07-26-2006, 02:02 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->You assert that you find christianity to be the most positive belief system and realisitc. I still have failed to see your enthusiasm. Your empty assertion is akin to a neo-Nazi's emphatic declaration that 'blacks are inferior beings.' No scientific evidence, rational argument is going to alter his 'belief.' He beliefs what he wants to, even if his claims are totally unsubstantiated.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, my friend, I'm at a bit of a loss...how does one substantiate belief in spiritual things? If I quote the Bible you guys pour scorn on it, though it is as historical a document as any other ancient text, as far as its narratives are concerned. If I quote josephus or tacitus, someone else says Christians have changed their records!! Its "heads you lose, tails I win", isn't it? ;-)
To repeat, though, I think following Christ is realistic, because Christianity accepts that human beings tend to sin moe than tend to be good...as reading through this discussion on religion will clearly show!! What venom, what sarcasm and what one-up-manship we all practise on each other, don't we? Sorry, I cannot buy the "Homo sapiens-are-divine" doctrine. Homo sapiens stink. Christians stink, as you people have been pointing out all along, and I agree. I stink. ;-)
I find it positive because after accepting that, it tells us how we can change. It tells us how God still loves us, though we choose to go our own way, hating and harming others, all of us, of all religions. It tells me that God in Christ paid the price for my sins, and can now give me a new life, slate wiped clean. It tells me I should henceforth follow God's way, not my own, and I try, though like I said, i can hardly boast about my success!! But I try. If I stop trying and give in to my old kick-the-other-fellow nature, then there is a definite break in my relationship with God, and I know forgiveness and peace only when I have broken down and said Sorry...to God and to the fellow I kicked.
If that isn't good news, what is? ;-). And you blame me for wanting to tell others about this wonderful, loving Saviour and free gift of new life?
True, many Christians have made many mistakes in the way they have done it...didn't I tell you Christians stink?? :-)
But the message of Christ is still good news, Don't throw away the message because the messengers are sometimes...often?... stupid.
Well, my friend, I'm at a bit of a loss...how does one substantiate belief in spiritual things? If I quote the Bible you guys pour scorn on it, though it is as historical a document as any other ancient text, as far as its narratives are concerned. If I quote josephus or tacitus, someone else says Christians have changed their records!! Its "heads you lose, tails I win", isn't it? ;-)
To repeat, though, I think following Christ is realistic, because Christianity accepts that human beings tend to sin moe than tend to be good...as reading through this discussion on religion will clearly show!! What venom, what sarcasm and what one-up-manship we all practise on each other, don't we? Sorry, I cannot buy the "Homo sapiens-are-divine" doctrine. Homo sapiens stink. Christians stink, as you people have been pointing out all along, and I agree. I stink. ;-)
I find it positive because after accepting that, it tells us how we can change. It tells us how God still loves us, though we choose to go our own way, hating and harming others, all of us, of all religions. It tells me that God in Christ paid the price for my sins, and can now give me a new life, slate wiped clean. It tells me I should henceforth follow God's way, not my own, and I try, though like I said, i can hardly boast about my success!! But I try. If I stop trying and give in to my old kick-the-other-fellow nature, then there is a definite break in my relationship with God, and I know forgiveness and peace only when I have broken down and said Sorry...to God and to the fellow I kicked.
If that isn't good news, what is? ;-). And you blame me for wanting to tell others about this wonderful, loving Saviour and free gift of new life?
True, many Christians have made many mistakes in the way they have done it...didn't I tell you Christians stink?? :-)
But the message of Christ is still good news, Don't throw away the message because the messengers are sometimes...often?... stupid.