08-03-2005, 10:47 AM
Well people who say that buddhism has nothing to do with hinduism should try and see what vivekananda has to say about buddha, or should see what Shankaracharya fought against.
Further sikhs maynot call themselves hindus politically but theologically and culturally all there interests lie in the vedic dharma, it is just that guru grant sahib is a book which has basics of vedas written down to make it easy to go about as an organised religion.
All the basic tenets of guru pooja, are there in guru grant sahib.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Think of Hinduism as an alliance of free thinking individuals fighting to preserve their rights.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Exactly politically I would like to have hinduism to be an organisation which fights for all the things dear to hindus and it should be a forum which encourages individual thinking, personal liberty and protection of rights.
There should not be canon laws saying that so and so is not hindu or and this is bad. Obviously there has to be a set rule and personal and community interests should be seen and most importantly in matter of grave disagreement community interests take preference.
As it is said that if sacrifice of one individual saves the community the individual should be sacrificed.
So i believe that the self critical nature of hinduism should be preserved at any cost inorder for it to be relevant at all times and in all places, exactly symbolising what is essentially sanatan.
Politically hindus have to be united. But the biggest problem is that politically hindus cannot be united on a religious basis. It is not possible. Hinduism is a macrocosm of ideas(so many ideas that it cannot be reconciled under one platform politically) and so many different and diverse ideas that it is simply not possible to unite them religiously also.
The only way to unite hindus politically is by a conservative political policy of security, economic development, fight against communism and fight against islamism.
The biggest challenge politically for hindus today is the onslaught of islamism and marxism. These godless characters are trying to create intellectual capital to incite people against the vedic culture of this land and turning them against there own system and local tradition, hence making it difficult to achieve better and faster economic growth, further they are also making it difficult to administer people and provide all the basics required for fast upward mobility socially.
So an average hindu should be united in this front for better economic and social progress. The splintered nature of hinduism politically should be removed and a clear direction looking into the long held local systems and tradition should be the platform on which hindus should be united politically. There should not be an effort to unite hindus theologically or religiously. First of all this is not possible, secondly it will backfire on hinduism big time after it is completed(if somehow it gets completed). We have to think about the end and what we want to do with the end. We cannot dry the great source of intellectual capital of vedas and purana for present day political purposes.
Political purposes should be solved politically by creating like minded political causes on which it can be fought. And I clearly see that by creating interest in people towards there local cultures(which is derived from the basic tenets of hinduism) will keep them interested in this religion and further will bring great economic development as policies can be implemented easily and faster. The failing of india especially congress party has been that some great secular intellectual who does not understand the local people passes laws totally irrelevant and unimplementable in the places where they are intended to be implemented, and the simple reason for this is that they donot understand hinduism or indeed wants to de-hinduism the system(which is essentially marxism in the indian sense). So our fight politically to unite hindus should be directed in this front and it will create a grand resurgence of hinduism per se. Because then the theology of hinduism can be taken by individuals, yogis, munis, seers and religious organisations, where dissent, criticism can be encouraged and hence creating a better theological discourse for further generations. We have to be patient and not reactionary, we will win over these islamists and marxist, we dont have to let it backfire on hinduism.
Lastly I will just say islam removed the concept of ijtihad in 13th century fearing that too much criticism will make islam fall, indeed just the opposite happened, it was the reactionary step of muslim clerics which made islam such a brutal and reactionary religion, if self criticism would have been carried, islam would not have fallen down so rapidly. We should learn from the history of other religions also.
Abhishek
Further sikhs maynot call themselves hindus politically but theologically and culturally all there interests lie in the vedic dharma, it is just that guru grant sahib is a book which has basics of vedas written down to make it easy to go about as an organised religion.
All the basic tenets of guru pooja, are there in guru grant sahib.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Think of Hinduism as an alliance of free thinking individuals fighting to preserve their rights.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Exactly politically I would like to have hinduism to be an organisation which fights for all the things dear to hindus and it should be a forum which encourages individual thinking, personal liberty and protection of rights.
There should not be canon laws saying that so and so is not hindu or and this is bad. Obviously there has to be a set rule and personal and community interests should be seen and most importantly in matter of grave disagreement community interests take preference.
As it is said that if sacrifice of one individual saves the community the individual should be sacrificed.
So i believe that the self critical nature of hinduism should be preserved at any cost inorder for it to be relevant at all times and in all places, exactly symbolising what is essentially sanatan.
Politically hindus have to be united. But the biggest problem is that politically hindus cannot be united on a religious basis. It is not possible. Hinduism is a macrocosm of ideas(so many ideas that it cannot be reconciled under one platform politically) and so many different and diverse ideas that it is simply not possible to unite them religiously also.
The only way to unite hindus politically is by a conservative political policy of security, economic development, fight against communism and fight against islamism.
The biggest challenge politically for hindus today is the onslaught of islamism and marxism. These godless characters are trying to create intellectual capital to incite people against the vedic culture of this land and turning them against there own system and local tradition, hence making it difficult to achieve better and faster economic growth, further they are also making it difficult to administer people and provide all the basics required for fast upward mobility socially.
So an average hindu should be united in this front for better economic and social progress. The splintered nature of hinduism politically should be removed and a clear direction looking into the long held local systems and tradition should be the platform on which hindus should be united politically. There should not be an effort to unite hindus theologically or religiously. First of all this is not possible, secondly it will backfire on hinduism big time after it is completed(if somehow it gets completed). We have to think about the end and what we want to do with the end. We cannot dry the great source of intellectual capital of vedas and purana for present day political purposes.
Political purposes should be solved politically by creating like minded political causes on which it can be fought. And I clearly see that by creating interest in people towards there local cultures(which is derived from the basic tenets of hinduism) will keep them interested in this religion and further will bring great economic development as policies can be implemented easily and faster. The failing of india especially congress party has been that some great secular intellectual who does not understand the local people passes laws totally irrelevant and unimplementable in the places where they are intended to be implemented, and the simple reason for this is that they donot understand hinduism or indeed wants to de-hinduism the system(which is essentially marxism in the indian sense). So our fight politically to unite hindus should be directed in this front and it will create a grand resurgence of hinduism per se. Because then the theology of hinduism can be taken by individuals, yogis, munis, seers and religious organisations, where dissent, criticism can be encouraged and hence creating a better theological discourse for further generations. We have to be patient and not reactionary, we will win over these islamists and marxist, we dont have to let it backfire on hinduism.
Lastly I will just say islam removed the concept of ijtihad in 13th century fearing that too much criticism will make islam fall, indeed just the opposite happened, it was the reactionary step of muslim clerics which made islam such a brutal and reactionary religion, if self criticism would have been carried, islam would not have fallen down so rapidly. We should learn from the history of other religions also.
Abhishek