07-24-2006, 04:59 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->K R Narayanan deserved a second term. But it was denied for him by BJP. Instead elected a Muslim.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And why did he 'deserve' second term? BJP didn't fire Narayanan, just that his term was over and they thought Abdul Kalam was and is a better man. Can we leave it at that should we accept that Narayanan was better because Paulose here says so (without providing any info to back it up)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->That is greatness of India and the secular nature of India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Seems like you are talking from both sides of your mouth, didn't you just state that BJP denied Narayanan second term?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Whether Christian country does that is immeterial.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why? Every Christina country be it US, UK, France, Germany has yet to appoint or elect a single minority to it's highest office and still around to offer gratutious unsolicited advise on how India should behave around?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Europeans used Christianity to colonise world. If they were Hindus, Mulims or Parsees, they could have done the same. That is not fault of Christianity<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Parsees and Hindus have not colonized anyone have they? Or your position is that colonization is just an European trait?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I had wrote in another post about Hindus killed in 1000s of wars fought by Hindus before the appearance of Christianity<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So, there were wars when there were no other religions around right? So Hindus didn't impose religious wars stating my God's is bigger than yours. All started after Christianity and Islam appeared. Here I have to agree with you.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->History of mankind is that of war as well. Even if Christianity was not there still there could have been wars.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Perfectly right. But Christanity provided the right impetus to go on war since God or Pope said so. Religious wars started only with advent of Christanity. So did preadotry conversion practices, inquistions and desire to 'save' everyone else in the world by killing him if he didn't accept Christ as a savior.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Belief in God, religion and myths about religion have no logic at all. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
True. But whenever convenient, you'll not loose a moment to use religion to deride someone elses religion or use your own to steal land/property for others. For example: crusades in Middle East and Europe, colonization of Latin America, Asia and Africa 16th century onwards. These days it's war by other means - covert missionary activities coupled with "human rights" organizations.
And this is not the story of all religions. Christians or those who use Christanity take the cake here.
And why did he 'deserve' second term? BJP didn't fire Narayanan, just that his term was over and they thought Abdul Kalam was and is a better man. Can we leave it at that should we accept that Narayanan was better because Paulose here says so (without providing any info to back it up)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->That is greatness of India and the secular nature of India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Seems like you are talking from both sides of your mouth, didn't you just state that BJP denied Narayanan second term?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Whether Christian country does that is immeterial.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why? Every Christina country be it US, UK, France, Germany has yet to appoint or elect a single minority to it's highest office and still around to offer gratutious unsolicited advise on how India should behave around?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Europeans used Christianity to colonise world. If they were Hindus, Mulims or Parsees, they could have done the same. That is not fault of Christianity<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Parsees and Hindus have not colonized anyone have they? Or your position is that colonization is just an European trait?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I had wrote in another post about Hindus killed in 1000s of wars fought by Hindus before the appearance of Christianity<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So, there were wars when there were no other religions around right? So Hindus didn't impose religious wars stating my God's is bigger than yours. All started after Christianity and Islam appeared. Here I have to agree with you.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->History of mankind is that of war as well. Even if Christianity was not there still there could have been wars.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Perfectly right. But Christanity provided the right impetus to go on war since God or Pope said so. Religious wars started only with advent of Christanity. So did preadotry conversion practices, inquistions and desire to 'save' everyone else in the world by killing him if he didn't accept Christ as a savior.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Belief in God, religion and myths about religion have no logic at all. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
True. But whenever convenient, you'll not loose a moment to use religion to deride someone elses religion or use your own to steal land/property for others. For example: crusades in Middle East and Europe, colonization of Latin America, Asia and Africa 16th century onwards. These days it's war by other means - covert missionary activities coupled with "human rights" organizations.
And this is not the story of all religions. Christians or those who use Christanity take the cake here.