05-14-2006, 04:53 PM
having read this thread and having gotten a whiff of ravi chaudhury's views on 'jats,' i am in strong disagreement with all here who have tried to label him a firebrand casteist (his nasal index theory notwithstanding - raviji, i read a passing comment here about your nasal index theory and jats: is this theory ascribable to you? if so, could you elaborate/link? tia). i do not think ethnic pride, a thing to be cherished, really trangsgresses into ethnic chauvinism here (as many have feared) for i believe raviji puts forth cogent arguments and his theory/history of the jats is quite inclusive. but i think he has, other than for harshavardhana, forgotten to include some prominent (and obviously jat) figures of our history in his 'ethnically jat' subset:
1) chandragupta maurya,
2) kautilya/chanakya,
3) iskander aka alexander,
4) swami vivekananda,
5) mahatma gandhi,
6) chhatrapati shivaji,
7) netaji subhash chandra bose,
8) sachin tendulkar,
9) madam bhikaji cama
10) john lennon,
11) bruce springsteen...
...and a few others. i trust this shouldn't be difficult to accomplish in the near future with deeper forays into linguistic archaeology as dahiya, ex-IAS, RCPS, panipat, BDMNOP, EFG, QLMNOP, PhDP (whose name raviji wisely forwarded as that of a historian of repute to counter opinions of dilettantes like some airavat singh upthread), meticulously engages in to unravel the origins of the jat clans. dahiya argues that the caspian sea was once called the sea of gillian. thus gills were a jat clan hailing from that area. thus irish/brit gillens were jats. similarly, thomas mann, like gurdas mann, was also jat - both hailing from the same bhillage near caspian sea.
1) chandragupta maurya,
2) kautilya/chanakya,
3) iskander aka alexander,
4) swami vivekananda,
5) mahatma gandhi,
6) chhatrapati shivaji,
7) netaji subhash chandra bose,
8) sachin tendulkar,
9) madam bhikaji cama
10) john lennon,
11) bruce springsteen...
...and a few others. i trust this shouldn't be difficult to accomplish in the near future with deeper forays into linguistic archaeology as dahiya, ex-IAS, RCPS, panipat, BDMNOP, EFG, QLMNOP, PhDP (whose name raviji wisely forwarded as that of a historian of repute to counter opinions of dilettantes like some airavat singh upthread), meticulously engages in to unravel the origins of the jat clans. dahiya argues that the caspian sea was once called the sea of gillian. thus gills were a jat clan hailing from that area. thus irish/brit gillens were jats. similarly, thomas mann, like gurdas mann, was also jat - both hailing from the same bhillage near caspian sea.