[color="#FF0000"]On their own, the Congress and its UPA allies represented in the government account for 259 seats in Lok Sabha and 91 in Rajya Sabha. Their majority in Lok Sabha is made up by parties extending outside support like the SP, BSP and RJD.[/color][size="5"][/size]
Back of the envelope calculations -- the government did so in a bid to get Parliament to function -- showed that in a 30-member JPC, the Congress along with UPA constituents in the government would get only 14 members.
http://news.in.msn.com/national/article....182&page=2
Politicsparty guy is claiming MMS on way out due to the Lalli case.
However he has said many times the above conclusions!
http://www.politicsparty.com/manmohan_macbeth.php
At a minimum there is coterie in INC that wants MMS to go and keep trying to link him to all the INC corruption cases.
MMS is not going anywhere, he had his son-in-law placed in very secure place, who can keep track on Queen and Baba. Any INC coterie should also worry.
Radia leaks are no coincidence, infact well orchestrated drama to keep Cooperate, Queen and Baba in right place.
Digvijay Singh trying to get RSS and Hindu terror into the debate to break opposition unity. This guy is pathetic.
[url="http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-im-worried-about-future-of-parliamentary-system-says-dr-singh/20101211.htm"]I'm worried about future of Parliamentary system: Dr Singh[/url]
Here is appointed PM of India hates, checks and balance in Indian System.
Moron Singh.
New Delhi, Dec 11: In yet another set back to the ruling Congress party, insult came calling from WikiLeaks as well. A new set of revelations from the whistle blower website has said that former US Ambassador to India David Mulford said that Congress will stoop to playing caste/religious-based politics in its own interest.
The response came soon after the then Minority Affairs Minister AR Antulay said that the death of ATS Chief Hemant Karkare may not have been due to the 26/11 attacks. But might be due to his probe into the Malegaon blast contrary to widely believed among the public. Karkare was responsible for the arrest of the accused Sadhvi Pragya Thakur and Indian Army officer, Lt. Col. Shrikant Prasad Purohit, who were part of Hindu extremist groups. http://news.oneindia.in/2010/12/11/wikil...itics.html
Today I am not willing to say with any element of certainty or confidence that the next general election will be held in 2014.
-BJP leader Arun Jaitley
What is happening in Harayana? Polyticsparty is saying, another Cong. state Govt may topple.
[url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/302971/Digvijay-Singh-does-what-Islamists-do!.html"]Digvijay Singh does what Islamists do![/url]
Kanchan Gupta
Quote:Controverting facts is integral to the negationism practiced by Islamists. A lie is repeated a million times so that the faithful, and those who are held in thraldom by bogus political correctness, come to believe the lie as the truth. Itââ¬â¢s not for nothing that the forerunners of todayââ¬â¢s radical Islamism, which is manifested in horrendous bloodletting in the name of Islam, were eager to make common cause with the Nazis. It wasnââ¬â¢t just hatred towards Jews that attracted them to Adolf Hitler and his supremacists in jackboots and with twisted minds. They were clever enough to sense potential in the art of Goebbelsian propaganda which over the decades has become one of the mainstays of Islamism. Recall the campaign that was mounted after Mohammed Atta and his fellow terrorists struck terror in the heart of America on 9/11. Despite the mountain of evidence, the incontrovertible proof, the fact that a stunned world watched in horror as Mohammed Atta flew a hijacked airliner into one of the World Trade Center towers, the televised sight of the buildings imploding in a billowing cloud of dust, the ummah was told by the Islamists that it was all hocus-pocus, that it was a Jewish conspiracy to malign Muslims, that nothing happened on 9/11, leave alone 2,977 innocent people dying in that catastrophic assault on humanity. I am not referring to crass propaganda meant to persuade the illiterate and the ill-informed. At an international conference attended by scholars and writers in which I participated, a senior professor of Aligarh Muslim University insisted 9/11 was no more than a fantastic film shot in a Hollywood studio with toy planes and clapboard sets.
Similarly, even before Mumbaiââ¬â¢s night of horror on 26/11 was over, Islamist websites were proclaiming that it had been stage-managed by Israel, that it was a Hindu-Jewish-Christian conspiracy aimed at defaming Muslims and tarnishing the fair name of Islam, ââ¬Åthe religion of peaceââ¬Â. The Muslim Brotherhoodââ¬â¢s website, www.ikhwanweb.com, had an article on its home page which said, ââ¬ÅIt is clear that Mossad is involved in the whole affair. An entire city has been attacked by Mossad and probably units of mercenaries (sic). It is not possible for one single organisation to plan and execute such a sophisticated operation.ââ¬Â Tragically, that story had been penned by a ââ¬Ësecular activist-historianââ¬â¢, a certain Amaresh Misra, lending credence to the Islamist bunkum.
It is not surprising that the refrain should have been picked up by the Congress. The party used the then Minister for Minority Affairs, Mr AR Antulay, to slyly suggest that there was a ââ¬ËHindu handââ¬â¢ behind the carnage in Mumbai, that it was ââ¬Återrorism plusââ¬Â. The Congress also allowed the then Minister of State for External Affairs and Muslim League leader E Ahamed (he has now found his rightful place as Ms Mamata Banerjeeââ¬â¢s deputy in the Ministry of Railways) to omit all mention of Chabad House, where six Jews, including a rabbi and his pregnant wife, were tortured and killed, while presenting Indiaââ¬â¢s case on 26/11 in the UN Security Council. Neither Prime Minister Manmohan Singh nor his political patron, Ms Sonia Gandhi, bothered to wag a finger in admonition: They saw merit in letting Mr Antulayââ¬â¢s abhorrent allegation and Mr Ahamedââ¬â¢s distorted version go unchallenged and uncorrected as it would help the Congress fish for Muslim votes. Sadly, Muslim organisations did not protest against the slur heaped by Mr Antulay on Hindus to deflect attention from the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba fidayeen who mercilessly slaughtered men, women and children, nor did they object to Mr Ahamedââ¬â¢s abhorrent omission in keeping with the highest traditions of Islamist negationism.
Hence, it is not surprising that Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh, whose proximity to the partyââ¬â¢s first family is well known and who is the de facto mentor of the Prince waiting for the Regent to vacate the throne, should have so crudely insulted the memory of a fallen police officer, Hemant Karkare, who died fighting the terrorists on 26/11, by spinning a yarn about how he was killed not by the LeTââ¬â¢s Pakistani fidayeen but by Hindus. Implicit in his shocking lie is the suggestion that the attack on Mumbai was a ââ¬ËHindu conspiracyââ¬â¢.
It is only natural that Mr Digvijay Singh should have found a soul mate in Amaresh Misra; the two now toil together to keep the tattered and torn flag of ââ¬Ësecularismââ¬â¢ flying. It is also natural that he should have articulated such hideously malignant thoughts while releasing RSS ki Saazish ââ¬â 26/11 (26/11 ââ¬â An RSS Conspiracy), a book authored by Aziz Burney, editor-in-chief of Urdu Sahara, at the taxpayer-funded India Islamic Cultural Centre on December 6. His audience comprised notables like Deputy Chairman of the Rajya Sabha K Rahman Khan, Mr Shoaib Iqbal, Chaudhry Mateen and Mr Asif Mohammed Khan (MLAs from Delhi), Maulana Mahmood Madani from the Deobandi sect, Maulana Touqir Raza Khan from the Barelvi sect and Shia leader Kalbe Jawwad.
He has since elaborated on his thoughts, such as they are, in an interview to the Indian Express published on December 11. Not so curiously Mr Digvijay Singhââ¬â¢s bilious outpouring follows on the heels of the Congress getting wiped out in the Uttar Pradesh panchayat elections, including in Muslim-dominated areas. Speculation on why he said what he did, therefore, is not necessary; the reason is no different from that behind his visits to Azamgarh to commiserate with the families of Indian Mujahideen terrorists arrested for bombing cities across the country, his denigration of Inspector MC Sharma who was killed when he bravely confronted terrorists hiding in Batla House in Delhiââ¬â¢s Jamia Nagar.
Hemant Karkareââ¬â¢s widow, Kavita, who has been extremely dignified in her sorrow which we can only feel but not share, has rubbished Mr Digvijay Singhââ¬â¢s fanciful story, saying itââ¬â¢s ââ¬Åwrong to suggest that Hindu groups were linked to the 26/11 terror attacksââ¬Â. She has put in words what millions of Indians believe: ââ¬ÅSuch statements will mislead people and benefit Pakistan... Mockery of my husbandââ¬â¢s sacrifice for political gain should stop.ââ¬Â
But it wonââ¬â¢t stop. Discredited politicians like Mr Digvijay Singh who seek to keep themselves in the news not through legitimate politics but by taking recourse to illegitimate means of heaping calumny and worse on Hindus in the hope of currying favour with Muslims and thus proving their relevance to their benefactors in the Congress will continue to offend and insult sensitivities. They gloat over their ability to shock and awe with words that are spiteful, venomous words that when strung into sentences add up to outrageous lies. This is not the first time Mr Digvijay Singh has sought to undermine the Governmentââ¬â¢s ââ¬â and the nationââ¬â¢s ââ¬â position and policy; in the past he has publicly denounced the Home Ministryââ¬â¢s approach to tackling the Maoist insurgency. This time he has reduced the Government, headed by the Congress, to a laughing stock: Even while he was giving Pakistani terrorists a clean chit for the Mumbai massacre, Mr Manmohan Singh was pleading with the EU to put pressure on Pakistan for bringing the guilty men of 26/11 to justice. Ironically, the author of RSS ki Saazish ââ¬â 26/11 is a member of the media delegation accompanying the Prime Minister on his European tour, no doubt included to showcase Indiaââ¬â¢s adherence to ââ¬Ësecularismââ¬â¢ on a junket whose bill will be footed by taxpayers. Presumably, now that the most powerful general secretary of the Congress has repudiated Indiaââ¬â¢s stand on 26/11, the Prime Minister will hurriedly eat his own words and toe the newly-laid party line. He knows that it doesnââ¬â¢t pay for a Regent to cavil against the Princeââ¬â¢s mentor.
Wonder if Digvijay Singh is trying to bolster Kasab who is the actual killer of Sri Karkare?
ShikharAggarwal
A suggestion: Every time you talk abt particularly impt national issues,use this 'The Great Indian Nation shackled by the Congress'.
Shiel Dikshit says Home Minister not aware of facts
This is regarding PC claiming crime in Delhi is due to migrants.
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Shiel Dikshit says Home Minister not aware of facts
This is regarding PC claiming crime in Delhi is due to migrants.
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Quote:It was Chidambaram's job as home minister to ensure that Delhi's police force ââ¬â which reports to the home ministry ââ¬â protects the city's residents.
PC is right on this issue. Migrants from Bangladesh, border area of Bangladesh is a major problem in Delhi. They are Congress vote bank. It took years to kick out slum created by them from our area. It took them just months to setup whole slum with all TV antenna and complete lighting system by stolen electricity and open toilet all around well Manicured gardens into manure gardens/park and houses.
When so many interesting things are going I am just not getting time to write stuff with all thoughts in the forums. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' /> I will try to write kacchha.
There are certain questions that needs analysis.
In simple terms why is there a huge talk of mid-term polls? What is the game plan for INC which already has 208 seats to go for a mid term poll? INC is threatening whom if it is just a threat?
To me the following steps happened:
(1) The asscent of Rahul G to PM is ruled out
(2) The politicos especially Chidambaram and Pranab Da thinks it is time to go one up and MMS needs to be shunted out
(3) Raja, CAG reports are opportunities
(4) Chidu was collecting the Radia tapes for a while and he has certain right-wing-elements of the establishment as friends
(5) Pranab Da is a old hand at these stuff. He has the left wingers and old economy friends
(6) The tug of war between Pranab and Chidu is what we are seeing in all aspects while making the 2-Gs in the system as almost ullu-ka-patte
The story so far in the tug-of-war:
(1) Chidu goes for a kill with Telangana declaration. Pranab did not like it and he pulls it back with buying time until the commission report. Chidu is with BJP
(2) Chidu goes full blown against Maoists. Again he is with BJP
(3) Chidu pulls out Radia tapes taking the CAG cue. But he carefully releases involving TATA. Tata is old economy guy and in the Pranab Da camp
(4) Ambanis and Mittals are quite with no comments
(5) Pranab Da releases financial irregularities that occured exactly during Chidu's times. This is to fix Chidu
(6) As though it is not sufficient these folks are competetively exposing one scam after another that has INC hands in it. Food scam is another big one. This is to fix Sharad Pawar and give huge leaverage to Ajit Pawar.
On a different Plane - The Gandhis also wanted a change because solidification of one person makes it difficult and puppet gets its own life.
MMS dimension - MMS has a very good survival instinct. He has more things up his sleeve that will put Gandhis in trouble and also Chidu in trouble. He is quietly passing Telecom scandal money tracks to Subramanium Swamy. He may have sent the details about Chidu's ravages with Ukranian prostitutes etc. as well.
MMS's strategy is very simple. Give a TINA to Gandhis.
But why the threat of Mid-term polls?
I think in these tug-off wars the possibility of Mamta leaving at some point of time is imminent. More she is associated with such huge scams' tainted party and government her future dwindiles. She leaving also helps Pranab Da.
By enraging Jagan and Sharad Pawar and also including too many INC MPs into scams, both PC and Pranab Da are creating a situation for the INC MPs to find different avenues to save their souls and leave the ship. We may be seeing a faction that is inclined to go in coalition with Left and related third front as a grand coaliton (Let us call anti-US group). We may see a crony-capitalistic group of youngees from INC forming a different group. This group may split off along with Chidu.
Chidu may try to form a government with the help of current NDA and other anti-congress folks.
Pranab may try to build a coalition with the lefities and related folks. This may be INC led government.
Sensing all this rumblings to prevent a split INC may afterall go for a snap poll.
There is a saying in Telugu - illu bazaarki eedcharu. The INC honchos have decided to do that and the Gandhis are sitting quite as they will also become dust if they try anything other than being quite.
Chidambaram, being a tamilian, will not get enough support from any quarter. He was Muppanar's protege; and will remain a leader in INC. The amount of infighting in INC would have to be horrific, to let a 'madarasi' get to the top.
Ukrainian prostitutes? Any pictures <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />
Muppalla garu,the picture you are painting is very interesting. In on corner is Chiddu, in another Pranab Da, in another it is MMS, while in the fourth is the Dynasty. What about the other players? YSR was accidented and Jagan has been pushed out. Are you ruling out Pawar?
Why is MMS simply not going SILENTLY away giving the seat to Prince Charming? And why are Chiddu and Pranab da in the fight? Pranab is rather old and it is easier for him to play the second fiddle than aim for the top spot now. He missed the bus. In such a bout, I will place my money with the Dynasty. I would love to be wrong though.
Can you translate the telugu saying? I understand the first two words.
Quote:Chidambaram, being a tamilian, will not get enough support from any quarter. He was Muppanar's protege; and will remain a leader in INC. The amount of infighting in INC would have to be horrific, to let a 'madarasi' get to the top.
Tamilian and all that stuff only comes if you play such politics. Chidu does not have Tamil politics as a leaverage. It can come when it comes to snap count if he can split the INC and go with NDA to form the government.
Quote:Ukrainian prostitutes? Any pictures <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />
Subramanium Swamy letter wrote the details. If he has pictures then the discussion of Chidu as PM won't arise. May be MMS will release them as a last resort. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' />
Quote:Muppalla garu,the picture you are painting is very interesting. In on corner is Chiddu, in another Pranab Da, in another it is MMS, while in the fourth is the Dynasty. What about the other players? YSR was accidented and Jagan has been pushed out. Are you ruling out Pawar?
Pawar is out. He will be like Raja deep dead in food scandal. Ajit Pawar takes care of NCP though Pawar wants it to go to his daughter. Ajit Pawar may afterall take the Maha politics towards Shiv Sena and dump INC. There is an 2G equivalant scandal is out just in the last 24 hours in maharastra. Pretty biggy too.
Quote:Why is MMS simply not going SILENTLY away giving the seat to Prince Charming? And why are Chiddu and Pranab da in the fight? Pranab is rather old and it is easier for him to play the second fiddle than aim for the top spot now. He missed the bus. In such a bout, I will place my money with the Dynasty. I would love to be wrong though.
Why should he? He has a phylosophy which I don't agree with. However, he wants to do certain things that will be remembered as MMS achievements. He doesn't want to look like some puppet at the end of the day. He will finish off the family along with him.
Regarding Pranab Da, it is not power but he wants to be a last emporor (a la PVNR) of INC and finish of the agenda of PVNR before he leaves.
Chidu is totally different character. He is chameleon and he was inches away from joining BJP. Had BJP given him Finance he would have been a saffronite. He is not in that INC binding. He may be TINA to all those MP who may split off and create right-of-center government.
Quote:Can you translate the telugu saying? I understand the first two words.
Bring the house secrets to bazaar. If brothers fight and starting telling the weaknesses of mom and dad what prestige will remain for the family. INC leaders are openly involved in this final fight of 125 year party. We may see it's demise finally. I may hoping too much.
The position of PM has its own gravitas. MMS is the PM and not a faku like Fakhruddin Ahmed the President.
'But why the threat of Mid-term polls?'
Believe you me, there is no threat of midterm; no MP worth his salt has today guts to kill kamdhenu cow in form of MP seat as the 1st timer MPs will lose their pension etc(to earn pension MPs have to be there full 5 years). I am not sure but Bajpai committed this mistake by declaring election before the completion of 5 yr term of Parliament with the result that 1st timer MPs lost their pension? Similar sentiment is being voiced by Advani:
To a question whether the party was prepared to bring a no-confidence motion to dislodge a government it considers corrupt, Mr. Advani said: ââ¬ÅThis is not a solution. The talk of mid-term polls is to frighten the MPs who do not want to curtail their term. We would welcome it, but it is not a solution.ââ¬Â http://hindu.com/2010/12/15/stories/2010...831600.htm
If Chiddu is ready to strike an alliance with BJP, why did he ruffle feathers and give the pseudo-secular media further chance and hope by calling out "saffron terror"? The coterie around the Dynasty will lose a great deal, so they will be the proxies fighting this battle. With out the coterie Sonia or Rahul are nobody. Unless there is massive dirt on them, they will not go down easily.
I think we are giving too much importance to INC strategy or intelligence. In place, just think them low-level crook and all are busy to swindle money as much possible, as fast as possible. We have to think from street crook level, who just think of present without an consequence, without any long term vision.
Think Queen as typical small town boss from Italy. (Sapranos type and her lieutenants/boys)
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