Intrafaith Dialog - Hinduism, Buddhism And Jainism

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I would rather be cautious and sceptical about using the writings of whom you call "Sikh writers of today", as well as all the host of sikh forums run by westerners. These "Sikh Writers" reject even that Guru Nanak himself was a Hindu! These so called scholars insist that the name of fifth Guru is not Sri Arjun Dev, but Arjan Dev! These scholars go lengths inventing the stories of Sikh persecution by Hindus and so on. These scholars are mass-produced by macaulian p-secularists, and funded by the likes.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok instead of all this, let us turn to Guru Gobind's own words:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Agm sUrbIry auTih isMG joDw ]
pkV qurk gn kau krY vY inroDw ]
byAMq blvwn sUrbIr isMG joDy auTngy [
auh qurkW dy gn (smUh) hoky aunWH nUM blhIn kr dyxgy [
Ample brave Singh warriors will rise.
They will face the Turks and and make them defenceless.


skl jgq mo Kwlsw pMQ gwjY ]
jgY Drm ihMduk qurkn duMd BwjY ]
swry jgq ivc Kwlsw pMQ dw bol bwlw hovygw [
ihMdU Drm PYl jwvygw qy qurkW nUM BwjV pY jwvygI [
Throughout the world the Khalsa Panth will be prominent
The Hindu Dharma will prevail, and the Turks will be in flight.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Bhagavatii Chhanda 5
duhuun pantha men kapata vi`daye calaanii |
bhur.a tiisaraa pantha kiije pradhaanii ||
Both Panthas are getting contaminated.
Come and elevate a third Pantha.

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Both are from Ugradanti (a bani in praise of the Devi) used only by the Nihang's and Namdharis in their liturgy.

It is in this text that the famous quote that Hindus show is found (which I quoted here) but it is in the same text that Guru Gobind says that "Both Panthas are getting contaminated" and that a third panth needs to be elevated.

Now what are the two panths except Hinduism and Islam?

The third panth is of course the Khalsa Panth.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Someone who has spoken thus, can not be attributed to Sikh separatists. Above is video recorded, photographed and so on, and published by RSS recently, to silence the so called "Sikh scholars". Since Master Tara Singh is a grand name to be reckoned with, the "sikh scholars" invent stories and statements attributed to him. We should be careful about those manufactured statements and stories.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He said many things over his lifetime, the statement I quoted was from the times newspaper and the site I quoted is not a Khalistani one, it has articles exposing Bhindrenwale also.

Here is a statement from him:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->THE PUNJAB NOT A MUSLIM PROVINCE

“I place my claim”, wrote Master Tara Singh upon the fact that the Punjab is not a Muslim Province.  “I do not even admit that the Muslims are in a majority in the population.  Punjab History in the Sikh History.  It is the birth-place of the Sikh religion and the Sikh Gurus; most if not all the Punjab Martyrs are the Sikh martyrs.  The Sikhs are the only people who take pride in Punjabi culture and language.  Muslim poet will sing of Mecca and Madina; a Hindu poet will sing of Ganga and Banaras; but the Sikh poet will sing of the Ravi and Chanab”.

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Where were the Vedas composed?

And what land were the composers praising when they praised Saraswati river?

Here is some more info:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The present Jathedar of the Budha Dal, Akali Nihang Baba Santa Singh commented:

‘They [the S.G.P.C.] are enemies of the true Khalsa form [Budha Dal Akali Nihangs]. Because only after making pledges did they get the Act Bill passed. They [S.G.P.C.] said: “We accept the Gurdwara Act.” [The British replied], “We [British] will pass the Act Bill but the Priests [Udasi Mahants] have made pledges.” ‘’What pledges?” [asked the S.G.P.C.]. [The British replied], “That they would not raise a voice for Khalsa Raj.” They [the S.G.P.C.] said: “This pledge we will also make.” After making this pledge they got the Act Bill passed. Under the jurisdiction of it [the Act] all are S.G.P.C. Gurdwaras. They [the S.G.P.C.] are enslaved by it.’
Akali Nihang Baba Santa Singh, transcript of interview on Vaisakhi 1999

In the ensuing conflict between the British-backed S.G.P.C. and the Budha Dal, the companion Jathedar of the Akal Takht, Akali Nihang Baba Sahib Singh’s arm was broken by S.G.P.C. thugs within the Akal Takht itself. The sacred scripture, Dasam Guru Durbar that was traditionally kept at the Akali Takht was thrown on ground by Teja Singh Samundri and Master Tara Singh. In addition, they had the British imprison the Budha Dal Nihangs. More of what transpired will be revealed in articles in the future on www.sarbloh.info.

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Only the Nihang's still give equal importance to both SGGS and Dasam Granth.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->About Swami Dayanand having called Sri Guru Nanak a fool!! I have not heard anything like that ever. And although I have read Swamiji's works, I am open to learn and change my opinions. Here is an online resource of Satyarth Prakash. Link will directly take to the 11th chapter of the book, which contains his criticism of all faiths practiced in India. If you read the whole content, you would notice that although he has not spared anyone including Adi Shankar, Ramanujacharya, Yamunacharya etc, yet he is softer on Jains and Sikhs. In the section where he criticises Jains and Bauddhas, he limits it to Murti-Puja and that too to two particular schools. http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/chaptereleven.htm#6

I did not find any mention of Guru Nanak in his writing, but then part of the book seems to be down on that site. Can you please pass on some resource which can be considered auhentic, where Swami Dayanand is shown to have called Guru Nanak a fool!! (I am sure he may have called something but certain not a fool)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't have the exact reference but I will try and find it, but anyway here is something from Goel:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I do not remember at this distance in time my reactions to the learned discussions which the Satyartha Prakasa carries on many subjects. But I do remember very vividly the painful shock I received as I read its remarks about Kabir and Nanak. These were two of the most hallowed names I had cherished since my first awakening to a religious consciousness. I concluded that Swami Dayananda had been unnecessarily unkind to these great saints, and that his way of thinking was wrong. That was the end of Arya Samaj for me at that time. It was years later when I read Sri Aurobindo's Bankim, Tilak, Dayananda that I bowed, in repentance and renewed reverence, before that fearless lion of a man who tried his best to rescue and revive the Vedic vision among the Hindus. A true understanding and appreciation of the crucial cultural role which the Arya Samaj played at a critical juncture in our national life dawned on me simultaneously.

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