11-26-2005, 12:41 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-rajesh_g+Nov 25 2005, 11:39 PM-->QUOTE(rajesh_g @ Nov 25 2005, 11:39 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Somehow I cant make up my mind whether MKG was good for India or not. Some random thoughts..
1. I find myself flipflopping between approving MKG methods due to the effectiveness in building the nation and then a second later as Guroos here indicate, his reactions to Moplah massacre come to mind.
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nothing was less effective in building the nation than gandhi's defeatist methods.
effective in building the nation would be the path of a bloody freedom, like the one advocated by lal-bal-pal, by aurobindo, netaji and sarvarkar.
<!--QuoteBegin-rajesh_g+Nov 25 2005, 11:39 PM-->QUOTE(rajesh_g @ Nov 25 2005, 11:39 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->2. I know people have said he was inspired by JC or the Jaina philosophy, but sometimes I think he found a Vaishya/Baniya solution when the Brahmins/Kshatriyas of the nation had failed.
3. It seems that given the spiritual (right or wrong) msg in his life ensures that the path to discrediting hinduism goes through discrediting MKG.
4. I dont know where I read this or maybe the thought came to mind but MKG attacked the very foundation of the colonial edifice -> colonialism for the good for natives and that colonial powers were actually uber-ethical mahatmas.
Cant think of anything more..
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gandhi was inspired by a completely wrong understanding of hinduism in general, and ramayan and the concept of ahimsha in particular. that he couldnt understand a bit of the mhabharat is equally apparent.
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spirituality does not win you freedom. fighting does. killing does. blood does.
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i could not understand what you meant by point 4.
kushal......... do you think india is damaged beyond repair thanks to the beevis and butthead combine.... or can we still get our facts right and most importantly chuck our defeatist attitude and become....well,... "fighters" ??
1. I find myself flipflopping between approving MKG methods due to the effectiveness in building the nation and then a second later as Guroos here indicate, his reactions to Moplah massacre come to mind.
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nothing was less effective in building the nation than gandhi's defeatist methods.
effective in building the nation would be the path of a bloody freedom, like the one advocated by lal-bal-pal, by aurobindo, netaji and sarvarkar.
<!--QuoteBegin-rajesh_g+Nov 25 2005, 11:39 PM-->QUOTE(rajesh_g @ Nov 25 2005, 11:39 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->2. I know people have said he was inspired by JC or the Jaina philosophy, but sometimes I think he found a Vaishya/Baniya solution when the Brahmins/Kshatriyas of the nation had failed.
3. It seems that given the spiritual (right or wrong) msg in his life ensures that the path to discrediting hinduism goes through discrediting MKG.
4. I dont know where I read this or maybe the thought came to mind but MKG attacked the very foundation of the colonial edifice -> colonialism for the good for natives and that colonial powers were actually uber-ethical mahatmas.
Cant think of anything more..
[right][snapback]41993[/snapback][/right]
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point 2 --------------
gandhi was inspired by a completely wrong understanding of hinduism in general, and ramayan and the concept of ahimsha in particular. that he couldnt understand a bit of the mhabharat is equally apparent.
poiht 3 --------------
spirituality does not win you freedom. fighting does. killing does. blood does.
point 4 --------------
i could not understand what you meant by point 4.
kushal......... do you think india is damaged beyond repair thanks to the beevis and butthead combine.... or can we still get our facts right and most importantly chuck our defeatist attitude and become....well,... "fighters" ??