and elsewhere for the universality of the NPT, Washington is acutely aware that India's accession to a treaty which would require it to give up its nuclear weapons is an impossibility. It is in this light that Mr. Froman's reference to new membership criteria acquires enormous significance.
The Bush administration's initiatives from 2005 to 2008 saw the U.S. helping to peel away export restrictions that were never originally a part of the NPT itself. That is why the NSG was able to give India an exemption from its export restrictions without getting into the trickier issue of what India's legal status in relation to the treaty actually was. But with NSG membership essentially tied to the NPT, any new joining criteria will effectively establish for nuclear-armed India ââ¬â in clearer legal terms than anything else so far has done ââ¬â a parallel status equivalent to that of the five nuclear weapons states which are part of the NPT.
Apart from easing Indian access to sensitive high technology items, membership of these clubs ââ¬â ââ¬Åwhich will come in a phased mannerââ¬Â ââ¬â will give New Delhi a say in their rule-making process. Under the terms of the NSG's 2008 waiver, India is today in the anomalous position of being obligated to abide by future guidelines that NSG and even MTCR members may adopt without being part of their formal decision-making process.
The MTCR deals the export of missiles with a range greater than 300 kilometres while the Australian Group regulates the export of materials that could be used for manufacturing chemical and biological weapons.
[url="http://sify.com/finance/germany-offers-india-joint-defence-production-for-third-party-sale-news-default-kmgwatfidje.html"]Germany offers India joint defence production for third-party sale[/url]
Quote:Beheaded jawans cremated in a hurry
August 07, 2011 1:22:34 AM
[url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/359064/Beheaded-jawans-cremated-in-a-hurry.html"] link[/url]
Srinagar/Dehradun/ Haldwani
Reporters: Khursheed Wani/Sunil Kumar/ Rajendra Markuna
Militants didnââ¬â¢t mutilate, says Army; doesnââ¬â¢t let families see bodies
Two badly mutilated bodies of soldiers have raised passion in the rank and file of the Army against heavily-armed infiltrators who have increased frequency of attempts to sneak into the Kashmir valley to perpetuate acts of violence.
[size="6"]The Army says that the bodies were mutilated in a fierce gunfight in Farkian Gali sector of Kupwara on July 30. But some reports claim that the infiltrators caught hold of the soldiers of the Kumaon Regiment, beheaded them and took away their heads as war trophies before badly mutilating the bodies. [/size]The infiltrator group hasnââ¬â¢t been identified so far, sources maintained.
The family members of Hawaldar Jaipal Singh Adhikari and Lance Naik Devender Singh, whose headless bodies were sent to their native places, were not allowed to see the mutilated bodies.
Though Jaipal Singh Adhikariââ¬â¢s family members were inconsolable when his completely wrapped body was brought here by the Army, none knew that there was more to the version handed out to them ââ¬â that Adhikari was killed in a grenade blast.
With the information of militants having beheaded two Army jawans in Kupwara region, where Adhikari was posted, trickling in, questions are being asked if Adhikari was one of them. Thirty six-year-old Adhikari was a native of Asgola village, Dwarahat in Almora. He joined the Army in 1994. Jaipalââ¬â¢s family including his wife Beena and two children had recently shifted to Himmatpur, Talla, Haldwani. He was about to join his family in August.
Pushpesh Tripathi, MLA from Dwarahat, who was present during the cremation, told The Pioneer that the ââ¬Ëbodyââ¬â¢ which was brought in the casket did not even have limbs.
ââ¬ÅArmy authorities told the martyrââ¬â¢s father about the unfortunate death and took his permission for token cremation, which was done with full State honours,ââ¬Â said Tripathi.
The defence spokesman claimed that four infiltrators were also shot down while they tried to escape into Pakistan, their bodies were spotted on the other side of LoC but they could not be retrieved by the Army.
ââ¬ÅThe entire group of infiltrators has been pushed back and their bid foiled,ââ¬Â the spokesman claimed. However, sources said the infiltrators had enough time to catch hold of the soldiers and mutilate their bodies.
Defence spokesman Lt Col Jagmohan Singh Brar conceded that the bodies were badly mutilated but denied the claim that they were beheaded and heads taken away as war trophies by the militants.
ââ¬ÅThere was a fierce gun-battle at the LoC in which two soldiers died on the spot while another critically injured soldier, who was evacuated to 92 Base Hospital, succumbed later,ââ¬Â he said. ââ¬ÅWhen a soldier receives a full burst of fire from an automatic weapon, everyone knows what happens to the body,ââ¬Â he said, explaining the gory state of the bodies.
Brar said that the frequency of infiltration bids had increased during past two weeks as infiltrators were making efforts to enter the Valley before the onset of winter season. Defence sources said July and August are the choicest months for infiltrators to redouble their efforts to infiltrate as the mountain passes have least or zero accumulation of snow.
Army says that it is fully geared up to face the challenge of infiltration. Earlier this week, Army Chief Gen VK Singh along-with Northern Commander Lt Gen Parnaik and Chinar Corps Commander Lt Gen Syed Atta Hasnain visited forward posts to check preparedness to block the ingress of heavily-armed militants.
Sources said the Army has launched a massive combing operation along the Line of Control in the twin border districts of Kupwara and Baramulla following reports of fresh infiltration bids by militants in smaller groups. Sources said around 50 infiltrators sneaked in during past two weeks and the Army is trying to engage and eliminate them in areas closer to the LoC.
The latest two infiltration bids were made on August 5 but the Army foiled them at the cost of death of a jawan in Kupwara. During the two weeks, amid enhanced frequency of infiltration attempts, four infiltrators and five soldiers including a junior officer were killed.
Relatives and other locals joined the Adhikari family in mourning the death of the Uttarakhand native as did military personnel, representatives from the local administrative and social activists.
Bruised martyrdom
Some reports claim that infiltrators caught hold of two soldiers of the Kumaon Regiment, beheaded them and took away their heads as war trophies before badly mutilating the bodies.
Army says the bodies were mutilated in a fierce gunfight in Farkian Gali sector of Kupwara on July 30.
Defence spokesman claims that four infiltrators were also shot down while they tried to escape into Pakistan; their bodies were spotted on the other side of the LoC but they could not be retrieved by the Army.
Dwarahat MLA Pushpesh Tripathi, who was present during the cremation, told The Pioneer that the ââ¬Ëbodyââ¬â¢ which was brought in the casket did not even have limbs.
[quote name='Mudy' date='06 December 2010 - 11:30 PM' timestamp='1291657970' post='109692']
[url="http://sify.com/finance/germany-offers-india-joint-defence-production-for-third-party-sale-news-default-kmgwatfidje.html"]Germany offers India joint defence production for third-party sale[/url]
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Germany try to make an alliance whit Russia.
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