01-25-2006, 04:31 PM
Ben Ami, I overlooked a few things you said earlier:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->i meant to say that i'd prefer an indepedent india over anything.
freedom of indians>>>>>>>>>> hinduism, anyday.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Freedom to be ... nobodies? So a Christian India, independent from the British Empire is alright? An independent Islamic India? An independent Marxist India? (<i>What</i> India?)
I'd rather have an India where the Hindus (and Jains and Buddhists) have kept their culture, a country which will break the oppression and gain its independence but retain its Dharma.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->arjuna cant be compared to netaji maybe,<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You seem to indicate that your ancestors' religion means nothing to you (<i>Hindu</i> atheism* is alright and part of Indian Dharma), that it's nothing more than a quaint part of historical Indian culture. You're right, though. Arjuna can't be compared to Netaji, or vice versa. The two shouldn't have been written in the same sentence. My mistake.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Bharatvarsha:Indian Civilization is inseparable from Sanatana Dharma<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> There is no India, independent or otherwise, without Sanatana Dharma. There is no Arya without Sanatana Dharma and there is nothing to admire about India or its people without the Sanatana Dharma. It is that which has made us great and has shaped us. It is that which made our ancestors the bravest, the wisest, the most resourceful, the most organised, artistic, humanistic - in short, it's what made them excel at all things and be divine.
They should rename India "Mughalstan", the "Holy Christian Empire of India" or the "Socialist Republic of South Asia" or something (United States of America Part II even) if the Dharma ever dwindles in India. It will no longer be my country and its people no longer my people if that ever happens. I won't care what happens to it then and not rejoice in any of their accomplishments. Similar to how the Parsees have broken ties with Islamic Iran (even though they are sympathetic to the minority Zoroastrians in Iran).
What India are you working towards? What's your driving goal? What's your problem with communism, Islam or Christianity? Only that they are rewriting Indian history?
Why should India not break into pieces? What kept it together historically and what should keep it together in future? I want to know.
*A Hindu atheist India is still Hindu, but that's not what you are according to your writings. Because a Hindu atheist is still spiritual and a Hindu in all acts of their life (I have several Hindu atheists in my family, so I know). What are you and what is it you want India to be? Why do you care about Indians as a group? Because we are separated by language, sub-ethnic group, subculture - we have some shared history, over-arching culture and language (Samskrt in the past), that's all. These are not enough to keep a future India together, as the separatists inside and outside are attempting to prove, with some temporary success.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->i meant to say that i'd prefer an indepedent india over anything.
freedom of indians>>>>>>>>>> hinduism, anyday.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Freedom to be ... nobodies? So a Christian India, independent from the British Empire is alright? An independent Islamic India? An independent Marxist India? (<i>What</i> India?)
I'd rather have an India where the Hindus (and Jains and Buddhists) have kept their culture, a country which will break the oppression and gain its independence but retain its Dharma.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->arjuna cant be compared to netaji maybe,<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You seem to indicate that your ancestors' religion means nothing to you (<i>Hindu</i> atheism* is alright and part of Indian Dharma), that it's nothing more than a quaint part of historical Indian culture. You're right, though. Arjuna can't be compared to Netaji, or vice versa. The two shouldn't have been written in the same sentence. My mistake.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Bharatvarsha:Indian Civilization is inseparable from Sanatana Dharma<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> There is no India, independent or otherwise, without Sanatana Dharma. There is no Arya without Sanatana Dharma and there is nothing to admire about India or its people without the Sanatana Dharma. It is that which has made us great and has shaped us. It is that which made our ancestors the bravest, the wisest, the most resourceful, the most organised, artistic, humanistic - in short, it's what made them excel at all things and be divine.
They should rename India "Mughalstan", the "Holy Christian Empire of India" or the "Socialist Republic of South Asia" or something (United States of America Part II even) if the Dharma ever dwindles in India. It will no longer be my country and its people no longer my people if that ever happens. I won't care what happens to it then and not rejoice in any of their accomplishments. Similar to how the Parsees have broken ties with Islamic Iran (even though they are sympathetic to the minority Zoroastrians in Iran).
What India are you working towards? What's your driving goal? What's your problem with communism, Islam or Christianity? Only that they are rewriting Indian history?
Why should India not break into pieces? What kept it together historically and what should keep it together in future? I want to know.
*A Hindu atheist India is still Hindu, but that's not what you are according to your writings. Because a Hindu atheist is still spiritual and a Hindu in all acts of their life (I have several Hindu atheists in my family, so I know). What are you and what is it you want India to be? Why do you care about Indians as a group? Because we are separated by language, sub-ethnic group, subculture - we have some shared history, over-arching culture and language (Samskrt in the past), that's all. These are not enough to keep a future India together, as the separatists inside and outside are attempting to prove, with some temporary success.