07-23-2006, 01:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-mitradena+Jul 23 2006, 09:58 AM-->QUOTE(mitradena @ Jul 23 2006, 09:58 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->
Because of the existance of a clear historical record.
Also the Jivanmuktas or the great saints <b>who have actually seen God have given live testimony to this.</b>
There are thousands of Yogis in India who perform any number of miracles you can imagine.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is no historical records about Rama or Krishna. That belief is based on two books, Ramayana and Mahabharatha. Like that Bible is also a book for Christians. Based on that they believe in their God.
If you go through Christianity's history, you can see many refferences of people who have seen Jesus Christ and other saints. There are many pilgrim centres where these saints and God appeared. There are a few in India as well.
There a re a lot of people al over the world who perform miracles. Do you believe all those are saints?
Do you know anybody personally who has seen God? If yogis can do miracles, why donot you become a Yogi and save this world from bogus religions?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There is clear proof that people are reborn after they die.
Re-incarnation is very true.
In most cases there memory of previous lives remains submerged in the sub-conscious mind.
In rare cases the person retains memory of the past life.
It is through these cases we can prove that re-incarnation is true.
Read this book:
http://www.sivananda.com/afterdeath.htm
Thousands of Psychics & spiritologists have done research on various topics.
Many reputed people including American actress Jane Seymour have out of body experiences.
Many American Police departments take the help of Psychics to help solve difficult crimes.
Are you saying all these people are liars and cheats?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I never contended on the issue of rebirth and reincarnations. So this sounds irrelevant for me.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Since Islam & Xtianity stubbornly refuse to believe in these facts, we can clearly see that they are bogus religions.
You think this Universe is some kind of joke?
You think you can blabber some nonsense and pass that for the truth?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am totally clueless about this point. I never claimed any religion be true or any other as bogus. These are personal beliefs. Hindus belive that Hindusim is the true one and others are bogus. Similarly others believe that Hindusim is bogus. Strictly personal. One can not destroy one and protect the other. Ultimately it is people's choice. Islamic countries strictly forbid conversion. But there are many Non Muslims in those countries. Even if suppressed they believe secretly. So force does not have much value in the issue of beliefs.
Communism suppressed all religions for decades. But today Russia is deepily religious.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->We need to use our brain to find out what is the divine force behind this universe?
Who/what/where is this force?
We need to find out what is the true nature of God.
<b>
Where do you think you are going to go after you die?
You think you are going to disappear into thin air?
</b>
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If we need to find out all these, religion does not have any bearing on anybody's life. People will find out truth some day.
Because of the existance of a clear historical record.
Also the Jivanmuktas or the great saints <b>who have actually seen God have given live testimony to this.</b>
There are thousands of Yogis in India who perform any number of miracles you can imagine.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is no historical records about Rama or Krishna. That belief is based on two books, Ramayana and Mahabharatha. Like that Bible is also a book for Christians. Based on that they believe in their God.
If you go through Christianity's history, you can see many refferences of people who have seen Jesus Christ and other saints. There are many pilgrim centres where these saints and God appeared. There are a few in India as well.
There a re a lot of people al over the world who perform miracles. Do you believe all those are saints?
Do you know anybody personally who has seen God? If yogis can do miracles, why donot you become a Yogi and save this world from bogus religions?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There is clear proof that people are reborn after they die.
Re-incarnation is very true.
In most cases there memory of previous lives remains submerged in the sub-conscious mind.
In rare cases the person retains memory of the past life.
It is through these cases we can prove that re-incarnation is true.
Read this book:
http://www.sivananda.com/afterdeath.htm
Thousands of Psychics & spiritologists have done research on various topics.
Many reputed people including American actress Jane Seymour have out of body experiences.
Many American Police departments take the help of Psychics to help solve difficult crimes.
Are you saying all these people are liars and cheats?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I never contended on the issue of rebirth and reincarnations. So this sounds irrelevant for me.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Since Islam & Xtianity stubbornly refuse to believe in these facts, we can clearly see that they are bogus religions.
You think this Universe is some kind of joke?
You think you can blabber some nonsense and pass that for the truth?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am totally clueless about this point. I never claimed any religion be true or any other as bogus. These are personal beliefs. Hindus belive that Hindusim is the true one and others are bogus. Similarly others believe that Hindusim is bogus. Strictly personal. One can not destroy one and protect the other. Ultimately it is people's choice. Islamic countries strictly forbid conversion. But there are many Non Muslims in those countries. Even if suppressed they believe secretly. So force does not have much value in the issue of beliefs.
Communism suppressed all religions for decades. But today Russia is deepily religious.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->We need to use our brain to find out what is the divine force behind this universe?
Who/what/where is this force?
We need to find out what is the true nature of God.
<b>
Where do you think you are going to go after you die?
You think you are going to disappear into thin air?
</b>
[right][snapback]54383[/snapback][/right]
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If we need to find out all these, religion does not have any bearing on anybody's life. People will find out truth some day.