08-26-2006, 08:51 PM
The issue is true historical details not some propoganda.
Its true that these facts are well known but when we see Digvijay post a different scenario is presented.
Quote Digvijay
It is said that somebody told Akbar that Pratap wanted to accept Akbar as the king. Akbar was very happy to hear this. One of Akbar's general was Prthviraj Rathore who was a very good poet. He told Akbar this is a lie (incidentally Prithviraj's mother and ....
Gulleria Saheb there is no need to make it one vs other the point is relative contribution by different groups and JATS contribution was significant but not highlighted.That's all.
Now I am very happy that you have atleast known JATS in Sindh as early as senenth century otherwise in your last discussion your familirity with jats started from akbar times.Here I am thankful to posts of Acharya from Sindh story by K R Malkani on this form.
Now I would like to know Do you know the entire story.It is there online in Chach nama and you can refer the Sud history and hussaini dutt mohyal history for the reference.
The Sindh was ruled by jat sahi popular rulers and Dahir was just a coward characterless usurper recented by general public.He seduced the queen or vice versa but in the end the king fell ill in mysterious circumstances and suhandi her queen helped kill relatives of king in one of worst cases treachery and cold blooded crimes in history.After killing all relatives and king dahir was still afraid but persuaded by queen to take responsibility or wear bangles.Now the jat population was very hostile to this shoddy affair and revolted against king.It was a popular revolt by masses and dahir hide in fort closing its doors, blood flowed on streets but queen adviced to throw all money of treasurey to bribe people and control jats.In the end jats common people uprising was foiled..Similarly neighbouring lohana rulers also attacked but were defeated.To control these warrior ruling races Dahir won other groups and put ban on jats and lohanas to carry weapons and other derogatory conditions that even foreigners hesistate to put on subjects out of their fear of their attack.
Hearing relative of deposed ruler,king of chittor attacked and asked him to have a one to one fight .Dahir again feared and asked for mercy but all of sudden taking sword treacherously killed this king.
But it was not enough again his son married her own sister to save his kindom a taboo and a great crime in hindu religion .People just hated this and disliked them and jats meds(mair rajputs of today) and lohana (Lubhana) were no exception .In these circumstances no one can expect jats or med rajput to support such debased rulers.We have seen similar example in case Sahi badat ruler of gilgit and Netaji fighting british with japani forces.
Well again we find no mention of Rajput resistance or even mention of this word.The link gives the antiquity of Jats to Indus valley that will come out certainly after some time.
Ps Gulleria too is one of jat gotr widespread in rajasthan.
This digression was in responce to slanderous false aspersion and I hope members will appreciate it.
Its true that these facts are well known but when we see Digvijay post a different scenario is presented.
Quote Digvijay
It is said that somebody told Akbar that Pratap wanted to accept Akbar as the king. Akbar was very happy to hear this. One of Akbar's general was Prthviraj Rathore who was a very good poet. He told Akbar this is a lie (incidentally Prithviraj's mother and ....
Gulleria Saheb there is no need to make it one vs other the point is relative contribution by different groups and JATS contribution was significant but not highlighted.That's all.
Now I am very happy that you have atleast known JATS in Sindh as early as senenth century otherwise in your last discussion your familirity with jats started from akbar times.Here I am thankful to posts of Acharya from Sindh story by K R Malkani on this form.
Now I would like to know Do you know the entire story.It is there online in Chach nama and you can refer the Sud history and hussaini dutt mohyal history for the reference.
The Sindh was ruled by jat sahi popular rulers and Dahir was just a coward characterless usurper recented by general public.He seduced the queen or vice versa but in the end the king fell ill in mysterious circumstances and suhandi her queen helped kill relatives of king in one of worst cases treachery and cold blooded crimes in history.After killing all relatives and king dahir was still afraid but persuaded by queen to take responsibility or wear bangles.Now the jat population was very hostile to this shoddy affair and revolted against king.It was a popular revolt by masses and dahir hide in fort closing its doors, blood flowed on streets but queen adviced to throw all money of treasurey to bribe people and control jats.In the end jats common people uprising was foiled..Similarly neighbouring lohana rulers also attacked but were defeated.To control these warrior ruling races Dahir won other groups and put ban on jats and lohanas to carry weapons and other derogatory conditions that even foreigners hesistate to put on subjects out of their fear of their attack.
Hearing relative of deposed ruler,king of chittor attacked and asked him to have a one to one fight .Dahir again feared and asked for mercy but all of sudden taking sword treacherously killed this king.
But it was not enough again his son married her own sister to save his kindom a taboo and a great crime in hindu religion .People just hated this and disliked them and jats meds(mair rajputs of today) and lohana (Lubhana) were no exception .In these circumstances no one can expect jats or med rajput to support such debased rulers.We have seen similar example in case Sahi badat ruler of gilgit and Netaji fighting british with japani forces.
Well again we find no mention of Rajput resistance or even mention of this word.The link gives the antiquity of Jats to Indus valley that will come out certainly after some time.
Ps Gulleria too is one of jat gotr widespread in rajasthan.
This digression was in responce to slanderous false aspersion and I hope members will appreciate it.