01-25-2006, 11:45 AM
<b>Hauma,</b>
regarding Post #182. I do agree. There is something viciously evil in the careless way the British treated us Indians. The nazis inexplicably hated their victims, but the Brits didn't even consider us humans. We were some kind of pests for them if they ever did notice us. (I think the grandparents of everyone here would have told them about the famines and other horrid events, and the way they were treated.)
It is strange that Europe is so forgetful or ignorant about what it has done to its colonies. Looking at Africa, a recent news report on the African Union or something was talking about Congo and Sudan's war crimes' records. And then the reporter mentioned the words "the problems of Africa". They all say it as if it is an enigma to them as to how Africa got into this mess. The same with South and SE Asia.
Their callousness is amazing. They wreck entire countries, populations, economies, invent divisions (usually racial ones) and then 50 or so years later, they wonder why these countries are suffering from poverty, misery, war and "ethnic strife and genocide". They have a curious amnesia. But they'll be surprised to find that their victim countries don't suffer from the same.
<b>Mitradena</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Genocide of Hindus in the British Empire will not get the attention it deserves until one of us writes a book on it<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Someone most definitely needs to do this. I've come across (non-political) forums were some ignorant English person (male I'm guessing) said how "at least the British empire brough civilisation to countries like India,...". I fumed but had no pictures then to show of how they killed Indians with famines and robbed India till it was beyond poor. Besides, I did not know how to register back in those days...
www.atributetohinduism.com's page on "European Imperialism" has a few unbearable pictures of the famines in India.
<b>Ben Ami,</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->what makes you think nehru made a better leader???<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think you confused me with someone else there. I hadn't said anything positive about Nehru in the two (or so) instances I ever mentioned his name. In fact, if I had a time machine, I'd make sure he never entered politics and kept to his silly book "The Discovery of India" or whatever it was.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->well you cant take or give a hero from.to anyone<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> My words were "try and steal" - of course one can't.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->at the same time i dont see <b>why i should be quiet about him</b> or anyone who is in my good books.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> I gave the reason (Post #177). It has nothing to do with Bose's patriotism or anything. It is however a rather important reason.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->as a military leader he used to move on par with rommel<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Shudder. You and I are very different people, Ben Ami. But you realised that since the beginning and I've only now come to that conclusion.
regarding Post #182. I do agree. There is something viciously evil in the careless way the British treated us Indians. The nazis inexplicably hated their victims, but the Brits didn't even consider us humans. We were some kind of pests for them if they ever did notice us. (I think the grandparents of everyone here would have told them about the famines and other horrid events, and the way they were treated.)
It is strange that Europe is so forgetful or ignorant about what it has done to its colonies. Looking at Africa, a recent news report on the African Union or something was talking about Congo and Sudan's war crimes' records. And then the reporter mentioned the words "the problems of Africa". They all say it as if it is an enigma to them as to how Africa got into this mess. The same with South and SE Asia.
Their callousness is amazing. They wreck entire countries, populations, economies, invent divisions (usually racial ones) and then 50 or so years later, they wonder why these countries are suffering from poverty, misery, war and "ethnic strife and genocide". They have a curious amnesia. But they'll be surprised to find that their victim countries don't suffer from the same.
<b>Mitradena</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Genocide of Hindus in the British Empire will not get the attention it deserves until one of us writes a book on it<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Someone most definitely needs to do this. I've come across (non-political) forums were some ignorant English person (male I'm guessing) said how "at least the British empire brough civilisation to countries like India,...". I fumed but had no pictures then to show of how they killed Indians with famines and robbed India till it was beyond poor. Besides, I did not know how to register back in those days...
www.atributetohinduism.com's page on "European Imperialism" has a few unbearable pictures of the famines in India.
<b>Ben Ami,</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->what makes you think nehru made a better leader???<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think you confused me with someone else there. I hadn't said anything positive about Nehru in the two (or so) instances I ever mentioned his name. In fact, if I had a time machine, I'd make sure he never entered politics and kept to his silly book "The Discovery of India" or whatever it was.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->well you cant take or give a hero from.to anyone<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> My words were "try and steal" - of course one can't.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->at the same time i dont see <b>why i should be quiet about him</b> or anyone who is in my good books.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> I gave the reason (Post #177). It has nothing to do with Bose's patriotism or anything. It is however a rather important reason.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->as a military leader he used to move on par with rommel<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Shudder. You and I are very different people, Ben Ami. But you realised that since the beginning and I've only now come to that conclusion.