08-11-2006, 02:25 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->You are right, Ramakrishna and Vivekananda practiced and taught Snatan Dharm not popular Hinduism.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know the difference. I think any true Sanatani or Hindu will tell you the same.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If there is One God , then He is the God of all i.e Universal God and The religion to realize Him require Universal thought, hense Univeralism.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In Sanatana Dharma no thought can lead you to god whether it that thought is radical universalism or radical sectarianism. God can only be known by intense sadhana of bhakti, Yoga, Jnana and most imporant Karma.
Those who derive pleasure by intellectualizing God beyond the necessary comprehensive philosophy are far from reaching God. Consult Shastras!!
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->We dont own God, even though He is ours.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Very True.
But unfortunately the <b>mleccha religions</b> thinks that they <b>own</b> God.
And those who think that these mleccha ideologies are on par with Sanatana Dharma have neither understood mleccha vada nor have understood Sanatana Dharma. They are just speaking their mind.
They are also arrogants who think one any nonsense talk about God and universe will lead to God.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I belive Ramakrishna gave the explanation of Islamic worship of Allah by giving example of beautifull Palace and He talked about Christ not of churchianity.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The author of the article gives very good account of what ramakrishna did.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Any one contradicting and undermining the Universal "one who see Self in all , and all in Self" cannot be a Snatani and the follower of Vedas. Snatan Dharm consnsits of principles not of people or personalities , hense drawing boundary lines is like practising semetic exclusiveness. Who so ever the author, canot be a wellwisher of Snatani Hunoods. To "Know" God has to be Universal ,anything less is no Divine or worth knowing.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again a fanatic and radicalization of God. In the level of mental intellectualization this "one who see Self in all , and all in Self" will lead to such universalist ideas.
The real person who "sees Self in all , and all in Self" will actually try to establish self in all his work. Humans are said to be ignorant of their self and have superimposed mental projection of reality over reality. Those who know self try to break this cloud of ignorance in others and society. This also involves breaking those false intellectual as well as asurik dogmas like mleccha vada.
You haven't even paid attention to Gita ~ that text that makes clear (more than any other) how a "knower of self" must act.
I don't know the difference. I think any true Sanatani or Hindu will tell you the same.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If there is One God , then He is the God of all i.e Universal God and The religion to realize Him require Universal thought, hense Univeralism.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In Sanatana Dharma no thought can lead you to god whether it that thought is radical universalism or radical sectarianism. God can only be known by intense sadhana of bhakti, Yoga, Jnana and most imporant Karma.
Those who derive pleasure by intellectualizing God beyond the necessary comprehensive philosophy are far from reaching God. Consult Shastras!!
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->We dont own God, even though He is ours.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Very True.
But unfortunately the <b>mleccha religions</b> thinks that they <b>own</b> God.
And those who think that these mleccha ideologies are on par with Sanatana Dharma have neither understood mleccha vada nor have understood Sanatana Dharma. They are just speaking their mind.
They are also arrogants who think one any nonsense talk about God and universe will lead to God.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I belive Ramakrishna gave the explanation of Islamic worship of Allah by giving example of beautifull Palace and He talked about Christ not of churchianity.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The author of the article gives very good account of what ramakrishna did.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Any one contradicting and undermining the Universal "one who see Self in all , and all in Self" cannot be a Snatani and the follower of Vedas. Snatan Dharm consnsits of principles not of people or personalities , hense drawing boundary lines is like practising semetic exclusiveness. Who so ever the author, canot be a wellwisher of Snatani Hunoods. To "Know" God has to be Universal ,anything less is no Divine or worth knowing.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again a fanatic and radicalization of God. In the level of mental intellectualization this "one who see Self in all , and all in Self" will lead to such universalist ideas.
The real person who "sees Self in all , and all in Self" will actually try to establish self in all his work. Humans are said to be ignorant of their self and have superimposed mental projection of reality over reality. Those who know self try to break this cloud of ignorance in others and society. This also involves breaking those false intellectual as well as asurik dogmas like mleccha vada.
You haven't even paid attention to Gita ~ that text that makes clear (more than any other) how a "knower of self" must act.