02-13-2006, 01:22 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Sunder+Feb 13 2006, 06:21 AM-->QUOTE(Sunder @ Feb 13 2006, 06:21 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-ben_ami+Feb 13 2006, 05:57 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ben_ami @ Feb 13 2006, 05:57 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->whoa !!! check out this line from that passage (quoted from vivekananda) -
""Manu's name for the whole central region between the Himalayas and the Vindhya mountains is Aryavarta, Abode of the Aryans.""
<b>would someone please give the explaination of that??</b>
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Georg Bühler's translation of Manusmrti, Oxford 1886 (public domain)
2.17. That land, created by the gods, which lies between the two divine rivers Sarasvati and Drishadvati, the (sages) call Brahmavarta.
2.18. The custom handed down in regular succession (since time immemorial) among the four varna and the mixed varnas of that country, is called the conduct of virtuous men.
2.19. The plain of the Kurus, the (country of the) Matsyas, Pankalas, and Surasenakas, these form the country of the Brahmarshis (Brahmanical sages, which ranks) immediately after Brahmavarta.
2.20. From a Brahmana, born in that country, let all men on earth learn their several usages.
2.21. That country which lies between the Himavat and the Vindhya (mountains) to the east of Prayaga and to the west of Vinasana (the place where the river Sarasvati disappears) is called Madhyadesa (the central region).
<b>2.22. But (the tract) between those two mountains (just mentioned), which (extends) as far as the eastern and the western oceans, the wise call Aryavarta.</b>
2.23. That land where the black antelope naturally roams, one must know to be fit for the performance of sacrifices; (the tract) different from that (is) the country of the Mlecchas (barbarians).
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thanks for the reply. though i am presently surprised to see that a translation by a foreigner was deemed fit.
but please explain 2.21. if i got it right it means, the land between himalaya (northern boundary), vindya (south), prayag (east) and vinasana (west) is called the madhyadesh.
and as an aside, in 2.23, where exactly is this land of Mlechhas/land where the black antelope roams?? is it in india??
""Manu's name for the whole central region between the Himalayas and the Vindhya mountains is Aryavarta, Abode of the Aryans.""
<b>would someone please give the explaination of that??</b>
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Georg Bühler's translation of Manusmrti, Oxford 1886 (public domain)
2.17. That land, created by the gods, which lies between the two divine rivers Sarasvati and Drishadvati, the (sages) call Brahmavarta.
2.18. The custom handed down in regular succession (since time immemorial) among the four varna and the mixed varnas of that country, is called the conduct of virtuous men.
2.19. The plain of the Kurus, the (country of the) Matsyas, Pankalas, and Surasenakas, these form the country of the Brahmarshis (Brahmanical sages, which ranks) immediately after Brahmavarta.
2.20. From a Brahmana, born in that country, let all men on earth learn their several usages.
2.21. That country which lies between the Himavat and the Vindhya (mountains) to the east of Prayaga and to the west of Vinasana (the place where the river Sarasvati disappears) is called Madhyadesa (the central region).
<b>2.22. But (the tract) between those two mountains (just mentioned), which (extends) as far as the eastern and the western oceans, the wise call Aryavarta.</b>
2.23. That land where the black antelope naturally roams, one must know to be fit for the performance of sacrifices; (the tract) different from that (is) the country of the Mlecchas (barbarians).
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thanks for the reply. though i am presently surprised to see that a translation by a foreigner was deemed fit.
but please explain 2.21. if i got it right it means, the land between himalaya (northern boundary), vindya (south), prayag (east) and vinasana (west) is called the madhyadesh.
and as an aside, in 2.23, where exactly is this land of Mlechhas/land where the black antelope roams?? is it in india??