11-27-2005, 08:38 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->see, dont try to get into a slinging match just cos the refugees problem caused the commies to take over power.
you didnt have half your state/province amputed, nor did all the bpl types of a neighbouring region pour into yours.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But Punjabis did and yet they made their state into one of the most prosperous states and they also solved the Muslim problem in East Punjab in 47 itself so stop giving excuses.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->as for who fought the muslims, the lions share of that is due to the rajputs and the marathas.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Where was this heroic Rajput resistance with the exception of the resistance offered by the House of Mewar, infact most of the other Rajput states were collaborating with Muslims and fighting fellow Hindus (Mansingh fighting Rana Pratap and Jai Singh fighting Shivaji), it was the Marathas who bore the brunt of it.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->aside of hampi/vijaynagar, and maybe on the western coast (under purtuguese), you never came under much stick and thus dont feel the pinch.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Atleast we did contribute our part when we were attacked unlike some states and for the record it was Keladi Chenamma of Karnataka who gave shelter to Rajaram (Shivaji's son) when all the other kings refused to do so and defeated Aurangzebs invasion later as a consequence of his wrath.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->people in bengal were not really OPRESSED by muslims, and so there was little resent. under the brits they bore the brunt and they thus led the resistance.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cooking up excuses are we, this really is a something no one knows, it seems that Muslims had a special affinity for Bengalis to not persecute them while persecuting all others (atleast in your perculiar history they did, is that why Chaitanya had to run to Orissa from Bengal?).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->tell why why do andhraites still consider that tipusultan as some hero ???<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol for a man who speaks so authoratatively about other states I expect some elementary knowledge, Tipu Sultan is from what is today known as Karnataka and did not invade Andhra, he did invade Kerala and massacred Hindus there and no one considers him a hero just because Doordharshan tries to whitewash history and turns him into a patriot and it does not mean that it is the opinion of common people so you better read some real history before you speak like an expert (I am still laughing at your comments about Ambedkar being the saviour of low castes when infact he was a British lackey who was constantly reminding the British of Mahar Loyalty to them and did practically next to nothing for the uplift of low castes).
you didnt have half your state/province amputed, nor did all the bpl types of a neighbouring region pour into yours.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But Punjabis did and yet they made their state into one of the most prosperous states and they also solved the Muslim problem in East Punjab in 47 itself so stop giving excuses.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->as for who fought the muslims, the lions share of that is due to the rajputs and the marathas.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Where was this heroic Rajput resistance with the exception of the resistance offered by the House of Mewar, infact most of the other Rajput states were collaborating with Muslims and fighting fellow Hindus (Mansingh fighting Rana Pratap and Jai Singh fighting Shivaji), it was the Marathas who bore the brunt of it.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->aside of hampi/vijaynagar, and maybe on the western coast (under purtuguese), you never came under much stick and thus dont feel the pinch.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Atleast we did contribute our part when we were attacked unlike some states and for the record it was Keladi Chenamma of Karnataka who gave shelter to Rajaram (Shivaji's son) when all the other kings refused to do so and defeated Aurangzebs invasion later as a consequence of his wrath.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->people in bengal were not really OPRESSED by muslims, and so there was little resent. under the brits they bore the brunt and they thus led the resistance.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cooking up excuses are we, this really is a something no one knows, it seems that Muslims had a special affinity for Bengalis to not persecute them while persecuting all others (atleast in your perculiar history they did, is that why Chaitanya had to run to Orissa from Bengal?).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->tell why why do andhraites still consider that tipusultan as some hero ???<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol for a man who speaks so authoratatively about other states I expect some elementary knowledge, Tipu Sultan is from what is today known as Karnataka and did not invade Andhra, he did invade Kerala and massacred Hindus there and no one considers him a hero just because Doordharshan tries to whitewash history and turns him into a patriot and it does not mean that it is the opinion of common people so you better read some real history before you speak like an expert (I am still laughing at your comments about Ambedkar being the saviour of low castes when infact he was a British lackey who was constantly reminding the British of Mahar Loyalty to them and did practically next to nothing for the uplift of low castes).