07-23-2006, 09:34 AM
So you fundamentalist Xtian's are finally here too, thanks for joining in.
The Pope and Catholicism is the single largest Christian group and his opinion is very important. The point is that a large number of the Xtian senior leadership is very intolerant in their rhetoric as it concerns Hindus. BTW the Pope was a member of the Hitler Youth, his explanation is that he was forced into it (sure he was ..., now if Germany had won WW-2 then it would be different). Infact even the Pope during WW-2 is shown in a photo giving a heil Hitler. Hitler himself was a devout Christian and used Christian rhetoric regularly in his speeches.
The fact that every Pope has been White is significant, because it's you Xtian extremists that keep attacking us Hindus for the caste system, so it's only appropriate that caste systems in the Vatican and Latin America be exposed.
As far as untouchable being a caste is complete nonsense, it's a bunch of dissimilar Jati groups that have suffered local ethnic discrmination by other Jati's, many of them also categorised as lower caste or whatever. So, this idea that there are these evil Brahmins controlling the rest of the Hindus is primarily British colonial Christian propaganda that's continued today by Evangelical fundamentalists and Indian xtian extremists. BTW, many Indian Xtian's have a caste system that's even worse than the Hindus.
Xtian history (in the Roman Empire and ancient Greece) has shown that they quickly seek to destroy the intellectual power base of rival religions, so this anti-Brahmin hate campaign started by the British had that aim too no doubt.
You seem like you want to work with us, can you convince France and Italy to recognize Hinduism as a religion as they have with other major world religions?
The ball is in the court of extremist evangelical xtian's like yourself. When you are ready to live side by side in a civilized way with other religions, let us know. Sugar coating the church's brutality in Latin America or Goa isn't going to win you any supporters.
<!--QuoteBegin-paulose+Jul 23 2006, 12:43 AM-->QUOTE(paulose @ Jul 23 2006, 12:43 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Let me interfere here, of course with your permission. Cool down. Any body can cal any names on others. Becoming outrageuos wil not do any good. Pope is the religuious head of a division of Christianity, Catholics. Out of the 2.5 billion Christians only 1 billion consider him as their leader. That means more Christians arte outside his dontrol. And more over Pope is only the spiritrual head of the Catholics. He does not have any other sort of jurisdiction.
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<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Xtians have a long way to go to earn our respect, they can start by first acknowlegding us as a religion! Maybe the pope can eat some humble pie, and try talking to HIndus decently like he does with Jews and Muslims. He also needs to acknowledge Xtian crimes commited against Hindus in Goa etc.
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I think you have got a wrong impression about Goan inquistion. It could be due to your idea from some web site only. Try to know the other side or any independent views. Inquistion and especilly Goan inquisition was a tribunal to punish erring BELIEVERS, not any NON BELIEVERS. Inquisition was directed aginst members of the Catholic church. I acknowledge that it was avvery very cruel method of indictment and punishing. No Hindu was ever punished in the inquisition.
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The Pope and Catholicism is the single largest Christian group and his opinion is very important. The point is that a large number of the Xtian senior leadership is very intolerant in their rhetoric as it concerns Hindus. BTW the Pope was a member of the Hitler Youth, his explanation is that he was forced into it (sure he was ..., now if Germany had won WW-2 then it would be different). Infact even the Pope during WW-2 is shown in a photo giving a heil Hitler. Hitler himself was a devout Christian and used Christian rhetoric regularly in his speeches.
The fact that every Pope has been White is significant, because it's you Xtian extremists that keep attacking us Hindus for the caste system, so it's only appropriate that caste systems in the Vatican and Latin America be exposed.
As far as untouchable being a caste is complete nonsense, it's a bunch of dissimilar Jati groups that have suffered local ethnic discrmination by other Jati's, many of them also categorised as lower caste or whatever. So, this idea that there are these evil Brahmins controlling the rest of the Hindus is primarily British colonial Christian propaganda that's continued today by Evangelical fundamentalists and Indian xtian extremists. BTW, many Indian Xtian's have a caste system that's even worse than the Hindus.
Xtian history (in the Roman Empire and ancient Greece) has shown that they quickly seek to destroy the intellectual power base of rival religions, so this anti-Brahmin hate campaign started by the British had that aim too no doubt.
You seem like you want to work with us, can you convince France and Italy to recognize Hinduism as a religion as they have with other major world religions?
The ball is in the court of extremist evangelical xtian's like yourself. When you are ready to live side by side in a civilized way with other religions, let us know. Sugar coating the church's brutality in Latin America or Goa isn't going to win you any supporters.
<!--QuoteBegin-paulose+Jul 23 2006, 12:43 AM-->QUOTE(paulose @ Jul 23 2006, 12:43 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Let me interfere here, of course with your permission. Cool down. Any body can cal any names on others. Becoming outrageuos wil not do any good. Pope is the religuious head of a division of Christianity, Catholics. Out of the 2.5 billion Christians only 1 billion consider him as their leader. That means more Christians arte outside his dontrol. And more over Pope is only the spiritrual head of the Catholics. He does not have any other sort of jurisdiction.
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<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Xtians have a long way to go to earn our respect, they can start by first acknowlegding us as a religion! Maybe the pope can eat some humble pie, and try talking to HIndus decently like he does with Jews and Muslims. He also needs to acknowledge Xtian crimes commited against Hindus in Goa etc.
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I think you have got a wrong impression about Goan inquistion. It could be due to your idea from some web site only. Try to know the other side or any independent views. Inquistion and especilly Goan inquisition was a tribunal to punish erring BELIEVERS, not any NON BELIEVERS. Inquisition was directed aginst members of the Catholic church. I acknowledge that it was avvery very cruel method of indictment and punishing. No Hindu was ever punished in the inquisition.
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