10-31-2006, 01:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Oct 30 2006, 12:48 PM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Oct 30 2006, 12:48 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Bodhi does that really matter, when we are deciding something like this we need to go by what the majority in the Sikh community thinks and they indeed think they are a separate community.
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Bharat, I totally agree with you about this one. I am not saying Hindus should go about announcing "Sikhs are Hindus" - which is just futile - afterall who are we to say it if someone would not accept that? You have misunderstood me. I am not advocating that artificial inclusiveness.
I am just saying that Jains, Bauddha, Sikhs and (rest of the) Hindus, can still consider themselves together, share the same vibes rooted in common spiritual values, common philosophical tenets, common festivals, common cultural codes of conducts, common heritage of saints we respect, common enimies we are fighting with, common stratagic interests ....and so on...
That samarasata is what is needed - and which would provide Sikhs/Jains/Bauddhas a sense of unity and sense of common-ness, and eliviate their having to again and again assert their difference from (the rest of) Hinduism.
And how will that come, by NOT reciprocating their bitterness born out of some artificial sense of insecurity resulting in identity assertiveness on their part.
I would think we need to encourage interfaith dialog, and respond to them with - as explained by Patanjali and Gautama Buddha - Maitri-Karuna-Mudita-Udasin-Upekhyaya bhav, former the better. (Friendship-Mercy-Compassion-Indifference-Ignoring)
This has not been tried. While Nehruvian-Gandhian congressees have always appeased Indian muslims and christians, they have never cared for this inter-faith dialog. VHP/RSS have tried to do that though, with some success.
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Bharat, I totally agree with you about this one. I am not saying Hindus should go about announcing "Sikhs are Hindus" - which is just futile - afterall who are we to say it if someone would not accept that? You have misunderstood me. I am not advocating that artificial inclusiveness.
I am just saying that Jains, Bauddha, Sikhs and (rest of the) Hindus, can still consider themselves together, share the same vibes rooted in common spiritual values, common philosophical tenets, common festivals, common cultural codes of conducts, common heritage of saints we respect, common enimies we are fighting with, common stratagic interests ....and so on...
That samarasata is what is needed - and which would provide Sikhs/Jains/Bauddhas a sense of unity and sense of common-ness, and eliviate their having to again and again assert their difference from (the rest of) Hinduism.
And how will that come, by NOT reciprocating their bitterness born out of some artificial sense of insecurity resulting in identity assertiveness on their part.
I would think we need to encourage interfaith dialog, and respond to them with - as explained by Patanjali and Gautama Buddha - Maitri-Karuna-Mudita-Udasin-Upekhyaya bhav, former the better. (Friendship-Mercy-Compassion-Indifference-Ignoring)
This has not been tried. While Nehruvian-Gandhian congressees have always appeased Indian muslims and christians, they have never cared for this inter-faith dialog. VHP/RSS have tried to do that though, with some success.