12-06-2003, 01:12 AM
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âIn the face of a US on the offensive, a US-India axis and a missile shield, China might follow the course similar to that followed by the USSR in the 1980s -- namely, building up a much larger force of nuclear missiles in order to penetrate the missile shield in different places, including over India. The Americans are well aware that such a programme would be enormously expensive, and would strain China's economic strength; indeed, that is one of their objectives. The Indian public, however, is unaware that it is being thrust into this dangerous strategic chess-game by its rulersâ. This game of artition will drain the Indian resources also to buy expensive military gadgets costing billions of dollars thus bringing the weapons making nations (US Britain, Russia, France Israel) come out of recession than developing Indian infrastructure and eventually plunging India in to a debt trap. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Acharya,
that is exactly on the spot! Graduate
Thats the same reason why i appose Indian-US defence ties.But helll, our politicians are not mature enough to understand washigton's game.
in the end india,china will end up with all messed up.Washigton will be laughing at other end 10,000 miles away at end of this century around 2091.
(Bejan daruwalla has predicted a big WAR between india & china in 2091)
evil west will spring back at end of this century with destruction of two great cultures in india <!--emo&:unsure:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='unsure.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[already due to lack of awareness in indian leaders about strategic games in world we have lost most of things till 1997 which include kashmir problem(due to british game which neharu failed to understand),loss of 1/3 kashmir,late nukes test) and now this game]
India has 3 options ->
1)choose china as closer ally or friend or business partner(its impossible due to lack of contacts between chinese and indian community)
2)choose US as strategic ally(i think we did this suicide already by leaning towards US and also showing hasty interest in missile defense program <!--emo&:thumbdown--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
3)be neutral and treat both as per our needs on case by case basis(WE are too late to think over this BEST OPTION.
We are doing same mistake again which we did in 1965 of ignoring China angle.
When our think tanks think about weapons deals with US(not Israel) they ignore what impact it will have on china-india equations in ASIA.This is a mistake.
We must INCREASE military co-operation with china.We must MAKE clear to US we are no way going to compete with china in defense modernisation.
CHINA will do modernisation bcoz it feels un-secure from WEST.By making defense deals with WEST we are making india-china relations more BAD.
A TIP from me : in long term,friendship with china is better and safer than with West.Bcoz west is noone's friend,never be.While china can become our best friend bcoz
1)we are neighbours
2)we don't have any old rivalry.If there is anything then its border problems which are not any big issues.
3)as far as china's help to pak is concerned it is bcoz china feels india is going closer US and feels in-secure.And india is ONLY INCREASING their feeling by going close and closer to US. IF china is given assurance they are secure from our side then pukki-support will get narrow year by year.(don't expect close-up bcoz china also need weapons market as pukki).
4)A powerfull neighbour in Asia as india's close friend.WHAT can be better thing for india(and most destructing thing for WEST)?......just imagine two biggest economies of world as close friends and neighbour too!!!(so they can fight together with any enemy of them in world!!)
5)Noone in the world(including US,brits) can think of attacking india or china due to this DEADLY combination of 2.5 billion people of ASIA! (this is the main reason why US is always un-easy when indian PM visits china).
6)If you agree with above 5 points then you will agree with me that washigton will DO EVERYTHING in his power and reach to avoid closer india-china relations.US may offer defense missile,phalcon(already did...a mess,it infuriated our neighbour
.......what can be worse THING that can happen to two neighbours in ASIA.....WEST must be laughing how they succeded again keeping DEADLY combination away from meeting... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
Another mess was joint military excercises.Our leaders AGAIN neglected strategic consequences of this act in regard with china-india relations.AGAIN WEST is laughing.....they succeded.
<i><b> One more thing i forgot is that in this game Greatest Victory of West will be lowering the heat between india-RUSSIA relations by PUSHING more modern and latest weapons from ISrael or directly(HTCG-agreement) with India.Reaction of this will be increased HEAT of relations(defense deals) between CHINA and
RUSSIA(they simply need money....so won't mind selling large stuffs...carriers,submarines...updation) to counter the heat between india and US.
</b></i>
so guys think again,who we should go closer with.....having 2 million NRI community in US and more business ties is not enough reason to invite bigger mess and miss more healthy ties(india-china)as it can be superpower of asia which west never wanna see.
MY FINAL WORDS ARE,
<b><i>The Divide And Rule that Brits played with indian kings to rule India some centuries ago,today The Same Game WEST is playing with CHINA and India </b></i>
expect more defense deals from west in coming days... <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
that was my assesment of things.....maybe right..
<b> my suggestion : make realtions with all of our neighbours better first before dealing or running for WEST.bocz,it only our neighbour which matches in culture with us not the greedy West. </b>
thanks.
âIn the face of a US on the offensive, a US-India axis and a missile shield, China might follow the course similar to that followed by the USSR in the 1980s -- namely, building up a much larger force of nuclear missiles in order to penetrate the missile shield in different places, including over India. The Americans are well aware that such a programme would be enormously expensive, and would strain China's economic strength; indeed, that is one of their objectives. The Indian public, however, is unaware that it is being thrust into this dangerous strategic chess-game by its rulersâ. This game of artition will drain the Indian resources also to buy expensive military gadgets costing billions of dollars thus bringing the weapons making nations (US Britain, Russia, France Israel) come out of recession than developing Indian infrastructure and eventually plunging India in to a debt trap. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Acharya,
that is exactly on the spot! Graduate
Thats the same reason why i appose Indian-US defence ties.But helll, our politicians are not mature enough to understand washigton's game.
in the end india,china will end up with all messed up.Washigton will be laughing at other end 10,000 miles away at end of this century around 2091.
(Bejan daruwalla has predicted a big WAR between india & china in 2091)
evil west will spring back at end of this century with destruction of two great cultures in india <!--emo&:unsure:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='unsure.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[already due to lack of awareness in indian leaders about strategic games in world we have lost most of things till 1997 which include kashmir problem(due to british game which neharu failed to understand),loss of 1/3 kashmir,late nukes test) and now this game]
India has 3 options ->
1)choose china as closer ally or friend or business partner(its impossible due to lack of contacts between chinese and indian community)
2)choose US as strategic ally(i think we did this suicide already by leaning towards US and also showing hasty interest in missile defense program <!--emo&:thumbdown--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
3)be neutral and treat both as per our needs on case by case basis(WE are too late to think over this BEST OPTION.
We are doing same mistake again which we did in 1965 of ignoring China angle.
When our think tanks think about weapons deals with US(not Israel) they ignore what impact it will have on china-india equations in ASIA.This is a mistake.
We must INCREASE military co-operation with china.We must MAKE clear to US we are no way going to compete with china in defense modernisation.
CHINA will do modernisation bcoz it feels un-secure from WEST.By making defense deals with WEST we are making india-china relations more BAD.
A TIP from me : in long term,friendship with china is better and safer than with West.Bcoz west is noone's friend,never be.While china can become our best friend bcoz
1)we are neighbours
2)we don't have any old rivalry.If there is anything then its border problems which are not any big issues.
3)as far as china's help to pak is concerned it is bcoz china feels india is going closer US and feels in-secure.And india is ONLY INCREASING their feeling by going close and closer to US. IF china is given assurance they are secure from our side then pukki-support will get narrow year by year.(don't expect close-up bcoz china also need weapons market as pukki).
4)A powerfull neighbour in Asia as india's close friend.WHAT can be better thing for india(and most destructing thing for WEST)?......just imagine two biggest economies of world as close friends and neighbour too!!!(so they can fight together with any enemy of them in world!!)
5)Noone in the world(including US,brits) can think of attacking india or china due to this DEADLY combination of 2.5 billion people of ASIA! (this is the main reason why US is always un-easy when indian PM visits china).
6)If you agree with above 5 points then you will agree with me that washigton will DO EVERYTHING in his power and reach to avoid closer india-china relations.US may offer defense missile,phalcon(already did...a mess,it infuriated our neighbour
.......what can be worse THING that can happen to two neighbours in ASIA.....WEST must be laughing how they succeded again keeping DEADLY combination away from meeting... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
Another mess was joint military excercises.Our leaders AGAIN neglected strategic consequences of this act in regard with china-india relations.AGAIN WEST is laughing.....they succeded.
<i><b> One more thing i forgot is that in this game Greatest Victory of West will be lowering the heat between india-RUSSIA relations by PUSHING more modern and latest weapons from ISrael or directly(HTCG-agreement) with India.Reaction of this will be increased HEAT of relations(defense deals) between CHINA and
RUSSIA(they simply need money....so won't mind selling large stuffs...carriers,submarines...updation) to counter the heat between india and US.
</b></i>
so guys think again,who we should go closer with.....having 2 million NRI community in US and more business ties is not enough reason to invite bigger mess and miss more healthy ties(india-china)as it can be superpower of asia which west never wanna see.
MY FINAL WORDS ARE,
<b><i>The Divide And Rule that Brits played with indian kings to rule India some centuries ago,today The Same Game WEST is playing with CHINA and India </b></i>
expect more defense deals from west in coming days... <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> that was my assesment of things.....maybe right..
<b> my suggestion : make realtions with all of our neighbours better first before dealing or running for WEST.bocz,it only our neighbour which matches in culture with us not the greedy West. </b>
thanks.