Post 188 (below follows a criticism not of what Naresh wrote but of something written by the person quoted in his post)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist [wrote]
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Allahâs faithful aim to drag the rest of humanity into the deadly Islamic quagmire. Islam may have been an improvement to the life of the savages that roamed the Arabian desserts some 1400 years ago.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->This is completely and utterly wrong. There were no savages who roamed the Arabian deserts in that period or before, except the intolerant heretic Christians who had been kicked out by the equally intolerant Christians of Rome and Byzantine. These heretical Christian sects, like the Nestorians and many another, were welcomed by the pluralist Arabians who were then persecuted and a number forcibly converted into the Christian terror.
Arabian heathens were not savages in the least. Islam was never an improvement to their lives. It brutally silenced their true culture and spirit.
Yes, Arabia was a desert. But the educated (non-Christian) Romans and Greeks appropriately called it Arabia Felix ("Happy Arabia", which had been its Roman name for centuries) because all the persecuted in the world knew they could run off there and be accepted and treated humanely by the pagan Arabians.
Or maybe I don't know what the word savage means.
The pagan Arabian men and women were known to adopt all the orphan children in their whereabouts - they never let a single child be parentless. (Also confirmed by the Iranian Ali Sina of faithfreedom.)
And Arabian women were treated very well and had equal inheritance laws. The dress code of hijab and the head-gear for Arabian men was a natural, non-religious, development in this dusty land where sand would be blown into one's hair all the time; so when travelling outside, men and women wore these things and eventually the hijab became more colourful and items of fashion at the time. It was not a compulsory item of dress, though.
Then came the horror that was Islam. With a ruthlessness matched only by the Christoterror, it killed the Arabian culture and religion along with a great many of the poor, kindly Arabians themselves.
When Mohammed (<i>Islamic</i> PEACE be upon him) lusted after his adopted son's wife, his son gave her up to the 'prophet'. But since tongues were understandably wagging about Mohammed (appease him)'s incestuous impropriety in taking his daughter as a wife, Mohammed (peaceable be he) cancelled his relationship with his adopted son and issued the ('divinely channeled') decree that henceforth adoption should be banned in Islam.
That is how the noble pagan Arabian practise of adoption flew out of the window. It is one of the many vast 'improvements' that Islam brought to Arabia. Yes, I see it now. I was mistaken. The Arabian heathens were savages indeed. The kafirs! And the peaceful religion of Islam is civilisation. Praise be.
When we (including Amil Imani who wrote the bit in the quote-block above) call the ancient Arabians savages, we ought to know whom it is that we are referring to thus and whether they deserve it. It also depends on each individual's opinion as to the meaning of the word 'savage' of course.
Finally, we can't all be as civilised as the Islamoterrorists or as morally superior as the Christofascists. Perhaps savages is a compliment after all.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist [wrote]
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Allahâs faithful aim to drag the rest of humanity into the deadly Islamic quagmire. Islam may have been an improvement to the life of the savages that roamed the Arabian desserts some 1400 years ago.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->This is completely and utterly wrong. There were no savages who roamed the Arabian deserts in that period or before, except the intolerant heretic Christians who had been kicked out by the equally intolerant Christians of Rome and Byzantine. These heretical Christian sects, like the Nestorians and many another, were welcomed by the pluralist Arabians who were then persecuted and a number forcibly converted into the Christian terror.
Arabian heathens were not savages in the least. Islam was never an improvement to their lives. It brutally silenced their true culture and spirit.
Yes, Arabia was a desert. But the educated (non-Christian) Romans and Greeks appropriately called it Arabia Felix ("Happy Arabia", which had been its Roman name for centuries) because all the persecuted in the world knew they could run off there and be accepted and treated humanely by the pagan Arabians.
Or maybe I don't know what the word savage means.
The pagan Arabian men and women were known to adopt all the orphan children in their whereabouts - they never let a single child be parentless. (Also confirmed by the Iranian Ali Sina of faithfreedom.)
And Arabian women were treated very well and had equal inheritance laws. The dress code of hijab and the head-gear for Arabian men was a natural, non-religious, development in this dusty land where sand would be blown into one's hair all the time; so when travelling outside, men and women wore these things and eventually the hijab became more colourful and items of fashion at the time. It was not a compulsory item of dress, though.
Then came the horror that was Islam. With a ruthlessness matched only by the Christoterror, it killed the Arabian culture and religion along with a great many of the poor, kindly Arabians themselves.
When Mohammed (<i>Islamic</i> PEACE be upon him) lusted after his adopted son's wife, his son gave her up to the 'prophet'. But since tongues were understandably wagging about Mohammed (appease him)'s incestuous impropriety in taking his daughter as a wife, Mohammed (peaceable be he) cancelled his relationship with his adopted son and issued the ('divinely channeled') decree that henceforth adoption should be banned in Islam.
That is how the noble pagan Arabian practise of adoption flew out of the window. It is one of the many vast 'improvements' that Islam brought to Arabia. Yes, I see it now. I was mistaken. The Arabian heathens were savages indeed. The kafirs! And the peaceful religion of Islam is civilisation. Praise be.
When we (including Amil Imani who wrote the bit in the quote-block above) call the ancient Arabians savages, we ought to know whom it is that we are referring to thus and whether they deserve it. It also depends on each individual's opinion as to the meaning of the word 'savage' of course.
Finally, we can't all be as civilised as the Islamoterrorists or as morally superior as the Christofascists. Perhaps savages is a compliment after all.