01-28-2006, 12:07 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-28-2006, 12:13 AM by Bharatvarsh.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->yes and the solution isnt 5 kids per hindu family but to have a uniform civil code and prevent the camel jockeys from breeding like rabbits.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How does UCC prevent Muslim population growth?, polygamy is not the reason that the Muslim rate of growth is so high, even with one wife they have more kids. Further more people among Hindus (if you include the tribals) practice polygamy even though it is illegal for Hindus than among Muslims so how come Hindu population is still slipping? and the female male sex ratio among Hindus and Muslims are close 931 per 1000 for Hindus 936 per 1000 for Muslims so even if Muslims want to be even more polygamist they can't be because of female shortage.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->as for whay bengal was partioned - thats cos the english wanted to weaken the one province from which the real (ie. un gandhian) major anti-pom battle was waged.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whether the British wanted to weaken Bengal or not is immaterial here, the prime reason for partition again was the fact that Bengal was Muslim majority so naturally according to partition logic East Bengal went to Muslims.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->as to how bengal became a muslim majority state - a combination of reasons. bengal basically had the brahmhinical storoghold of Gour and a lot of lower caste people (artisans, farmers, dhakai muslin silk weavers etc) - who converted to islam en-masse. the rest is the same old story of how islamics believed in having as many wives and kids (legit and ill-legit) as possible so that the dar-ul-harb would be over run by the children of islam. for a good account read the last chapter of Nirad C Choudhury's "the east is east and the west is west" where he talks about the hindu-muslim problem in india with a h-u-g-e list of references and allusions to prove his points. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bengal may have had a brahminical stronghold or whatever stronghold but its an outright lie to claim that Bengal went to Muslim majority because of conversions, as late as 1800's Bengal was still Hindu majority, then Bengal came under British influence and Hindus caught the disease of family planning while the Muslims continued to have as many kids as they could and finally gained majority, lets look at post partition scenario, during partition Muslims were 23% and now they are over 30% and heading to 40%, there is no Brahminical stronghold anymore and still whole states are on the way to becoming Muslim majority, in Kerala till until 1961 Muslims were about 17%, now they are 23% and heading to 33%, all this when Muslims are more wealthy and control politics and dominate Kerala more than Hindus and even have almost the same literacy as Hindus. No one will implement UCC in the near future, those who bank on police, military and laws to protect them from Muslims are fools. Here is a quote from "Religious demography of India" by M.D Srinivas:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In 1901, Indian Religionists formed 33.9 percent of the population of Bangladesh; their proportion declined to 29.6 percent in the forty years from 1901 to 1941
http://esamskriti.com/html/new_essay_page....id=156&count1=2<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So in a mere 40 years Hindus went down more than 4% in East Bengal, till 47 riots there was no major exodus of Hindus into West Bengal so the 4% was mainly lost due to Muslim overbreeding, that is how Bengal became Muslim majority, by 1800's Muslim power had vanished and Bengal was still Hindu majority so demographic war by Muslims was the main reason that it became Muslim majority.
How does UCC prevent Muslim population growth?, polygamy is not the reason that the Muslim rate of growth is so high, even with one wife they have more kids. Further more people among Hindus (if you include the tribals) practice polygamy even though it is illegal for Hindus than among Muslims so how come Hindu population is still slipping? and the female male sex ratio among Hindus and Muslims are close 931 per 1000 for Hindus 936 per 1000 for Muslims so even if Muslims want to be even more polygamist they can't be because of female shortage.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->as for whay bengal was partioned - thats cos the english wanted to weaken the one province from which the real (ie. un gandhian) major anti-pom battle was waged.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whether the British wanted to weaken Bengal or not is immaterial here, the prime reason for partition again was the fact that Bengal was Muslim majority so naturally according to partition logic East Bengal went to Muslims.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->as to how bengal became a muslim majority state - a combination of reasons. bengal basically had the brahmhinical storoghold of Gour and a lot of lower caste people (artisans, farmers, dhakai muslin silk weavers etc) - who converted to islam en-masse. the rest is the same old story of how islamics believed in having as many wives and kids (legit and ill-legit) as possible so that the dar-ul-harb would be over run by the children of islam. for a good account read the last chapter of Nirad C Choudhury's "the east is east and the west is west" where he talks about the hindu-muslim problem in india with a h-u-g-e list of references and allusions to prove his points. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bengal may have had a brahminical stronghold or whatever stronghold but its an outright lie to claim that Bengal went to Muslim majority because of conversions, as late as 1800's Bengal was still Hindu majority, then Bengal came under British influence and Hindus caught the disease of family planning while the Muslims continued to have as many kids as they could and finally gained majority, lets look at post partition scenario, during partition Muslims were 23% and now they are over 30% and heading to 40%, there is no Brahminical stronghold anymore and still whole states are on the way to becoming Muslim majority, in Kerala till until 1961 Muslims were about 17%, now they are 23% and heading to 33%, all this when Muslims are more wealthy and control politics and dominate Kerala more than Hindus and even have almost the same literacy as Hindus. No one will implement UCC in the near future, those who bank on police, military and laws to protect them from Muslims are fools. Here is a quote from "Religious demography of India" by M.D Srinivas:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In 1901, Indian Religionists formed 33.9 percent of the population of Bangladesh; their proportion declined to 29.6 percent in the forty years from 1901 to 1941
http://esamskriti.com/html/new_essay_page....id=156&count1=2<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So in a mere 40 years Hindus went down more than 4% in East Bengal, till 47 riots there was no major exodus of Hindus into West Bengal so the 4% was mainly lost due to Muslim overbreeding, that is how Bengal became Muslim majority, by 1800's Muslim power had vanished and Bengal was still Hindu majority so demographic war by Muslims was the main reason that it became Muslim majority.