07-23-2006, 09:32 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There is no historical records about Rama or Krishna. That belief is based on two books, Ramayana and Mahabharatha.
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There are clear records for Rama & Krishna.
There are entire communities who are descended from them.
Even if they both are myths, what do I care?
I care about the absolute truth.
Long before Rama or Krishna, Manu declared that Brahman is the absolute truth.
Manu has stated that even before the universe was created Brahman was the absolute truth.
Where was this Jesus Christ at that time?
Hatching eggs?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Like that Bible is also a book for Christians. Based on that they believe in their God.
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No it is not. The Bible is the book of the Jews.
Christians have taken their book and added all kinds of nonsense to it.
There is even a genealogical tree for Jesus claiming he was a direct descendent of Abraham. Now Orthodox Jews don't accept this. So we know this is a fraud.
This is the reason that Christians have been trying to wipe out the Jews, so all their nonsense can be passed for truth.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If you go through Christianity's history, you can see many refferences of people who have seen Jesus Christ and other saints.
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What references?
Did you go through http://www.jesusneverexisted.com?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There are many pilgrim centres where these saints and God appeared. There are a few in India as well.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No doubt that men all over the world must have seen God.
India does not hold any monopoly over God.
God is not the private property of the Hindus.
I am talking about Jesus not God.
I am saying that Jesus is a fictional character.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There a re a lot of people al over the world who perform miracles. Do you believe all those are saints?
Do you know anybody personally who has seen God? If yogis can do miracles, why donot you become a Yogi and save this world from bogus religions?
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I don't believe in every saint.
Some of the miracles are true, some are false.
We need to use our brain to find out what is true and what is false.
I don't know anyone personally who has seen God.
I am trying to investigate the truth about God and trying to see this being for myself. Why don't you also start investigating the truth?
Don't you think this is relevant to your life?
I don't need to "save the world". This is an Abrahamic concept.
If there is a God, it can take care of the world. Why should I bother?
My job is to find find whether I exist after I die or not.
If I will exist then in what format will I exist?
This I need to find out.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I never contended on the issue of rebirth and reincarnations. So this sounds irrelevant for me.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes it is. If re-incarnation is true than it implies that I exist after I die.
This is a great consolation for me. It removes the fear of death.
I feel very happy.
Every man deep inside would like to be immortal. Wouldn't you agree?
If you had a choice would you not prefer to live for ever?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am totally clueless about this point. I never claimed any religion be true or any other as bogus. These are personal beliefs. Hindus belive that Hindusim is the true one and others are bogus. Similarly others believe that Hindusim is bogus. Strictly personal.
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What do I care what people believe in?
I want to know what is the absolute truth.
Since when did truth become a personal thing?
Either something is true or it is false regardless of how dear that belief is to me.
There is no such thing as Hinduism.
We are forced to use the word now to distinguish ourselves from the moronic cults that have come up in the last 2000 years.
First you say that no religion is true.
Then you get very touchy when I prove that Jesus never exsited.
Why?
What does Jesus have to do with you?
If he never existed why are so bothered?
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Either the atheists are correct and we will not exist after we die.
Or we are immortal souls who were never created and will not be destroyed.
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Either case why do I need a fictional character called Jesus to "save" me?
If he is that important than what about Superman or Spiderman or Obi Wan Kenobi. Maybe they can save me too?
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There are clear records for Rama & Krishna.
There are entire communities who are descended from them.
Even if they both are myths, what do I care?
I care about the absolute truth.
Long before Rama or Krishna, Manu declared that Brahman is the absolute truth.
Manu has stated that even before the universe was created Brahman was the absolute truth.
Where was this Jesus Christ at that time?
Hatching eggs?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Like that Bible is also a book for Christians. Based on that they believe in their God.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it is not. The Bible is the book of the Jews.
Christians have taken their book and added all kinds of nonsense to it.
There is even a genealogical tree for Jesus claiming he was a direct descendent of Abraham. Now Orthodox Jews don't accept this. So we know this is a fraud.
This is the reason that Christians have been trying to wipe out the Jews, so all their nonsense can be passed for truth.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If you go through Christianity's history, you can see many refferences of people who have seen Jesus Christ and other saints.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What references?
Did you go through http://www.jesusneverexisted.com?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There are many pilgrim centres where these saints and God appeared. There are a few in India as well.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No doubt that men all over the world must have seen God.
India does not hold any monopoly over God.
God is not the private property of the Hindus.
I am talking about Jesus not God.
I am saying that Jesus is a fictional character.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There a re a lot of people al over the world who perform miracles. Do you believe all those are saints?
Do you know anybody personally who has seen God? If yogis can do miracles, why donot you become a Yogi and save this world from bogus religions?
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't believe in every saint.
Some of the miracles are true, some are false.
We need to use our brain to find out what is true and what is false.
I don't know anyone personally who has seen God.
I am trying to investigate the truth about God and trying to see this being for myself. Why don't you also start investigating the truth?
Don't you think this is relevant to your life?
I don't need to "save the world". This is an Abrahamic concept.
If there is a God, it can take care of the world. Why should I bother?
My job is to find find whether I exist after I die or not.
If I will exist then in what format will I exist?
This I need to find out.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I never contended on the issue of rebirth and reincarnations. So this sounds irrelevant for me.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes it is. If re-incarnation is true than it implies that I exist after I die.
This is a great consolation for me. It removes the fear of death.
I feel very happy.
Every man deep inside would like to be immortal. Wouldn't you agree?
If you had a choice would you not prefer to live for ever?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am totally clueless about this point. I never claimed any religion be true or any other as bogus. These are personal beliefs. Hindus belive that Hindusim is the true one and others are bogus. Similarly others believe that Hindusim is bogus. Strictly personal.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What do I care what people believe in?
I want to know what is the absolute truth.
Since when did truth become a personal thing?
Either something is true or it is false regardless of how dear that belief is to me.
There is no such thing as Hinduism.
We are forced to use the word now to distinguish ourselves from the moronic cults that have come up in the last 2000 years.
First you say that no religion is true.
Then you get very touchy when I prove that Jesus never exsited.
Why?
What does Jesus have to do with you?
If he never existed why are so bothered?
<b>
Either the atheists are correct and we will not exist after we die.
Or we are immortal souls who were never created and will not be destroyed.
</b>
Either case why do I need a fictional character called Jesus to "save" me?
If he is that important than what about Superman or Spiderman or Obi Wan Kenobi. Maybe they can save me too?