[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Intelligence-intercepts-had-warned-of-strikes-by-IM/H1-Article1-720890.aspx"]Intelligence intercepts had warned of strikes by IM[/url]
These morons always come out next day that we had prior info. These idiots should quit job.
They should stop using word intelligence, in place use duffers.
Why I think there are links between Mumbai attack and assassination of Karzai brother. Same thing happened before 9/11. assassination of Ahmad Shah Massoud on 9th Sept and around same time bomb blast in India and 9/11.
It is a diversion, before big event.
[quote name='Mudy' date='14 July 2011 - 07:02 AM' timestamp='1310606680' post='112183']
Now Sonia will ask Mumbai police to pick up some sadhus and blame blast on them.
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As I said here comes Congress Party deranged statements.
[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Cong-cautious-on-Digvijay-s-remarks/H1-Article1-721994.aspx"] Digvijay Singh's controversial statement that he did not rule out the involvement of Sangh in Mumbai serial blasts[/url] Quote:Congress on Saturday chose to be cautious on party General Secretary Digvijay Singh's controversial statement that he did not rule out the involvement of Sangh in Mumbai serial blasts. "ÃÂt is the job of the investigating agencies to decide whom to include and whom to exclude" in the probe, party spokesman Shakeel Ahmed told reporters while reacting to Singh's statement which drew sharp criticism from BJP.
Mumbai blasts: Congress backs Digvijay Singh's RSS remarks
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BJP wants President of deranged Congress, Sonia to apologise for Digvijay's Hindu terror rem...
BJP seeks apology from Sonia for Digvijay's remark on blasts
These sick Congress Party is working full time to appease Muslim. Muslims should reject Congress. Basically, Congress is telling World that Muslim support terrorism, all Indian Muslims are terrorist sympathizers or terrorist.
Or
Did CONGRESS PARTY Orchestrated bomb blast in Mumbai?
Somebody should investigate Congress Party of India.
[url="http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/analysis_how-to-wipe-out-islamic-terror_1566203-all"]How to wipe out Islamic terror[/url]
Subramanian Swamy
The terrorist blast in Mumbai on July 13, 2011, requires decisive soul-searching by the Hindus of India. Hindus cannot accept to be killed in this halal fashion, continuously bleeding every day till the nation finally collapses. Terrorism I define here as the illegal use of force to overawe the civilian population to make it do or not do an act against its will and well-being.
Islamic terrorism is Indiaââ¬â¢s number one problem of national security. About this there will be no doubt after 2012. By that year, I expect a Taliban takeover in Pakistan and the Americans to flee Afghanistan. Then, Islam will confront Hinduism to ââ¬Åcomplete unfinished businessââ¬Â. Already the successor to Osama bin Laden as al-Qaeda leader has declared that India is the priority target for that terrorist organisation and not the USA.
Fanatic Muslims consider Hindu-dominated India ââ¬Åan unfinished chapter of Islamic conquestsââ¬Â. All other countries conquered by Islam 100% converted to Islam within two decades of the Islamic invasion. Undivided India in 1947 was 75% Hindu even after 800 years of brutal Islamic rule. That is jarring for the fanatics.
In one sense, I do not blame the Muslim fanatics for targeting Hindus. I blame Hindus who have taken their individuality permitted in Sanatan Dharma to the extreme. Millions of Hindus can assemble without state patronage for the Kumbh Mela, completely self-organised, but they all leave for home oblivious of the targeting of Hindus in Kashmir, Mau, Melvisharam and Malappuram and do not lift their little finger to help organise Hindus. If half the Hindus voted together, rising above caste and language, a genuine Hindu party would have a two-thirds majority in Parliament and the assemblies.
The first lesson to be learnt from the recent history of Islamic terrorism against India and for tackling terrorism in India is that the Hindu is the target and that Muslims of India are being programmed by a slow reactive process to become radical and thus slide into suicide against Hindus. It is to undermine the Hindu psyche and create the fear of civil war that terror attacks are organised.
Hindus must collectively respond as Hindus against the terrorist and not feel individually isolated or, worse, be complacent because he or she is not personally affected. If one Hindu dies merely because he or she was a Hindu, then a bit of every Hindu also dies. This is an essential mental attitude, a necessary part of a virat (committed) Hindu.
We need a collective mindset as Hindus to stand against the Islamic terrorist. The Muslims of India can join us if they genuinely feel for the Hindu. That they do I will not believe unless they acknowledge with pride that though they may be Muslims, their ancestors were Hindus. If any Muslim acknowledges his or her Hindu legacy, then we Hindus can accept him or her as a part of the Brihad Hindu Samaj (greater Hindu society) which is Hindustan. India that is Bharat that is Hindustan is a nation of Hindus and others whose ancestors were Hindus. Others, who refuse to acknowledge this, or those foreigners who become Indian citizens by registration, can remain in India but should not have voting rights (which means they cannot be elected representatives).
Any policy to combat terrorism must begin with requiring each and every Hindu becoming a virat Hindu. For this, one must have a Hindu mindset that recognises that there is vyaktigat charitra (personal character) and rashtriya charitra (national character). For example, Manmohan Singh has high personal character, but by being a rubber stamp of a semi-literate Sonia Gandhi and waffling on all national issues, he has proved that he has no rashtriya charitra.
The second lesson for combating terrorism is that we must never capitulate or concede any demand, as we did in 1989 (freeing five terrorists in exchange for Mufti Mohammed Sayeedââ¬â¢s daughter Rubaiya) and in 1999, freeing three terrorists after the hijack of Indian Airlines flight IC-814.
The third lesson is that whatever and however small the terrorist incident, the nation must retaliate massively. For example, when the Ayodhya temple was sought to be attacked, we should have retaliated by re-building the Ram temple at the site.
According to bleeding heart liberals, terrorists are born or bred because of illiteracy, poverty, oppression, and discrimination. They argue that instead of eliminating them, the root cause of these four disabilities in society should be removed. This is rubbish. Osama bin laden was a billionaire. In the failed Times Square episode, failed terrorist Shahzad was from a highly placed family in Pakistan and had an MBA from a reputed US university.
It is also a ridiculous idea that terrorists cannot be deterred because they are irrational and willing to die. Terrorist masterminds have political goals and a method in their madness. An effective strategy to deter terrorism is to defeat those political goals and to rubbish them by counter-terrorist action.Thus, I advocate the following strategy to negate the political goals of Islamic terrorism in India.
Goal 1: Overawe India on Kashmir.
Strategy: Remove Article 370 and resettle ex-servicemen in the valley. Create Panun Kashmir for the Hindu Pandit community. Look for or create an opportunity to take over PoK. If Pakistan continues to back terrorists, assist the Baluchis and Sindhis to get their independence.
Goal 2: Blast temples, kill Hindu devotees.
Strategy: Remove the masjid in Kashi Vishwanath temple and the 300 masjids at other temple sites.
Goal 3: Turn India into Darul Islam.
Strategy: Implement the uniform civil code, make learning of Sanskrit and singing of Vande Mataram mandatory, and declare India a Hindu Rashtra in which non-Hindus can vote only if they proudly acknowledge that their ancestors were Hindus. Rename India Hindustan as a nation of Hindus and those whose ancestors were Hindus.
Goal 4: Change Indiaââ¬â¢s demography by illegal immigration, conversion, and refusal to adopt family planning.
Strategy: Enact a national law prohibiting conversion from Hinduism to any other religion. Re-conversion will not be banned. Declare that caste is not based on birth but on code or discipline. Welcome non-Hindus to re-convert to the caste of their choice provided they adhere to the code of discipline. Annex land from Bangladesh in proportion to the illegal migrants from that country staying in India. At present, the northern third from Sylhet to Khulna can be annexed to re-settle illegal migrants.
Goal 5: Denigrate Hinduism through vulgar writings and preaching in mosques, madrassas, and churches to create loss of self-respect amongst Hindus and make them fit for capitulation.
Strategy: Propagate the development of a Hindu mindset.
India can solve its terrorist problem within five years by such a deterrent strategy, but for that we have to learn the four lessons outlined above, and have a Hindu mindset to take bold, risky, and hard decisions to defend the nation. If the Jews could be transformed from lambs walking meekly to the gas chambers to fiery lions in just 10 years, it should not be difficult for Hindus in much better circumstances (after all we are 83% of India), to do so in five years.
Guru Gobind Singh showed us how just five fearless persons under spiritual guidance can transform a society. Even if half the Hindu voters are persuaded to collectively vote as Hindus, and for a party sincerely committed to a Hindu agenda, then we can forge an instrument for change. And that is the bottom line in the strategy to deter terrorism in a democratic Hindustan at this moment of truth.
The writer is president of the Janata Party, a former Union minister, and a professor of economics.
[url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Will-crack-13/7-soon-say-cops-as-3-detained-in-Gujarat/articleshow/9277822.cms"] Will crack 13/7 soon, say cops as 3 detained in Gujarat[/url] Quote:Intercepted phone calls and emails have also given clues to investigators that the 13/7 triple blasts may have a Gujarat connection. The state ATS, along with central agencies, has been monitoring phone calls, which led to clues being unearthed on Saturday. "The calls intercepted are suspicious. Some calls are just two to three minutes long, but seem important. We cannot ignore such calls. Investigations are at such a stage that we cannot utter a single word about the probe," said a senior ATS officer.
Emails sent and received by arrested IM operative Danish Riyaz have not provided much information about the Mumbai blasts, but helped police know about other IM operatives. Danish was arrested three weeks ago by the Gujarat ATS. A two-member team from the National Technical Research Organization (NTRO), led by an inspector-general of police rank, was camping at ATS headquarters, Nagpada, Mumbai, on Monday. The NTRO suspects that some of the texts and pictures in Danish's emails could be a form of steganography, which involves hiding messages in small files.
I can't believe they are Muslims, not some saffron priest/Sadhu.
I am still waiting when Sonia will blame this on HIndus, her lap dogs are already blaming Hindus.
[url="http://sarvesamachar.com/click_frameset.php?ref_url=%2Findex.php%3F&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newkerala.com%2Fnews%2F2011%2Fworldnews-30127.html"] Digvijay slapped BJYM activists[/url] Quote:The slapping incident occurred on Sunday in Ujjain.
Bharatiya Janata Yuva Morcha (BJYM) workers were waving black flags at him when he apparently got enraged and slapped them.
Jayant Agarwal, a BJYM activist, said that the Congress leader got down from his vehicle and slapped him.
The BJP has slammed Digvijay for communalizing the issue of Mumbai blast.
"I have lodged an FIR," said Jayant.
BJP spokesperson Ravi Shankar Prasad had demanded an apology from the Congress for the RSS remark of Digvijay Singh.
Looks like Sonia's Lap dog is suffering from mental disease.
Digvijay trying to influence Mumbai blasts probe: BJP
Cong distances from Diggy's insinuation
RSS calls Digvijay a 'bully' over terror remark
[url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/354091/Digvijay-trying-to-communalise-fight-against-terror-BJP.html"] Digvijay trying to communalise fight against terror: BJP[/url] Quote:Since Singh has been appointed by Sonia Gandhi and is the political mentor of Rahul, "he is speaking his master's voice". This was more so, as both Sonia and Rahul are silent on most issues, Prasad said.
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Recalling Singh's controversial statements, the BJP MP said he had questioned the Batla House encounter and visited the families of the terrorists in Azamgarh, "called Osama bin Laden 'Osamaji', labelled Baba Ramdev a thug and Anna Hazare a dictator. He had also called Suresh Kalmadi innocent though the latter is in jail".
Why are 26/11 investigations still in limbo?
Quote:Why are the Mumbai 26/11 investigations still in limbo?
August 11, 2011 01:21 PM |
Karan Kharb
The nation cannot depend on the USââ¬âand of course, Pakistan, to nab the terrorists. Security issues have to be dealt with directly by India through an efficient mechanism with an effective intelligence gathering system, swift combat response, hot pursuit and follow-up methods to effectively fight and eradicate the menace of terrorism
Pakistan's reluctance in prosecuting the sponsors of the 26/11 Mumbai attacks has angered us continually even though a few suspects including Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, the LeT (Lashkar-e-Toiba) operations commander were arrested and put through trial under pressure of mounting world opinion. However, the Indian government, media and peopleââ¬âall have been fuming at the Pakistan government's unyielding attitude on the issue. Nevertheless, while an atmosphere of peace, friendship and cooperation is always the best option for both the countries, aren't we asking for too much in expecting Pakistan to prosecute the people who, it secretly believes, deserve gallantry awards? How naïve of India to expect that her tormenter would come to her rescue! As if we should have asked then President Musharraf to hand over or prosecute Pakistani Army officers and men guilty of the Kargil 1999 intrusion. Agreed, these are the times of outsourcing businesses; but outsourcing matters of national security to Pakistan or the United States would be simply preposterous with disastrous outcomes. Security issues have to be dealt with directly by us through an efficient mechanism with effective intelligence collection system, swift combat response, hot pursuit and follow up methods to effectively fight and defeat the menace of terrorism.
What is more dangerous for the national security is a corruption aided tendency in our officialdom to pass the buck and cover up the mounting inefficiency in police, local administration and intelligence agencies at all levels. Neither our intelligence agencies nor the Mumbai police had any clue about David Headleyââ¬âthe Lashkar member and lead scout of 26/11, who continued visiting and holidaying in Delhi, Mumbai and rest of India for years before and after the Mumbai attack until he was arrested by the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) sleuths in the United States.
And now we want him to be made over to us for 'further action'. The working of the police and intelligence agencies has been disappointing because blinded by rampant corruption they keep groping in the darkness without seeing much. Local suspects arrested from far-off places like Kolkata, Srinagar and Delhi have not led Mumbai police beyond primary level information like how the terrorists managed Indian SIM cards and little else. They did not examine their own surroundings and failed to penetrate the network in Mumbai that made 26/11 possible, no matter how well the ISI had trained and equipped them.
An operation like 26/11 could not have been possible without a prearranged foolproof support base in Mumbai. Typical, military operations in border areas may be carried out without a 'support base in situ' if the objective is clearly identifiable and covered approaches are available. 'Covered approach' in military parlance means a concealed route chosen by the attacker to obscure his movement from enemy observation. But navigating through the hustle and bustle of Mumbai roads and carrying out a simultaneous raid at 10 different targets including Taj Hotel, Oberoi Trident Hotel, Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus, Leopold Café, Nariman House Jewish Centre and Cama Hospital by terrorists coming ashore for the first time ever on an alien land humming with activity will be a foolish idea most unlikely to succeed unless intimately supported from the target end. A terrorist squad, howsoever well trained, leaving Karachi for Mumbai, not by air but by sea, would require pre-positioning of a reliable and well organised 'support base' with tentacles at sea, at the beach and in the city. It is understood that the overall coordination and monitoring controls would continue to function from Pakistan. And lo, we have not yet looked for those who constituted this support base for the terrorists and arranged for their reception, guidance, security/disguise, logistics, transport and, if possible, a get-away plan after the operation is over.
Having planned and participated in operations in the elite counter terrorist force, the National Security Guard (NSG), I have some idea about the functioning of Special Forces like ISI (Pakistan), Mossad (Israel), Delta Force (US), GSG-9 (Germany), SAS (UK), et al. While it might sound highly unethical and illegal, it is not unusual for the state secret services to recruit and utilise terrorists, smugglers and criminals to carry out covert operations deep inside enemy territory. Even assassinations and kidnappings are part of the game. Sometimes, victims also are grouped, armed and trained to fight insurgents on behalf of the state like the 'Salwa Judum' in Chhattisgarh. Therefore, it is no big revelation that Ajmal Kasab and his buddies were trained under the ISI's supervision. The manner in which Mumbai 26/11 was executed made it abundantly clear that the operation was planned and executed under expert supervision of the Pakistan Army and the ISI. The tactics, weaponry, grenades, composite survival provisions, medicines, steroids and communication system used by the terrorists pointed towards them unambiguously. Nevertheless, what has got overshadowed by the 'Headley confessions' is the need and urgency of home scrutiny that could have busted the 'in-city network' before it melted away.
Some vital aspects that should have been explored on priority by the Mumbai police and intelligence agencies involved in investigations are:
1. An operation of the type of 26/11 has to be preceded by detailed reconnaissance and surveillance of the target area to assess its vulnerability vis-ÃÂ -vis security status, suitable time of attack; communication, route, transport, navigational assistance and disguise required.
2. Contingency plans to strike at other targets in the event of initial plans becoming too difficult to execute.
3. Necessity to maintain total secrecy till the last moment.
4. An unobtrusive but tactically useful location near or at the target itself for reconnaissance/surveillance personnel to acquaint themselves with the profile of the target and routine activities, state of security vigilance, vulnerability level etc. Ideally, such surveillance would be mounted several days ahead of the D-day. These advance elements may either join the assault team or withdraw just prior to the H-hour for other tasks.
5. A suitable 'Safe House' for the advance elements and contingencies.
6. Elements who are assigned such missions also need local contacts to merge with the local milieu without rousing suspicions.
7. They might use more than one type of electronic network like satellite phones, mobile phones, radio, VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) etc.
8. It may sometimes become necessary for such terror teams to kill their supporters whom they consider might get caught and blow up in the operation before it is launched, for example the killing of the Captain of the fishing trawler 'Kuber' and taxi drivers.
9. Requirement of subsidiary support like planted media stories, flare up of communal violence, sympathetic political leaders diverting public attention, human rights activists blaming police and security forces, help line activists provoking help seekers etc., can tilt public mood adversely. We have live examples of this support extended by our own leaders like the Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh who blamed "the RSS inspired Hindu extremists for Hemant Karkare's death" and by AR Antulay, then a Union Minister who said "Hemant Karkare's death might be linked to his investigation of the 2006 Malegaon blasts believed to be handiwork of some Hindu extremists."
It is also important for the investigating agencies to understand the mechanics of planning and execution of such operations. Unlike the earlier blasts and shooting incidents in Mumbai, the attack of 26/11 was qualitatively different. Local assistance and coordination must have been provided by helpful elements at sea, on the beach and in the city, perhaps closer to designated targets. The investigating agencies should have focused on the distinct stages and phases of the operation that would have helped narrow down their search on matters of direct relevance rather than groping all over the globe, looking for a needle in a haystack. An analysis of how the events unfolded suggests that most probably the operation went through the following stages:
1. Preliminary Stage: Selection of volunteers, grouping, training, and other preparations.
2. Phase I: Movement requiring means of transport and navigation at sea from Karachi to Indian waters;
3. Phase II: Reception and marrying up with the advance elements, final briefing from a stand-off distance at sea; and landing on the beach;
4. Phase III: Quick dispersal of teams in pre-arranged vehicles for their designated targets;
5. Phase IV: Execution.
Normally, terrorists tasked for such operations are so deeply indoctrinated that they operate almost under a spell and will normally neither surrender nor get arrested alive. Kasab is a rare and lucky find for the Mumbai police.
But it is not only the Mumbai police; the entire system of our governance has been seriously damaged by corruption. It is because of corruption that failure in performance does not get punished and the inefficient and delinquent officers manoeuvre their way up the ladders without much hassle. Gratuitous returns have sickened our leaders, departments and forces that nothing seems to move us speedily in the direction required. We all are aware about the power base of the underworld in Mumbai, the finance capital of India. With Dawood's clout spread in Karachi, Dubai and Mumbai, it should have been possible to pick up more leads to reach more logical conclusions unless these leads led to someone too hot to touch.
Last week I ran into a Pakistani journalist at a seminar in Delhi and asked him why his government was sheltering the LeT operatives like Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi and other criminals wanted by India even when his country is suffering most from terrorism. He retorted, "You are quick to blame Pakistan for not proceeding strictly and swiftly enough against those who are accused of their role in the Mumbai attack of 26/11. Whereas we have proceeded against the suspects of the Mumbai attack despite India not sharing the evidence collected in this regard, aren't you sheltering Afzal Guru despite a death sentence by your own Supreme Court even after his review petition has been rejected and the sentence again confirmed? I'm happy you have not yet blamed Pakistan for this." (Afzal Guru was sentenced to death in 2004 for the attack on the Indian Parliament, was to be hanged on 20 October 2006 but lives on for no apparent reason. His mercy appeal for presidential clemency has been under consideration since 2006!). I tried to explain to him the legal rights of such convicts but he countered me yet again, "In another case, it was your cabinet minister who escorted Maulana Masood Azhar and his co-prisoners aboard a special flight and delivered them to freedom and safety in Kandahar and now you want Pakistan to arrest and send them to you. Isn't it funny?"
I had no answer. At the functional level of administration, we lack professionalism. At the national level, we do not know how to deal with serious situations at home or abroad. Result: no police or army officer knows about the 'government policy' in the event of a hijack or hostage situation because unlike Israel, India has no defined policy on it. Likewise, diplomatically, we are still in an ambivalent state while dealing with nations involved in the Arab Spring. Is India on the right path to assume her global role in the emerging world? Course correction in our governance was never needed more.
(The writer is a military veteran who commanded an Infantry battalion with many successes in counter-terrorist operations. He was also actively involved in numerous high-risk operations as second in command of the elite 51 Special Action Group of the National Security Guard (NSG.) He conducts leadership training and is the author of two bestsellers on leadership development that have also been translated into foreign languages).
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