10-30-2006, 07:29 AM
Maruti,
Bodhi and Rajesh have answered your posts very kindly and left it at that. Sorry that I can not do the same. I am argumentative by nature and so far no one has been able to correct me, least of all myself.
Before I can begin to accept your statements on how ChristoIslamism is the same as Buddhism and Jainism, I will need you to research and document a listing of all the atrocities committed by Buddhists (<i>and</i> based on their religious beliefs) against non-Buddhists. And, the documentation must be <i>throughout</i> history and throughout the regions where Buddhism has spread historically. I must stress again, the research must prove beyond a doubt that Buddhist beliefs incited any atrocities and violence mentioned. Same for Jainism please.
Also provide statements of greatly respected Buddhists and Jains - like those well-known ones of highly influential Christian theologians and saints - that spurred followers of these faiths to acts of violence against others. For example, the beloved saint Thomas Aquinas' cherished articulation of Christo doctrine:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Unbelievers deserve not only to be separated from the Church, but also... to be exterminated from the World by death."
- Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, 1271
The Early Church Councils: murder, heresy and shaping future beliefs<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
( http://freetruth.50webs.org/A2a.htm )
Then, draw direct lines of consequence from such intolerant words to the resulting violent actions (this is very clearly proven in the ChristoIslamic cases).
The following do not count, so you can ignore them in your research:
- Communist rewriting of Buddhist (or Jain) history. Including communist propaganda against Tibetan Buddhism which accuses the Tibetan Buddhists of abuse, fraud, oppression and other crimes.
- Christo propaganda against Korean Buddhists or other Buddhists and Jains.
- Western p-sec writings (which are also Christo) castigating Buddhism or Jainism for whatever. Christos are commanded to spread ze holy word of gawd, hence they will lie and I can not trust their allegations.
This includes modern western Christo ('secular') lies about blaming Buddhism for the existence and oppression of Burakumin (sp?) of Japan. The introduction of Buddhism might have not changed the then-existing Japanese society and the status quo, but it does not teach people to create such a class.
- No pinpointing Buddhism as the cause of war, battles and sparring of Samurais and their masters in Japan's history. These civil strifes were going on before their adoption of Buddhism, and Buddhism changed but little of this. (Shintoism is not to blame for these either - they were political disputes.)
Since you believe that the fascism which is ChristoIslamism is no different from Buddhism and Jainism, you will doubtless have no trouble whatsoever to track down heinous crimes Buddhists and Jains have committed throughout history in their regions of proliferation/existence. Especially since these religions are several centuries (according to western Christo dating) if not millennia older than Christianity and Islam. Imagine, you'll have much more evidence for the 'inhumanity and intolerance' of Buddism and Jainism than even ChristoIslamism can boast of.
For examples of what I am expecting see the link to a site on Christianity in my sig. (The links on Islam in my sig are insufficient as examples. Instead look to Bharatvarsha, the resident expert on Islamic terrorism throughout history, who has written numerous posts exposing the loving and peaceful nature of that <i>other</i> gift to the world, Islam.)
I have no qualms about admitting I am completely wrong, but first require proof to do so. So I look forward to you enlightening me on the terrorist nature of Jaina and Buddhist religion. Until then, I'm afraid, I will continue in my respect for both these religions and in disputing their being lumped together with the terrorist religion(s) of ChristoIslamism.
You may decide not to put so much effort in, of course, and can disregard my request altogether. But unless you back up your words with indisputable data, and yet continue to argue in the same line, I might have to start questioning <i>your</i> motives.
Either way, I can not accept your mere say-so and will have to stop responding on this matter until well-supported arguments from your end are forthcoming.
Bodhi and Rajesh have answered your posts very kindly and left it at that. Sorry that I can not do the same. I am argumentative by nature and so far no one has been able to correct me, least of all myself.
Before I can begin to accept your statements on how ChristoIslamism is the same as Buddhism and Jainism, I will need you to research and document a listing of all the atrocities committed by Buddhists (<i>and</i> based on their religious beliefs) against non-Buddhists. And, the documentation must be <i>throughout</i> history and throughout the regions where Buddhism has spread historically. I must stress again, the research must prove beyond a doubt that Buddhist beliefs incited any atrocities and violence mentioned. Same for Jainism please.
Also provide statements of greatly respected Buddhists and Jains - like those well-known ones of highly influential Christian theologians and saints - that spurred followers of these faiths to acts of violence against others. For example, the beloved saint Thomas Aquinas' cherished articulation of Christo doctrine:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Unbelievers deserve not only to be separated from the Church, but also... to be exterminated from the World by death."
- Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, 1271
The Early Church Councils: murder, heresy and shaping future beliefs<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
( http://freetruth.50webs.org/A2a.htm )
Then, draw direct lines of consequence from such intolerant words to the resulting violent actions (this is very clearly proven in the ChristoIslamic cases).
The following do not count, so you can ignore them in your research:
- Communist rewriting of Buddhist (or Jain) history. Including communist propaganda against Tibetan Buddhism which accuses the Tibetan Buddhists of abuse, fraud, oppression and other crimes.
- Christo propaganda against Korean Buddhists or other Buddhists and Jains.
- Western p-sec writings (which are also Christo) castigating Buddhism or Jainism for whatever. Christos are commanded to spread ze holy word of gawd, hence they will lie and I can not trust their allegations.
This includes modern western Christo ('secular') lies about blaming Buddhism for the existence and oppression of Burakumin (sp?) of Japan. The introduction of Buddhism might have not changed the then-existing Japanese society and the status quo, but it does not teach people to create such a class.
- No pinpointing Buddhism as the cause of war, battles and sparring of Samurais and their masters in Japan's history. These civil strifes were going on before their adoption of Buddhism, and Buddhism changed but little of this. (Shintoism is not to blame for these either - they were political disputes.)
Since you believe that the fascism which is ChristoIslamism is no different from Buddhism and Jainism, you will doubtless have no trouble whatsoever to track down heinous crimes Buddhists and Jains have committed throughout history in their regions of proliferation/existence. Especially since these religions are several centuries (according to western Christo dating) if not millennia older than Christianity and Islam. Imagine, you'll have much more evidence for the 'inhumanity and intolerance' of Buddism and Jainism than even ChristoIslamism can boast of.
For examples of what I am expecting see the link to a site on Christianity in my sig. (The links on Islam in my sig are insufficient as examples. Instead look to Bharatvarsha, the resident expert on Islamic terrorism throughout history, who has written numerous posts exposing the loving and peaceful nature of that <i>other</i> gift to the world, Islam.)
I have no qualms about admitting I am completely wrong, but first require proof to do so. So I look forward to you enlightening me on the terrorist nature of Jaina and Buddhist religion. Until then, I'm afraid, I will continue in my respect for both these religions and in disputing their being lumped together with the terrorist religion(s) of ChristoIslamism.
You may decide not to put so much effort in, of course, and can disregard my request altogether. But unless you back up your words with indisputable data, and yet continue to argue in the same line, I might have to start questioning <i>your</i> motives.
Either way, I can not accept your mere say-so and will have to stop responding on this matter until well-supported arguments from your end are forthcoming.