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Miscellaneous Topics on Indian History
WRT: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/24215
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/24232


Making comments on history based on school level popular text and then
playing to gallery is a job of politicians. I refuse to be a party! I
posted a gist of analysis on
posting:
24176 (Sirajdoula: clarification from history).

So far I have not seen anybody contested the analysis or posted
anything that contradicts my major claims. So you need to explain
point-by-point where did you find 'pretension' in my posting. If you
fail to do so, it will be proven that you are just playing to the
gallery like a politician.

It is also a myth that history of this period can not be derived
accurately. Several communications between Nawab and French generals
in Chandan Nagar, communications between Krishna Chandra, Jagat seth
brothers, Gaseti Begam, Raj Ballavs, Clive's own communication to East
India company are documented history. If one goes through their
letters, most of the history will be crystal clear. At least I have
not seen any puzzle. So please do not try to mislead !

Second popular myth you want us to digest: British created
communalism among Bengalis which was non-existent before British
period.This is a complete bullshitting and brainwashing of school
childrens.

Communalism among Bengalis can be best understood through
Marxist analysis. Muslims were majority among Bengalis but all the
landlords were Hindues. By mid 19th century, most of the muslims
become landless labor. Endless exploitation by Hindu zamindars of
their muslim subjects become unbearable. Struggle of the landless
against the landlords become inevitable.

However every revolution needs some ideology and leaders. Since
, majority of the oppressed were muslims and oppressors were Hindues,
Wahabi version of Islam suited the need of the time. So Wahabi
character like Titumir was born who called for the freedom of muslim
farmers (Jihad) from the hand of Hindu zamindars and their master
British Govt.So which would have been a glorious class struggle,
unfortunately took the turn of Islamic Jihad. Bengali muslims were
originally follower of sufi version ( which was the biggest reason why
there was no major communal tension in Bengal ) but their conversion
to Wahabi version ( which is
still continuing in Bangladesh) due to exploitation of Hindu zamindars
marked the begining of communualism in Bengal.

Indeed it was clear order from East India company to their
Governor Generals that they should not interfare with the religious
practice of the local people. Lord Bentik was first to break this rule
in 1824 when he declared Satidaha system illegal. He had to write
several letters to company headquarter to convince that British needs
to interfare in this case and that British rulers have responsibility
to civilize local people. " ONE MUST GO THROUGH THESE LETTERS BEFORE
COMMENTING THAT BRITISH WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DIVIDE"

Thanks to Lord Bentik, East India company started introducing
weastern civilization into our culture. His contribution to Bengal,
is much bigger than any Nawab, any king or any ruler of Bengal for
last 2000 years!

However, before Bentik, most of the Governor generals were greedy
generals who took bribes from all the sources and exploited Bengal in
all possible ways.

That is ofcourse, if we agree that we want to analyze history like a
true historian and not like a politician to win cheap popularity.
Nationalist, Islamist, Hindu zealots, pseudosecularists are different
sides of the same dice.


-Biplab


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