08-16-2005, 05:04 AM
Carl,
That is not excatly right. Whatever 'monism' or advaita says is justifiable based on vedanta (upanishads). Brahman has often been called undivided, one, unchanging etc in the upanishads. Try imposing a real pariNAma (or even kArya-kAraNavAda) type of 'transformation' on that. It is not possible.
Simultaneously there are instances where brahman is supposed to have created the universe as at least temporarily separate from itself (yathorNa-NAbhiH sR^ijjate...) etc.
So none of the vedanta based 'philosophies' can claim exclusive rights to vedAnta.
The fact is vedAnta (upaniShads) is a collection of experiences of many sages. The sages were self-realized, but were not necessarily into 'philosophy'.
A philosophical system based on vedAnta needs a 'logical' organization of the materials present in the upanishads.
So far, I haven't seen ANY system of vedAnta philosphy that does a better job on purely philosophical grounds, than Shri Shankara's advaita.
And I am not closed minded on this. I am open to be educated into a better philosophical system if it exists.
But a purely 'philosophical' discussion is not feasible if it keeps on getting mixed with 'rhetoric'.
That is not excatly right. Whatever 'monism' or advaita says is justifiable based on vedanta (upanishads). Brahman has often been called undivided, one, unchanging etc in the upanishads. Try imposing a real pariNAma (or even kArya-kAraNavAda) type of 'transformation' on that. It is not possible.
Simultaneously there are instances where brahman is supposed to have created the universe as at least temporarily separate from itself (yathorNa-NAbhiH sR^ijjate...) etc.
So none of the vedanta based 'philosophies' can claim exclusive rights to vedAnta.
The fact is vedAnta (upaniShads) is a collection of experiences of many sages. The sages were self-realized, but were not necessarily into 'philosophy'.
A philosophical system based on vedAnta needs a 'logical' organization of the materials present in the upanishads.
So far, I haven't seen ANY system of vedAnta philosphy that does a better job on purely philosophical grounds, than Shri Shankara's advaita.
And I am not closed minded on this. I am open to be educated into a better philosophical system if it exists.
But a purely 'philosophical' discussion is not feasible if it keeps on getting mixed with 'rhetoric'.