07-28-2006, 10:34 AM
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The URL has been updated with the following article:
Vyasa-Dhritarashtra Samvada by BN Achar, Annals of BORI, LXXXIV, (2003), pp 13-22). This establishes 1) the concordance between Atharvaveda Paris'is.t.a and the Mahabharata in relation to the accounts related to comets and 2) internal consistency of astronomical observations recorded in Udyogaparvan and Bhishmaparvan.
A question has been raised about the consistency between the tradition of the start of the Kaliyuga in 3102 BCE and the date of the war -- 3067 BCE. There is no contradiction between the dates as clarified by BN Achar:
"Nowhere does Sri Vedavyasa say that the war happenned in Dwapara yuga. All that is said is "antare caiva sampra_pte kali dwaparayoH", during the interval between Kali and Dwapara. If he meant the fag end of Dwapara, he could have easily said "dwapara_nte" and there is no necessity of mentioning both kali and dwapara at the same time. The interval extends to 200 years on the dwapara side and 100 years on the kali side. So, even if the kali began in 3102 BCE, 3067 BCE would be within the interval and does not contradict Sri Vedavyasa. There is evidence that kali had already started when the war took place. Bhagavan Krishna's remarks to Sri Balarama after the gadayuddha, when Bhima hits Duryodhana below the navel, that this is the effect of Kali attest to that. Yudhisthira's declaring the death of Ashwatthama (the elephant) implying the death of Drona's son is another indication. Fixing the date on the basis of eclipse pair alone is fraught with difficulties, I have discussed these at length in my paper presented at Bangalore.In my paper, thr only planetary positions that have been used are (i) shani at Rohini, (ii) angaraka retrograde before jyeshtha and (iii) lunar eclipse in the month of Kartika. These alone limit the dates to 3067 BCE and 2183 BCE. In both of these years there is a solar eclipse at jyeshtha following the lunar eclipse. I have not specified the location, but only the occurrence of the lunar eclipse. There is an inherent uncertainty in the location, that cannot be made
more precise."
For accessing the paper presented at Bangalore, link is at:
http://tinyurl.com/k2hhd
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The URL has been updated with the following article:
Vyasa-Dhritarashtra Samvada by BN Achar, Annals of BORI, LXXXIV, (2003), pp 13-22). This establishes 1) the concordance between Atharvaveda Paris'is.t.a and the Mahabharata in relation to the accounts related to comets and 2) internal consistency of astronomical observations recorded in Udyogaparvan and Bhishmaparvan.
A question has been raised about the consistency between the tradition of the start of the Kaliyuga in 3102 BCE and the date of the war -- 3067 BCE. There is no contradiction between the dates as clarified by BN Achar:
"Nowhere does Sri Vedavyasa say that the war happenned in Dwapara yuga. All that is said is "antare caiva sampra_pte kali dwaparayoH", during the interval between Kali and Dwapara. If he meant the fag end of Dwapara, he could have easily said "dwapara_nte" and there is no necessity of mentioning both kali and dwapara at the same time. The interval extends to 200 years on the dwapara side and 100 years on the kali side. So, even if the kali began in 3102 BCE, 3067 BCE would be within the interval and does not contradict Sri Vedavyasa. There is evidence that kali had already started when the war took place. Bhagavan Krishna's remarks to Sri Balarama after the gadayuddha, when Bhima hits Duryodhana below the navel, that this is the effect of Kali attest to that. Yudhisthira's declaring the death of Ashwatthama (the elephant) implying the death of Drona's son is another indication. Fixing the date on the basis of eclipse pair alone is fraught with difficulties, I have discussed these at length in my paper presented at Bangalore.In my paper, thr only planetary positions that have been used are (i) shani at Rohini, (ii) angaraka retrograde before jyeshtha and (iii) lunar eclipse in the month of Kartika. These alone limit the dates to 3067 BCE and 2183 BCE. In both of these years there is a solar eclipse at jyeshtha following the lunar eclipse. I have not specified the location, but only the occurrence of the lunar eclipse. There is an inherent uncertainty in the location, that cannot be made
more precise."
For accessing the paper presented at Bangalore, link is at:
http://tinyurl.com/k2hhd
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