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The Real Indian IQ
[quote name='Krishna' date='11 October 2010 - 08:25 AM' timestamp='1286765274' post='108789']

I got IQ scores anything from 125 to 141 in the many free tests i took in the last few years. Not sure what to make out of this wide variation!

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if you dont know what to do whit your score then maybe you dont have the iq you claim to have <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' /> joke





until my age of 1 year i had blond hair and blue eyes.

then until age 5 i had curly hair and brown eyes.

then my hair go flat.

so i fit in any jew category.
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[quote name='HareKrishna' date='11 October 2010 - 09:38 PM' timestamp='1286812801' post='108810']

if you dont know what to do whit your score then maybe you dont have the iq you claim to have <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' /> joke



until my age of 1 year i had blond hair and blue eyes.

then until age 5 i had curly hair and brown eyes.

then my hair go flat.

so i fit in any jew category.

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Well I did not say that i did not know what to do with my IQ score, i said I was only puzzled with the wide variation. One of the reasons obviously is that these tests are not standardized and the scores probably very inflated ( and thus make it attractive for the test takers may be) .
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That's very true.

Probably a good iq test is the mensa test.
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There was a recent article 'India Shining - Bharat Drowning' that compared Orissa and Rajasthan vs the rest of the world

On average, Orissa and Rajasthan score at the level of Iran, Egypt, Mexico

However there is a huge variation,



The 90th percentile for Orissa and Rajasthan , which may be a proxy for North-Indian Brahmin, score at the 75th percentile for white countries ( 110 IQ )
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Four Indian American students are among 32 US citizens awarded the prestigious Rhodes Scholarships for all-expense-paid study at the University of Oxford in England starting October 2011.
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Averaged country rank in IMO





2.28 USSR

3.04 China

3.05 Russia

3.61 USA

4.00 Commonwealth of Independent States

5.07 E Germany

6.44 Hungary

6.53 Romania

7.76 Bulgaria

8.18 Czechoslovakia

8.82 Vietnam

9.55 Germany

10.65 S Korea

10.84 Taiwan

11.00 Japan

11.00 N Korea

11.80 Iran

11.88 UK

13.51 Yugoslavia

14.39 Ukraine

14.44 Poland

17.83 Canada

18.78 Belarus

18.83 Australia

19.07 France

19.18 India

20.19 Turkey

22.60 Serbia

22.69 Israel

24.04 Hong Kong

27.49 Mongolia

27.52 Singapore

27.53 Austria

27.67 Serbia and Montenegro

28.00 Brazil

28.35 Kazakhstan

28.55 Thailand

28.74 Italy

28.74 Sweden

29.56 Slovakia

30.43 Netherlands

31.78 Czech Republic

32.91 Greece

33.89 Georgia

34.00 Colombia

34.27 Argentina

35.56 Belgium

37.39 Croatia

38.00 Finland

38.94 Moldova

40.81 Cuba

41.00 Nicaragua

41.44 Mexico

41.78 Armenia

42.59 Peru

43.47 South Africa

43.78 Latvia

44.00 Uzbekistan

44.89 Norway

45.30 New Zealand

45.62 Algeria

46.25 Spain

46.56 Lithuania

46.75 Morocco

47.06 Macedonia (FYROM)

49.37 Tunisia

49.50 Switzerland

52.56 Slovenia

52.88 Azerbaijan

52.95 Indonesia

53.28 Bosnia and Herzegovina

53.44 Estonia

54.33 Bahrain

54.95 Denmark

56.04 Luxembourg

56.88 Cyprus

57.20 Macau

59.08 Iceland

60.61 Ireland

60.62 Turkmenistan

61.09 Portugal

65.00 Tajikistan

65.05 Trinidad and Tobago

65.82 Philippines

66.46 Kuwait

67.00 N Cyprus (Turkish Republic of)

67.06 Malaysia

68.13 Albania

68.17 Kyrgyzstan

69.00 Ivory Coast

69.20 Sri Lanka

69.76 Venezuela

70.17 Costa Rica

70.29 Chile

71.62 Uruguay

73.00 Panama

74.50 Bangladesh

75.00 Ecuador

79.83 El Salvador

79.92 Paraguay

80.09 Puerto Rico

80.50 Cambodia

81.00 Brunei

81.60 Pakistan

82.89 Guatemala

85.00 Saudi Arabia

85.75 Nigeria

86.00 Honduras

87.00 Montenegro

87.20 Liechtenstein

87.33 Mozambique

90.00 Bolivia

91.00 Syria

98.00 Mauritania

98.00 United Arab Emirates

100.00 Zimbabwe

101.00 Benin
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Averaged country rank in IMO





2.28 USSR

3.04 China

3.05 Russia

3.61 USA

4.00 Commonwealth of Independent States

5.07 E Germany

6.44 Hungary

6.53 Romania

7.76 Bulgaria

8.18 Czechoslovakia

8.82 Vietnam

9.55 Germany

10.65 S Korea

10.84 Taiwan

11.00 Japan

11.00 N Korea

11.80 Iran

11.88 UK

13.51 Yugoslavia

14.39 Ukraine

14.44 Poland

17.83 Canada

18.78 Belarus

18.83 Australia

19.07 France

19.18 India

20.19 Turkey

22.60 Serbia

22.69 Israel

24.04 Hong Kong

27.49 Mongolia

27.52 Singapore

27.53 Austria

27.67 Serbia and Montenegro

28.00 Brazil

28.35 Kazakhstan

28.55 Thailand

28.74 Italy

28.74 Sweden

29.56 Slovakia

30.43 Netherlands

31.78 Czech Republic

32.91 Greece

33.89 Georgia

34.00 Colombia

34.27 Argentina

35.56 Belgium

37.39 Croatia

38.00 Finland

38.94 Moldova

40.81 Cuba

41.00 Nicaragua

41.44 Mexico

41.78 Armenia

42.59 Peru

43.47 South Africa

43.78 Latvia

44.00 Uzbekistan

44.89 Norway

45.30 New Zealand

45.62 Algeria

46.25 Spain

46.56 Lithuania

46.75 Morocco

47.06 Macedonia (FYROM)

49.37 Tunisia

49.50 Switzerland

52.56 Slovenia

52.88 Azerbaijan

52.95 Indonesia

53.28 Bosnia and Herzegovina

53.44 Estonia

54.33 Bahrain

54.95 Denmark

56.04 Luxembourg

56.88 Cyprus

57.20 Macau

59.08 Iceland

60.61 Ireland

60.62 Turkmenistan

61.09 Portugal

65.00 Tajikistan

65.05 Trinidad and Tobago

65.82 Philippines

66.46 Kuwait

67.00 N Cyprus (Turkish Republic of)

67.06 Malaysia

68.13 Albania

68.17 Kyrgyzstan

69.00 Ivory Coast

69.20 Sri Lanka

69.76 Venezuela

70.17 Costa Rica

70.29 Chile

71.62 Uruguay

73.00 Panama

74.50 Bangladesh

75.00 Ecuador

79.83 El Salvador

79.92 Paraguay

80.09 Puerto Rico

80.50 Cambodia

81.00 Brunei

81.60 Pakistan

82.89 Guatemala

85.00 Saudi Arabia

85.75 Nigeria

86.00 Honduras

87.00 Montenegro

87.20 Liechtenstein

87.33 Mozambique

90.00 Bolivia

91.00 Syria

98.00 Mauritania

98.00 United Arab Emirates

100.00 Zimbabwe

101.00 Benin
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what is IMO ?
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[quote name='HareKrishna' date='25 November 2010 - 08:02 AM' timestamp='1290651844' post='109448']

what is IMO ?

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International Math Olympiad



Indian performance on the far right IQ tail, +4SD is very good, better than most west europeans and even better than Israel.
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i have doubts that Olympics show necessarily the iq.

It shows the memorization capacity ? the ambition to learn ? the specific math skills ? the bell curve of IQ of a country ?
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A Possible Explanation for the Flynn Effect

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/webl...nn_effect/
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2011 Nat Geographic bee, out of 54 State Finalists



11 Hindus, 4 orientals, 1 black, 38 whites



Runner up is Hindu
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2011 Intel Science Talent of 40 finalists, 9 are Hindus



1 Agarwal ( bania )

1 Arora ( Khatri )

1 Atolia ( what caste ? )

1 Joardar ( bengali Kayastha )

1 Mahajan ( Maharashtrian Brahmin )

1 Mukhopadhyaya ( bengali brahmin )

1 Pai ( Konkan brahmin )

1 Parthasarathy ( Iyengar )

1 Saha ( bengali kayastha )
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Arora's are not Khatri's but a different jati though similar to the Khatri's.
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[quote name='Bharatvarsh2' date='02 June 2011 - 02:02 AM' timestamp='1306959890' post='111761']

Arora's are not Khatri's but a different jati though similar to the Khatri's.

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Perhaps someone like Mudy can clarify the difference



IMHO, Arora is a Khatri sub-caste
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2011 Spelling bee finalists - 15 out of 41 are Hindus



Snigdha Nandipati - Andhra brahmin



Dhivya Senthil Murugan - Tamil Velala



Stuti Mishra - UP Brahmin



Pranav Sivakuma - Iyer



Surjo Bandhopadhyay - Bengali Brahmin



Surabhi Iyer - Iyer



Siddharth Varanasi - Iyer



Sriram Hathwar - Kannadiga Brahmin



Arvind Mahankali - Telegu Brahmin



Prakash Mishra - UP brahmin



Sukhanya Roy - Bengali brahmin



Chetan Reddy - Reddy



Narahari Bharadwaj - SIB



Anahita Iyer - Iyer



Mashad Arora - Khatri ( His fathers name is Raj, despite the semi-islamic name of Mashad )
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news...566660.cms



IIT Result 2011: 24 of Bihar's Super 30 crack IIT-JEE this year



To get admission into super-30, there is a 3 layers of IQ tests and 1 in 1000 gets admitted



So there is a very severe IQ screening, 1 in 1000 means 3 SD ( 45 IQ ) above mean for OBC

With Indian level malnutrition, OBC IQ in India is 85 and 3 SD above means a filter of 130 IQ ( mensa level )

And 2 years of intensive coaching



-- One of the founders quit and very masochistically started Rahman 30 for muslims



- Dharmically Super 30 is the correct way to give reservations for OBC / SC-ST
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http://ibnlive.in.com/news/getting-into-...0-118.html



While last year, an aspirant with a JEE score of 190 was eligible for admission into the IITs under the general category, the cut-off has increased to 229 marks.

For the OBC students, the overall cut-off has increased from 171 to 207 and in the case of SC/ST and physically disabled (PD) students the cut-off has gone up from 95 (same for all) to 119 for SCs, and 115 for STs and PD category aspirants.
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https://mathcounts.org/Page.aspx?pid=1872



In MathCounts, in the top 10, there are only 3 Indian-origins. Rest is filled with Asian kids and one Polish-Jewish kid. Zach Polansky sounds Polish and Jewish, no?
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At the extreme right end of the math iq curves, very few Indians can compete against the Hans except for Brahmins and a handful of khatris and jains.

In the url above, all 3 Indians are SIB



In stuff like Spelling bee, many castes, from Vokkaliga upward can outcompete the Han, in math oriented stuff, only a handful of Dwija castes can compete with the Han



In the US math Olympiad team, several Indians have gotten in, but all are Brahmin
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