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[url="http://www.wnyc.org/articles/its-free-country/2011/mar/09/hindu-activists-broaden-fight-against-islamic-extremism/"]Hindu Activists Broaden the Fight Against Islamic Extremism[/url]

For years, men like Arish Kumar Sahani have spoken out about the abuses suffered by Hindus in Muslim-majority countries, as well as how Islamic extremism affects Hindus in India. Their concerns didn't often travel outside the Indian-American community, which has fiercely debated the rights of Muslims in a Hindu-majority India.



But the furor over Park 51 and more recent controversy over Congressman Peter King's hearings on Muslim radicalization have provided a mainstream platform for Hindu-American activists, while simultaneously diversifying the ranks of anti-Islamic protesters.



"We're requesting all Muslims: If you don't help us, we have no other option," said Sahani on Sunday, speaking at a demonstration about what he considers inadequate Muslim-American cooperation with law enforcement agencies. "We have to stop immigration of all Muslims - that should be our ultimate solution. God bless America!"



His proposal drew cheers from the crowd of about 35 supporters of Peter King in midtown Manhattan. Just a couple weeks earlier, the retired insurance agent from Queens was in Long Island, at another rally in support of King.



Sahani was born in India before Partition, in what is now Pakistan. He calls America "heaven on earth," and thinks Muslim immigrants are benefiting from their adopted country without giving back. The United States, he argues, needs to be aggressive in fighting Muslim forces.



"I don't want this country to become just like Pakistan, Bangladesh, and India, which is becoming a soft nation for Islamic appeasement. We don't want this country to appease Islam."



At the rally, Sahani was joined by about ten other Indian-American men, most of them Hindus, as well as a couple Sikhs.



"The country should be made secure," said Pabitra Chaudhury, a Hindu activist. "We can't go to the airports without waiting in the line. And if it takes profiling of the people, what is the harm?"



One of the most prominent of the activists is Narain Kataria, a 76-year-old retiree from Queens. He helped establish the Human Rights Coalition Against Radical Islam, which includes four Indian, Sikh and Hindu groups, as well as the Zionist Organization of America and Americans for a Safe Israel.



"I have been watching Islam destroying everywhere," said Kataria, who has been active in Hindu nationalist groups in the U.S., including the Overseas Friends of the Bharatiya Janata Party, which raised funds for the BJP (Indian People's Party).

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[url="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372442/Two-UN-staff-beheaded-murdered-protest-U-S-pastor-burnt-Koran.html?ito=feeds-newsxml"]Two UN staff beheaded and eight others murdered in protest against U.S. pastor who burnt Koran[/url]

They seized weapons from guards and opened fire before storming the site.

An Afghan police source, who asked not to be named, said the chief of the mission in the city was wounded but survived.

Among those murdered were Norwegian, Romanian, Swedish and Nepalese nationals. Two were decapitated, it is understood

[Bharatvarsh2]

Owaisi refers to the Hindus in AP Assembly as Budparast & Kaffiran (Idol Worshippers & Infidels) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL5PWXK9P7U

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[url="http://www.emirates247.com/news/region/alleged-prophet-held-at-the-grand-mosque-in-makkah-2011-07-02-1.405418"]Alleged prophet held at the Grand Mosque in Makkah[/url]

A Saudi man mounted a prayers platform at the Grand Mosque in Islam’s holiest shrine in the Gulf kingdom and told thousands of worshippers that he was a prophet and their saviour before he was seized by police.



The 36-year-old man, identified as Sami, waited until the Muslims finished their evening prayers at the Grand Mosque in the western town of Makkah, mounted the podium and delivered his brief, fiery speech. “I am Al Mehdi Al Montathar…I am a prophet sent (by God) to save and guide you,” he told the packed hall before was overpowered by police.



'Okaz' newspaper said the incident took place on Friday night and that Sami insisted during police interrogation that he was a prophet. It said police would subject him to medical examination to check if he is suffering from mental illness.It was the latest in a series of incidents involving persons claiming to be Al-Mehdi Al-Montathar (the Chosen Imam Al-Mehdi) at Islamic holy sites in Makkah over the past few months.



All of them had been arrested and medically examined. Muslims believe Imam Al-Mehdi, dubbed “the ultimate saviour of mankind’ will eventually reappear as a great reformer who will destroy the beliefs of injustice and ignorance and fill this earth with fairness after it has been filled with injustice and oppression.

[Capt M Kumar]

agents on the prowl http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110704/main5.htm



Agents identify minor girls from poor families

Lure them with money and promise of a prosperous life

“Marry” (sell) them off to foreigners with the help of qazis

On most occasions, the young “bride” is made to sign a blank paper

The paper is later used as a “khulanama” or a declaration of divorce

This debars her from any alimony and other rights

The foreigner “bridegroom” leaves after the expiry of his student visa

[Husky]

1. http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/op-...migration/

More and more Norwegians are dissatisfied with the integration policy, and 53.7 percent of respondents in a survey will close the borders to immigrants.

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Etc.



Just a survey, but then, in some part of Australia there was some kind of referendum(?) to have the hijab/veil/straitjacket banned as well.

It's the beginnings of a noticeable discomfort among the host populations vis-a-vis the parasitic mindvirus.





Perhaps people posted the following already, but here's a couple of news items from some months ago -



2. Ukrainian beauty queen/contestant? was stoned to death by some islamaniac.

- He confessed to both the murder and the motive: Shariah Law, said he.

- Ukrainian police decided he was simply a madman stalker, that religion (islam) couldn't have possibly had anything to do with it.

Question: if they can ignore one half of his confession (the motive), maybe the other is equally false (that he did it)? Hmmm?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...alker.html

'A student did it, killing his classmate. There is no other underlying reason, neither religious nor linked with inter-ethnic conflicts,' Sergei Reznikov, a senior policeman involved in the case, told the Telegraph.

Experts said that around 250,000 Muslims live in the area between Crimea and the Ukraine but that there had never been any major examples of religious violence in the past.

[...]

It is still not clear why Ms Koren was killed. Gazievhas reportedly confessed to the killing and is said to have told local media that the murder was carried out in the name of Sharia law.

Police said that more psychological tests are being carried out on the suspect.

Hmmm. Still sounds to me like the Ukrainian police could be playing it safe, trying not to provoke any of the easily-incited gang by fingerpointing religion.





3. A few months ago, news reported how a Turkish star from the apparently never-ending German version of the GTST soap received death threats from islamaniacs for baring some/all/whatever for a German playboy (type?) magazine. Apparently faithfuls were heard going on record to threaten her with death.



The Turkish woman herself declared that it was an act of rebellion or liberation or something from her "societal constraints" (oder etwas). Sounds unnecessarily reactionary, IMO: a *true* act of liberation would be if she reverted to Hellenismos and ran off to marry a Hellene. Would do her some actual good.





Here:

http://www.europaplus.tv/2011/04/muslim-...n-clothes/

Muslim Playboy Model Sila Sahin May Lose More Than Clothes

Published on Apr 28 2011



A Muslim beauty who bared all for Playboy may well be the next victim of an honor killing in Germany, if orthodox Muslims get their way.



Sila Sahin, a Turkish knock-out and soap-opera star who shed her clothes for pornographer Hugh Hefner’s German edition of Playboy, is under fire from those calling her a “whore” and a “western slut” and who believe she must die.





Åžahin vs. Islam



When Şahin threw down the g-string, Islam was not amused. Şahin, apparently, grew up in a strict Muslim household. “What I want to say with these photos is, ‘Girls, we don’t have to live according to the rules imposed upon us,’” she told Playboy magazine. “For years I subordinated myself to various societal constraints. The Playboy photo shoot was a total act of liberation.”



Liberation for women isn’t exactly a top item on the Muslim man’s agenda. According to the New York Daily News, “Commenters [on the Internet] spewed that Şahin was ‘shaming Muslim womanhood’ and ‘prostituting herself for money,’ while others warned that she ‘needs to be very careful.’ ”



According to London’s Sun, “A kebab shop owner, asked on German TV what he would do if Sila were his daughter, replied: “I would kill her. I really mean that. That doesn’t fit with my culture.” Another website posted this comment: “She must pay.”





That means Åžahin may soon have her throat slashed or be shot by one or several Muslim men.



Reported the Daily News, “The Berlin-based star’s parents are said to be horrified at the pictorial, and Sahin told Germany’s Bild newspaper that her mother has cut off contact.”

(Choosing to cut off contact or not is upto her mother. But killing people over this is another matter.)





Honor Killings



Because of the millions of Turks who live in Germany, honor killings are a common feature of German life. Muslim men become enraged when their wives and daughters become “too Westernized” and rebel against authority. In Germany, that has meant a virtual bloodbath for Turkish women seeking to free themselves from the heavy hand of Mohammed’s apostles.



Consider this passage from an article in Der Spiegel magazine in 2005:



The Turkish women’s organization Papatya has documented 40 instances of honor killings in Germany since 1996. Examples include a Darmstadt girl whose two brothers pummeled her to death with a hockey stick in April 2004 after they learned she had slept with her boyfriend. In Augsburg in April [2005], a man stabbed his wife and 7-year-old daughter because the wife was having an affair. In December 2003, a Tuebingen father strangled his 16-year-old daughter and threw her body into a lake because she had a boyfriend.



Now such killings are occurring with more frequency in the United States as its Muslim population grows.



Just last week, a Somali Muslim was found guilty of beating his wife and murdering his four children. He slashed their throats after using a hammer on his wife. He thought she was having an affair. That killing was similar to one in Sterling Heights, Michigan, in 2009. In that case, one news account says, police “found [the Muslim murderer] standing outside his apartment, covered in blood. Inside, his wife lay in a pool of blood, dead from multiple stab wounds.”



Another Muslim mowed down his daughter in a car outside a welfare office in Arizona, while the prominent Muslim founder of a Muslim television station, ironically meant to dispel stereotypes about Muslims, beheaded his wife.



But back to Germany, where honor killings are quotidian routine. Şahin had better watch out. As a German cop told The Sun, “I think what she did was either very brave, or very stupid. She will be double-locking her door at night for a long time to come.”

Where in the world is that (Indian christian) Pink Panties Brigade when they're needed. Oh no. Sorry I asked. What if Nisha "What do you want to be when you grow up? Pornstar!" Susan - of Pinky Panty fame - threatens to strip for Playboy in protest? She'll single-handedly put off all humanity from procreation forever!

Sorry, that was mean of me. Even if it's probably entirely true, I admit it's still wrong to have stated it. :penitent:







http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/new...y-mag.html

Fanatics' fury at Muslim Playgirl

From ALLAN HALL in Berlin



Published: 27 Apr 2011





A MUSLIM actress has caused a storm by posing naked for Playboy.

Sila Sahin has been branded a "whore" and a "western slut" after appearing topless on the cover of the German edition of the men's magazine.



And Islamic fanatics have posted threatening internet messages.



Sila, raised in Germany by conservative Turkish parents, says she fears being "spat at" and "shamed".



Her parents are said to have reacted with "horror" at the 12-page coverage, and her mother has apparently cut off all contact.



Sila, 25 - star of German soap Good Times, Bad Times - claimed the shoot was a reaction to the "slavery" of her youth.



She added: "What I want to say with these photos is, 'Girls, we don't have to live according to the rules imposed upon us'.



"For years I subordinated myself to various societal constraints. The Playboy photo shoot was a total act of liberation."

(I guess I underestimated the total oppressiveness of islam again: apparently even standing around in chilly-looking gear for Playboy and getting serious death threats over it appeals more to muslimahs. But someone should tell these poor women that all that isn't necessary: if they are willing to defy islamic death threats, then what are they waiting for, heathenism is this way :points to Anatolia/Greece/Rome: And they can even keep their regular wardrobe - minus the bleh hijab - what's not to like.)





Threats

But Islamic internet sites are being monitored by the BND - the German intelligence agency - after threats were posted about her "shaming Muslim womanhood" and "prostituting herself for money".



One poster on the Jihad Watch website wrote: "She needs to be very careful..." Another simply said: "She must pay."



A kebab shop owner, asked on German TV what he would do if Sila were his daughter, replied: "I would kill her. I really mean that. That doesn't fit with my culture."

("But islam doesn't fit in with German culture. What should the Germans do, kebab man?")



The Islamic Community of Germany has called for a boycott of Sila.



About three million Muslim immigrants live in Germany, which has seen numerous honour killings in recent years by fanatical husbands, fathers and brothers.



In 2009, an asylum seeker was sentenced to life after killing his "too independent" German wife.



One police intelligence officer said of Sila: "I think what she did was either very brave, or very stupid.She will be double-locking her door at night for a long time to come."

I anticipate India's gaggle of leftists/christians are ready with a flood of explanations to excuse away all such islamaniac terrorism as being due to the "terrible economic situation" of muslims in Germany. Something along the lines of "Poor islamaniacs. So economically oppressed that they have to massacre their own women on a regular basis."





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From 3 posts up:

Alleged prophet held at the Grand Mosque in Makkah

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A Saudi man mounted a prayers platform at the Grand Mosque in Islam’s holiest shrine in the Gulf kingdom and told thousands of worshippers that he was a prophet and their saviour before he was seized by police.



The 36-year-old man, identified as Sami, waited until the Muslims finished their evening prayers at the Grand Mosque in the western town of Makkah, mounted the podium and delivered his brief, fiery speech. “I am Al Mehdi Al Montathar…I am a prophet sent (by God) to save and guide you,” he told the packed hall before was overpowered by police.

It's moments like this when I'm reminded how there's bits of christoislamoronism that I'm going to really miss when it extincts. Nothing compares to the hysterics produced by the deadly-serious (in more ways than one) ludicrous religion of Faith/Miracles (aka the religions of the invisible=non-existent gawd).

Sadly, heathens just aren't funny. I mean, they're not serious when they're funny. They merely choose to be funny for the sake of being funny: they're humourous. It's temporary for them.

But christoislamics are a joke: they really, seriously believe in utter nonsense. Which is why they are funny in their very essence.

Take them away and there'll be no one to laugh at. That old defunct FreethoughtMecca site was right.

Oh well, too bad. That's simply the price to pay for christoislamism's extinction. Humanity will have to find another - and less deadly - source of amusement.

[HareKrishna]

Funny.Racists versus imigrants in Sweden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWLxACbUr...ure=relmfu

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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQTTDCromw&feature=player_embedded[/media]



The leader of Jamaat-e-Islami of Pakistan, the country’s largest and most powerful pro-Sharia party, recently affirmed that a woman should not report being raped unless she has four male Muslim witnesses who saw the act. He bases his claim on Qur’anic ground: “Why did they not produce four witnesses? Since they produce no witnesses, they verily are liars in the sight of Allah” (Qur’an 24:13). In this non-English interview, Munawar Hasan makes his thoughts on rape clear:

[HareKrishna]

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[Husky]

1. www.faithfreedom.org/features/news/new-australian-convert-gets-the-first-taste-of-islam/

New Australian convert gets the first taste of Islam.



A general image of lashing can be found at: http://www.faithfreedom.org/features/new...ing-islam/

[Image caption:] Lashing is part of the Sharia law. Consumption of alcohol is punished by lashing



[color="#0000FF"]A new Muslim got his first taste of Islam when four Muslims broke into his house and beat him for drinking alcohol.



The NSW resident Christian Martinez, 31, recently converted to Islam. He went out drinking with his friends on Saturday night, but was woken up on the early hours of Sunday morning, by four Muslims who had broken into his home. Three of them hold Martinez down while the fourth, Tolga Cifci, 20, lashed him 40 times with an electric cable. The four Muslims were caught and charged by the police for break and entry and aggravated assault. Consumption of alcohol in Islam is prohibited.[/color]



The court was told Cifci and the three other men whipped the victim because of “religious beliefs” and were enacting sharia. When Mr Cifci was arrested on Monday night, police found in his house the electric cable used to whip Martinez [color="#0000FF"]and a hard drive from the victim’s home[/color].

[color="#800080"](Cifci + gang enacted sharia law by lashing Martinez for alcohol consumption. Just asking: Who's going to lop off Cifci's hand for stealing - also islamic law? Or does islamic law say that this goes under Booty: "those who break islamic law may be robbed by the Faithful.")[/color]



Mr Cifci’s parents, who were also present at yesterday’s hearing, provided the $10,000 payment and $50,000 security bond to assure their son’s release yesterday. He will remain under house arrest with his family as part of his bail conditions.



The second man, 43, surrendered himself at Auburn Police Station yesterday. He was charged with aggravated break and enter with intent to commit an indictable offence, detaining a person in company with intent to obtain advantage, and two counts of stealing from a dwelling.



The man has been refused bail and will appear in Burwood Local Court today.



Magistrate Tim Keddy told the court the charges against Cifci were “extremely serious and violent” and “if convicted it is highly likely he will be sentenced to a term of imprisonment”.



He ordered Cifci to remain at home unless accompanied by either of his parents and is to report to Auburn Police Station daily.



Police prosecutor told the court Cifci’s actions were a “misconstruction and particularised usage of religious law” used to justify his part in the attack on Martinez.



Cifci’s solicitor Tunc Ozen told the court the accused was “a person of prior good character” but acknowledged his actions would create controversy due to his alleged links to sharia and the Muslim faith. Cifci will reappear in court on September 14.







About the Author Ali SinaAli Sina is the author of Understanding Muhammad and Muslims; A Psychobiography of the Prophet of Islam. Ali Sina's article can be read on his blog alisina.org

If they faithfully carry out islam(oron)ic law when their own newly acquired convert drinks alcohol, guess what they'll do to him when he wants to become an apostate/be free again. (Hint: islam/mohammed/allah insists that apostasy from islam be punished with death.) They hate to lose converts, because islam - like it's other half, christianism - is a sore loser.



Truly, the greatest of miracles is that there exist people who actually adhere to christoislamism.







2. News piece on "Australische Iman Threatening Geert Wilders"

(*Dutch for "Australian")

Here an Imam is threatening Geert Wilders. Why is he safe and Wilders was charge for hate speech and not this idiot?

Full piece at http://www.faithfreedom.org/videos-featu...hreatened/

I haven't read this, but the above one line summary on the main page makes a point.

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[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Vastanvi-sacked-from-Darul-Uloom-cries-foul/H1-Article1-724935.aspx"]Vastanvi sacked from Darul Uloom, cries foul[/url]

Influential Islamic seminary Darul Uloom of Deoband sacked its rector Ghulam M Vastanvi on Sunday after a panel probing his alleged praise of Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi submitted a disputed report. Vastanvi refused to resign despite being asked to do so by the institution's shoora (supreme governing council) following which he was impeached after a vote. Eight council members voted to have him fired, against six who supported his continuance as mohatamim (rector). Among those who backed Vastanvi was cleric Badruddin Ajmal, a millionnaire perfume baron and MP from Assam.



"I was removed despite a favourable inquiry report. By God's grace, there was nothing to suggest I praised Modi," Vastanvi told HT. He relinquished charge immediately and is due to fly to London early Monday for a religious conference.



Supporters of Vastanvi said his removal would be challenged in the Supreme Court, but he denied taking any such decision.



Set up in 1866 by Muslim clerics at the forefront of India's freedom struggle, Darul Uloom is an important seat of Sunni Islam and serves as the spiritual wellspring of the Jamiat Ulama-e-Hind, the country's largest Muslim organisation.

Here is an example of Political Islam and use and abuse Indian Government.

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[url="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/saudi-cleric-issues-fatwa-defending-pedophilia-as-%E2%80%98marriage%E2%80%99/"] link[/url]

It is difficult to imagine defending pedophilia at all, let alone issuing a religious decree officially condoning it through the act of marriage. Yet that is what one Saudi cleric has reportedly done by issuing a fatwa defending Muslim “child marriage” or, pedophilia.



[size="5"]Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, a cleric in Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council, has reportedly issued a fatwa asserting that there is no minimum age for marriage and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.”[/size]



According to FrontPage:



Appearing in Saudi papers on July 13, the fatwa complains that “Uninformed interference with Sharia rulings by the press and journalists is on the increase, posing dire consequences to society, including their interference with the question of marriage to small girls who have not reached maturity, and their demand that a minimum age be set for girls to marry.”



Fawzan insists that nowhere does Sharia set an age limit for marrying girls: like countless Muslim scholars before him, he relies on Koran 65:4, which discusses marriage to females who have not yet begun menstruating (i.e., are prepubescent) and [size="5"]the fact that Muhammad, Islam’s role model, married Aishawhen she was 6-years-old, “consummating” the marriage—or, in modern parlance, raping her—when she was 9.[/size]



FP reports that the point of the fatwa is not so much that girls as young as 9 can follow Muhammad’s example and have sexual intercourse, but that there is in fact no age limit at all for the children to be taken as wives. FP asserts the only question posed by the cleric is whether the child is literally physically capable of “bearing the weight” of her new husband, or, molester.

[Husky]

^ Yucko but must read. It's the truth about islam. Of course, the girl children preyed on by islamaniacs have one slight "advantage" over the boy children equally preyed on in the same manner by islamaniacs: girls get some sort of marriage certificate out of it (I presume), which makes all the paedophilia that they're a victim of Legit. (<- See, see the advantage? No? Me neither.)



But where are all those Indians famous for harping on "human rights"? Where is Testy Teesta Seetalwaddle and Susannah (pens under pseudonym Arundaty) Roy?

More importantly, where is Manmohan "islam must have first claim on India's resources" Singh? I'm surprised he didn't declare that islam should have first claim on all the world's child "resources" as well. (Isn't that practicially the same thing as he said, but extended to a larger geography?)





Anyway, today's news:



TSP (via its trainees) attacks Chinese. Again. (Think TSP maybe finally worked out that official Chinese maps of China include *all* of Kashmir? TSP = useful idiot.)



Bangkok Post (same at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/a...89/1/.html )

http://m.bangkokpost.com/news/249770

[color="#FF0000"]China says Xinjiang attack linked to Pakistan[/color]

Published:

1/08/2011 at 12:32 PM



A Muslim Uighur woman begs as armed Chinese paramilitary policemen along a street in Urumqi, capital of the tense Xinjiang region. A deadly weekend attack in the province was masterminded by "terrorists" trained in Pakistan, the local government said Monday.



Fourteen people were killed in two attacks at the weekend in the ancient Silk Road city of Kashgar, and five alleged attackers were in turn shot dead by police in the wave of violence.



The Kashgar authorities said in a statement on their website that initial investigations found that the perpetrators of one attack learned explosive-making skills in terrorist-run camps in Pakistan.



"The heads of the group had learned skills of making explosives and firearms in overseas camps of the terrorist group East Turkistan Islamic Movement in Pakistan before entering Xinjiang," the online statement said.



Remote Xinjiang has seen several outbreaks of ethnic violence in recent years as the mainly Muslim Uighur minority bridles under what it sees as government oppression and the unwanted immigration of ethnic Han Chinese.



Last month, more than 20 people were killed in a clash with police in the remote city of Hotan.



Monday's statement appeared to refer only to an on a restaurant in Kashgar that took place on Sunday.



That came less than 24 hours after an earlier incident in which a truck that was waiting at a light at the food market in Kashgar, not far from the border with Kyrgyzstan, was reportedly hijacked.



Tianshannet.com, a website run by the regional government, reported that the attackers killed the driver, ploughed the vehicle into passers-by on a nearby pavement, then got out of the truck and stabbed people at random.



Six bystanders were killed before the crowd turned on them and killed one attacker, the report said.

(Sounds pretty much like the same-old islam known all over the world.)



Many Uighurs are unhappy with what they say has been decades of political and religious repression, and the unwanted immigration of China's dominant Han ethnic group.



While standards of living have improved, Uighurs complain that most of the gains go to the Han.



This tension has triggered sporadic bouts of violence in Xinjiang -- a vast, arid but resource-rich region which is home to more than eight million Turkic-speaking Uighurs.



State media quoted an official in Xinjiang calling the Hotan clash in July a "terrorist" attack.



But Uighur activists called it an outburst of anger by ordinary Uighurs and said security forces killed 20 people during the unrest.



In the nation's worst ethnic violence in decades, Uighurs savagely attacked Han Chinese in the regional capital Urumqi in July 2009 -- an incident that led to retaliatory attacks by Han on Uighurs several days later.



The government says around 200 people were killed and 1,700 injured in the violence, which cast doubt on the authoritarian Communist Party's claims of harmony among the country's dozens of ethnic groups.

Between a face-off between TSP/islam and China, my money's on China.

[Guest]

Beheaded jawans cremated in a hurry

August 07, 2011 1:22:34 AM

[url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/359064/Beheaded-jawans-cremated-in-a-hurry.html"] link[/url]

Srinagar/Dehradun/ Haldwani



Reporters: Khursheed Wani/Sunil Kumar/ Rajendra Markuna



Militants didn’t mutilate, says Army; doesn’t let families see bodies



Two badly mutilated bodies of soldiers have raised passion in the rank and file of the Army against heavily-armed infiltrators who have increased frequency of attempts to sneak into the Kashmir valley to perpetuate acts of violence.



The Army says that the bodies were mutilated in a fierce gunfight in Farkian Gali sector of Kupwara on July 30. But some reports claim that the infiltrators caught hold of the soldiers of the Kumaon Regiment, beheaded them and took away their heads as war trophies before badly mutilating the bodies. The infiltrator group hasn’t been identified so far, sources maintained.



The family members of Hawaldar Jaipal Singh Adhikari and Lance Naik Devender Singh, whose headless bodies were sent to their native places, were not allowed to see the mutilated bodies.



Though Jaipal Singh Adhikari’s family members were inconsolable when his completely wrapped body was brought here by the Army, none knew that there was more to the version handed out to them — that Adhikari was killed in a grenade blast.



With the information of militants having beheaded two Army jawans in Kupwara region, where Adhikari was posted, trickling in, questions are being asked if Adhikari was one of them. Thirty six-year-old Adhikari was a native of Asgola village, Dwarahat in Almora. He joined the Army in 1994. Jaipal’s family including his wife Beena and two children had recently shifted to Himmatpur, Talla, Haldwani. He was about to join his family in August.



Pushpesh Tripathi, MLA from Dwarahat, who was present during the cremation, told The Pioneer that the ‘body’ which was brought in the casket did not even have limbs.



“Army authorities told the martyr’s father about the unfortunate death and took his permission for token cremation, which was done with full State honours,” said Tripathi.



The defence spokesman claimed that four infiltrators were also shot down while they tried to escape into Pakistan, their bodies were spotted on the other side of LoC but they could not be retrieved by the Army.



“The entire group of infiltrators has been pushed back and their bid foiled,” the spokesman claimed. However, sources said the infiltrators had enough time to catch hold of the soldiers and mutilate their bodies.



Defence spokesman Lt Col Jagmohan Singh Brar conceded that the bodies were badly mutilated but denied the claim that they were beheaded and heads taken away as war trophies by the militants.



“There was a fierce gun-battle at the LoC in which two soldiers died on the spot while another critically injured soldier, who was evacuated to 92 Base Hospital, succumbed later,” he said. “When a soldier receives a full burst of fire from an automatic weapon, everyone knows what happens to the body,” he said, explaining the gory state of the bodies.



Brar said that the frequency of infiltration bids had increased during past two weeks as infiltrators were making efforts to enter the Valley before the onset of winter season. Defence sources said July and August are the choicest months for infiltrators to redouble their efforts to infiltrate as the mountain passes have least or zero accumulation of snow.



Army says that it is fully geared up to face the challenge of infiltration. Earlier this week, Army Chief Gen VK Singh along-with Northern Commander Lt Gen Parnaik and Chinar Corps Commander Lt Gen Syed Atta Hasnain visited forward posts to check preparedness to block the ingress of heavily-armed militants.



Sources said the Army has launched a massive combing operation along the Line of Control in the twin border districts of Kupwara and Baramulla following reports of fresh infiltration bids by militants in smaller groups. Sources said around 50 infiltrators sneaked in during past two weeks and the Army is trying to engage and eliminate them in areas closer to the LoC.



The latest two infiltration bids were made on August 5 but the Army foiled them at the cost of death of a jawan in Kupwara. During the two weeks, amid enhanced frequency of infiltration attempts, four infiltrators and five soldiers including a junior officer were killed.



Relatives and other locals joined the Adhikari family in mourning the death of the Uttarakhand native as did military personnel, representatives from the local administrative and social activists.



Bruised martyrdom



Some reports claim that infiltrators caught hold of two soldiers of the Kumaon Regiment, beheaded them and took away their heads as war trophies before badly mutilating the bodies.



Army says the bodies were mutilated in a fierce gunfight in Farkian Gali sector of Kupwara on July 30.



Defence spokesman claims that four infiltrators were also shot down while they tried to escape into Pakistan; their bodies were spotted on the other side of the LoC but they could not be retrieved by the Army.



Dwarahat MLA Pushpesh Tripathi, who was present during the cremation, told The Pioneer that the ‘body’ which was brought in the casket did not even have limbs.

[Husky]

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The only lesson the Indian army is sending its soldiers (and islam) is that Indian lives are cheap and islam may do anything. So islamaniacs will keep doing this until the Indian army teaches the faithful that they will pay dearly for every Indian soldier's life lost and every body desecrated.

At the very least, the Indian army should burn every islamaniac cadaver, and make sure to get the point across that There *will* be no resurrection.

(Because, IIRC, islam also believes in the "Judgement/Resurrection Day" nonsense fable. So burn their bodies upon expiry and I suspect not many islamaniacs will remain who'll be willing to risk trying for shaheed anymore. As for a peep out of any "suddenly conscientious" christoislamaniacs in the Indian army - they know where they can find Pakistan; and hopefully there's a price on desertion too.

But I forgot. The Indian army is Secular. What is not secular, however, is the islamic army of Pukestan/BD or its dear buddies - the islamic militants.)



Other than the right to die at the border to maintain India's ground - for Sonia and christianism presumably (christianism is the only one in charge, which has designs for India all of its own) - have Indian soldiers any other rights? (Well, there is obviously also the right to get mutilated before or after death - but that's not really what I was asking about either.)

BTW, who's thinking the Jawans lost their heads while still alive? No, no, *I'm* not the one being "insensitive" or "distasteful". <- That would be islam (in fact, islam never left it at words either.) I'm referring to how islam's faithful still behead Thai Buddhists while alive too. And remember how the medieval Afghan islamaniacs played Afghanistan's famous islamic polo bloodsport with Hindu prisoners of war - the stronger/more alive 'n kicking the Hindoo victim the better! - the living Hindus ended up carcasses during the game, but throughout their transformation from the Living to the Brutalised to the Dead they got to entertain the islamaniacs and islam's non-existent yet bloodthirsty jeebusjehovallah.



When will Indians - the army included - stop aiming to die a horrible death at the hands of humanity's enemies. Why not live and let your enemies die in your stead? <- It's a Revolutionary idea I know, but if all lives are "equally worthy" - as only people who never had to stand by and get murdered themselves will keep lecturing - surely, the enemies' lives are as eligible for sacrifice as Indians' own? Am I wrong?

Either way:



"And now you know why Evil always wins. Because Good is DUMB."

[HareKrishna]

[quote name='Husky' date='07 August 2011 - 05:46 PM' timestamp='1312718887' post='112393']

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The only lesson the Indian army is sending its soldiers (and islam) is that Indian lives are cheap and islam may do anything. So islamaniacs will keep doing this until the Indian army teaches the faithful that they will pay dearly for every Indian soldier's life lost and every body desecrated.

At the very least, the Indian army should burn every islamaniac cadavar, and make sure to get the point across that There *will* be no resurrection.

(Because, IIRC, islam also believes in the "Judgement/Resurrection Day" nonsense fable. So burn tnity's enemies. Why not live and let your enemies die in your stead? <- It's a Revolutionary idea I know, but if all lives are "equally worthy" - as only people who never had to stand by and get murdered themselves will keep lecturing - surely, the enemies' lives are as eligible for sacrifice as Indians' own? Am I wrong?

Either way:



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Muslims are afraid of death by fire ?.It seem a superstition that i find also among some christians,that people death by fire(or drowning) are destined to hell.

[Husky]

[quote name='HareKrishna' date='07 August 2011 - 06:53 PM' timestamp='1312722945' post='112398']

Muslims are afraid of death by fire ?.It seem a superstition that i find also among some christians,that people death by fire(or drowning) are destined to hell.

[/quote]Wouldn't know if muslims - as a group - are afraid of *death* by fire.

The point was: they don't want their dead body burned because of the fiction regarding "Judgement Day". (Their afterlife story requires a body which specifically requires burial - due to which the pyre is faithfully avoided by the faithful of christoislamism. In christianism, the pyre was - and at times still is - banned.)



Also: no one was advocating burning anyone to death - eeewwww. I was referring to how dead bodies of islamaniac militants should be burnt to dissuade them from messing with the Indian army (though I seem to have misspelled cadaver before with an 'a' instead of 'e' - corrected now):

At the very least, the Indian army should burn every islamaniac cadaver

In Dutch at least, kadaver means corpse/carcass (i.e. dead body) of some beast (as opposed to NL "lijk": human corpse). It is certainly the sense in which my statement was formed.





Hmmm. The American Merriam-Webster dictionary reveals the Latin-derived word's meaning in English to be slightly different from the similar-sounding word in Dutch, though still referring to a *dead* body:

Definition of CADAVER

: a dead body; especially : one intended for dissection

One of these days, I *really* should learn English.

Not today.

[Husky]

First link is a must read -



Summary:

[color="#0000FF"]End August 2011, New York.

3000 "peaceful" muslims - organised by Muslim American Society, apparently famous as the sue-happy arm of CAIR (Council for American Islamic Relations (?), the PR dawaganda arm of islam in the US)

descend on the only government-owned themepark in the US, where they were already told no head-gear on certain rides. 3000 muslims are there purportedly to "celebrate" the end of Ramadan.*

Muslimahs follow their script to the letter, whine on camera that they're not allowed "because we're muslim". End result: muslim mob riot. Injure 2 policemen. 100 policemen called in. 15 people arrested.



* As Americans commenting on this and related islamic events have observed, the real reason was to make public noise, sue and get more money for jihad.[/color]





1. http://www.debbieschlussel.com/41521/amu...-of-peace/

Two park rangers were injured in the melee, prompting felony assault charges against two people arrested, officials said.



The ugly incident happened just after 1 p.m. The event was organized by the Muslim American Society of New York, and attracted 3,000 Muslims from Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx and Westchester County.

Yup, the Muslim American Society, a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, which also gave birth to Al-Qaeda, HAMAS, etc.

Peter Tartaglia, deputy commissioner of Westchester County Parks, said the Muslim American Society of New York was warned in advance of the rule barring head scarves on rides for safety reasons.



“Part of our rules and regulations, which we painstakingly told them over and over again, is that certain rides you cannot wear any sort of headgear,” Tartaglia said. “It’s a safety issue for us on rides, it could become a projectile.”



Many Muslims were given refunds as they left the park disappointed.

2. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...rides.html

31 Aug 2011: Mass brawl at theme park after Muslim women are banned from going on rides unless they remove their head scarves







At the first link, notice the Americans in the comments going on about how the muslims are pouring in (even illegally), multiplying (noting "so many baby-carriages" in the photos), deliberately draining taxpayers' money and not assimilating. They want the muslims to assimilate or go home.



Was very nearly inclined to feel sorry for the Americans.



Yet:

1. both christianism and islam do exactly the same in Bharatam and with more gusto. And are supported and funded in this by US taxpayers' money and christo/western policy on India.

Examples of organised islamic riots are popular even to American christians opposed to islam. But for an example of christianism similarly undermining the natives of India: christians "lawyers" in TN brawled with pre-determination (with sympathetic howling of christian "lawyers" in AP, apparently), all in order to prevent Hindus from having their day in court to defend their Chidambaram Kovil from being taken over by the christian government. Christians brawled for the purpose of keeping the matter - important to Hindus - hanging in limbo, without resolution.



2. So islam wants to illegally usurp America (by means of an extrapolated 'genocide') from the christian invaders who illegally usurped "America" (using definite genocide) from the native Americans?

Oh how unfair that would be.



If <500 years of christian supremacy in the US can make christianism the 'rightful' owner of the US - "one nation under gawd" as the christians claim it is - then surely some 500 years of islamic supremacy in the US can make islam the 'rightful' owner of the US too - still "one nation under gawd"?

Am I wrong? Is my logic in error somehow?

After all, christian America is founded on the "finders keepers - losers genocided" theory put to practice. If islam keeps to the same rule... how is this different?



But "Americans are so humane now". Well, native Americans were all too humane to their hostile enemies (fed, clothed and cured them) which ingrates then murdered the native Americans for their hospitality. If such people as the NA could be so horridly wronged by great evil #1 and no one can cry foul, surely great evil #1 being similarly "wronged" by great evil #2 is not something that deserves special treatment?



In India too: if christians were ever to make heathen land into a "India for christ" - which is only being accomplished by illegal and false means: lying (propaganda, framing/disappearing Hindus under false terror charges), stealing (land, inculturation, subverting the democratic process etc) and genocide (NE, Swami Lakshmanananda etc etc)

then if muslims were to use the same methods to genocide christianism in India shortly thereafter,

does anyone with any sense of fairness really care? In fact, wouldn't the heathen think that great evil #1 - which genocided heathenism - deserved to be genocided by great evil #2?





"But it's not just statistics"

Why is it only statistics or "history" when *heathens* are the victims. No it's worse in their case: it's a total silence on what happened to them. And a history whitewash. Even a downright inversion (christians still pretend their innocent sheepish forerunners were "persecuted" by the Roman empire. So that in all the noise, the world doesn't catch on how the Hellenes were systematically persecuted into extinction by christianism.)

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[quote name='Husky' date='06 September 2011 - 11:16 AM' timestamp='1315321682' post='112745']

If <500 years of christian supremacy in the US can make christianism the 'rightful' owner of the US - "one nation under gawd" as the christians claim it is - then surely some 500 years of islamic supremacy in the US can make islam the 'rightful' owner of the US too - still "one nation under gawd"?

Am I wrong? Is my logic in error somehow?

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Well, it's called [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_Destiny"]Manifest Destiny[/url]

Once you give it a catchy phrase and bless it with Gawd-something something, you can get away with it.