12-16-2005, 04:12 AM
Ben Ami,
Could I request you to keep the SNR (signal to noise ratio) high in your posts. There is too much fluff. We would like to read what you have to say, but the impression is often like eating the cotton-candy. Too much work for too little gain.
Also, you have repeatedly shown that you don't do your homework. Please read up and study the subjects on which you want to expound on. It may be very much possible that the people you are hammering on have spent lot many years dealing with the issues on which you have just started to have some fresh brain waves. And if you don't know enough about something, just ask. Someone here who knows may answer.
In short, please speak 'authoritatively' only about the stuff you know well. That is simply a demand for intellectual honesty.
Just to show another instance of your lax standards let me quote:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->now comes the interesting part in hinduism. the writers of the vedas could easily have put their foot down and concocted a "formula" or prescription from the vedas and asked every one to live like that. but instead they merely noted everything down and gave advice (the "Upanishads", which is the last chapter of every veda) to the next generations. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Only "IshAvAsyopaniShad" can be called the last chapter of a Veda, i.e. Yajurveda, where it forms the final 40th Chapter with minor changes.
All other vedic Upanisads are from Aranyakas. Even in the Aranyakas, the Upanisads can be scattered within the text. They don't necessarily form the last chapters of the Aranyakas either. Some upanisads are clubbed together with Brahmanas and called UpaniShad-BrAhmaN, such as Samavedic SamhitopaniShadbrAhmaNa.
Therefore in a literal sense upaniShads do not form last chapters of anything.
But in a figurative sense they are the ultimate, final essences of the Vedic literature and therefore are called "vedAnta = veda+anta" or the end of the vedas.
Could I request you to keep the SNR (signal to noise ratio) high in your posts. There is too much fluff. We would like to read what you have to say, but the impression is often like eating the cotton-candy. Too much work for too little gain.
Also, you have repeatedly shown that you don't do your homework. Please read up and study the subjects on which you want to expound on. It may be very much possible that the people you are hammering on have spent lot many years dealing with the issues on which you have just started to have some fresh brain waves. And if you don't know enough about something, just ask. Someone here who knows may answer.
In short, please speak 'authoritatively' only about the stuff you know well. That is simply a demand for intellectual honesty.
Just to show another instance of your lax standards let me quote:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->now comes the interesting part in hinduism. the writers of the vedas could easily have put their foot down and concocted a "formula" or prescription from the vedas and asked every one to live like that. but instead they merely noted everything down and gave advice (the "Upanishads", which is the last chapter of every veda) to the next generations. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Only "IshAvAsyopaniShad" can be called the last chapter of a Veda, i.e. Yajurveda, where it forms the final 40th Chapter with minor changes.
All other vedic Upanisads are from Aranyakas. Even in the Aranyakas, the Upanisads can be scattered within the text. They don't necessarily form the last chapters of the Aranyakas either. Some upanisads are clubbed together with Brahmanas and called UpaniShad-BrAhmaN, such as Samavedic SamhitopaniShadbrAhmaNa.
Therefore in a literal sense upaniShads do not form last chapters of anything.
But in a figurative sense they are the ultimate, final essences of the Vedic literature and therefore are called "vedAnta = veda+anta" or the end of the vedas.