11-07-2006, 12:42 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-mitradena+Nov 4 2006, 11:04 PM-->QUOTE(mitradena @ Nov 4 2006, 11:04 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sandeep,
Is this an authentic translation of the Siri Guru Granth Sahib? :-
http://www.sikhnet.com/sggs/translation/
Also is there a chapter called "Praan Sangli" in there or is it a separate book?
One white guy I know was quoting from the "Praan Sangli" by Guru Nanak.
Thanks.
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This is somewhat Authentic Sri Guru Granth Sahib. This book was compiled by the Fifth Guru, Guru Arjan Dev ji at Golden Temple during the reign of Jahangir.
What Guru Arjan Dev did was this
1. He got Guru Nanak's Bani from the descendants of the second Guru Guru Angad dev ji as well as the bani of second Guru living at Khadoor sahib.
2. He got the bani of the Third Guru from the descendants of third guru living at Goindwal Sahib.
3. He had the bani of his own father as well as his.
4. He told his Sikhs to go all over India to collect the works of good indian bhakti movement saints. So he included Bhagat Kabir, Bhagat Namdev, Baba Sheikh Farid Shakarganj, Sheikh Farid Sani, Bhagat Ravidass and numerous other Bhagats., His sikhs would bring him the works of these saints and he (guru) along with Bhai Gurdas (his scholar disciple) would argue back and forth and include/reject these compositions.
5. One of his Sikhs brought him Pran Sangli from Sri Lanka which was rejected by Guru Arjan dev ji.
6. After Granth (it was called Adi Granth at that time) was comleted he put the Granth in the middle of Golden Temple telling people to read and understand its sayings.
7. Guru Arjan dev was martyred at Lahore on the orders of Shaikh Ahmad Sarhindi through Jahangir.
8. The rest of the Gurus (hargobind, har rai, har kishen, tegh bahadur, gobind singh) were too busy fighting the Mughals and only Guru Tegh Bahadur and Guru Gobind singh included little bit of their bani in Adi Granth (much less than other Gurus). Though Guru Gobind Singh compiled a separate book of his own writings that is now called "Dasam Granth" i.e. "Book of the Tenth Guru".
9. After Guru Gobind Singh's father was martyred at Delhi, his sons (4) were martyred at Sarhind and Chamkaur, his mother was martyred at sarhind. Guru Gobind Singh went down to Maharashtra (obviously to preach Sikhism and get support of Marathas), where one day when he was sleeping in his tent, two Pathans sneaked in and wounded him in an ensuing fight, both pathans was killed. Guru Gobind Singh was used to daily exercise early morning (apart from hosrse riding, which was to shot thousands or so arrows at a target)., as he tried to fix his bow, the stiches on his stomach due to the wounds opened up and he collapsed, by the time surgeon came to him too much blood was lost and he realizing that his end was near., got his all Sikhs together told them that the "Adi Granth" was the next Guru for all eternity and his own book was not Guru but a guidance for battle (source of inspiration).
10. Since! during 1500s-1600s all books were hand written many people made SGGS which had many of the rejected writings by Guru Arjan. If you go to the first floor of the Golden Temple you will see the Original Book written by Guru Arjan Dev ji still preserved. The original three copies (which were made by Guru Arjan dev and Bhai Gurdas) are identical and are preserved at Khadoor Sahib and Goindwal Sahib. During the turbulent times (between martyrdom of Guru Arjan Dev and Martyrdom of Guru Gobind Singh, then Banda Bahadur and then the Mughals hunting Sikhs), many people made counterfit granth sahib. So! now majority of Sikhs agree that the Guru Granth Sahib is what you see in an average Gurudwara (it does not have pran sangli)
thanks
Sandeep
Is this an authentic translation of the Siri Guru Granth Sahib? :-
http://www.sikhnet.com/sggs/translation/
Also is there a chapter called "Praan Sangli" in there or is it a separate book?
One white guy I know was quoting from the "Praan Sangli" by Guru Nanak.
Thanks.
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This is somewhat Authentic Sri Guru Granth Sahib. This book was compiled by the Fifth Guru, Guru Arjan Dev ji at Golden Temple during the reign of Jahangir.
What Guru Arjan Dev did was this
1. He got Guru Nanak's Bani from the descendants of the second Guru Guru Angad dev ji as well as the bani of second Guru living at Khadoor sahib.
2. He got the bani of the Third Guru from the descendants of third guru living at Goindwal Sahib.
3. He had the bani of his own father as well as his.
4. He told his Sikhs to go all over India to collect the works of good indian bhakti movement saints. So he included Bhagat Kabir, Bhagat Namdev, Baba Sheikh Farid Shakarganj, Sheikh Farid Sani, Bhagat Ravidass and numerous other Bhagats., His sikhs would bring him the works of these saints and he (guru) along with Bhai Gurdas (his scholar disciple) would argue back and forth and include/reject these compositions.
5. One of his Sikhs brought him Pran Sangli from Sri Lanka which was rejected by Guru Arjan dev ji.
6. After Granth (it was called Adi Granth at that time) was comleted he put the Granth in the middle of Golden Temple telling people to read and understand its sayings.
7. Guru Arjan dev was martyred at Lahore on the orders of Shaikh Ahmad Sarhindi through Jahangir.
8. The rest of the Gurus (hargobind, har rai, har kishen, tegh bahadur, gobind singh) were too busy fighting the Mughals and only Guru Tegh Bahadur and Guru Gobind singh included little bit of their bani in Adi Granth (much less than other Gurus). Though Guru Gobind Singh compiled a separate book of his own writings that is now called "Dasam Granth" i.e. "Book of the Tenth Guru".
9. After Guru Gobind Singh's father was martyred at Delhi, his sons (4) were martyred at Sarhind and Chamkaur, his mother was martyred at sarhind. Guru Gobind Singh went down to Maharashtra (obviously to preach Sikhism and get support of Marathas), where one day when he was sleeping in his tent, two Pathans sneaked in and wounded him in an ensuing fight, both pathans was killed. Guru Gobind Singh was used to daily exercise early morning (apart from hosrse riding, which was to shot thousands or so arrows at a target)., as he tried to fix his bow, the stiches on his stomach due to the wounds opened up and he collapsed, by the time surgeon came to him too much blood was lost and he realizing that his end was near., got his all Sikhs together told them that the "Adi Granth" was the next Guru for all eternity and his own book was not Guru but a guidance for battle (source of inspiration).
10. Since! during 1500s-1600s all books were hand written many people made SGGS which had many of the rejected writings by Guru Arjan. If you go to the first floor of the Golden Temple you will see the Original Book written by Guru Arjan Dev ji still preserved. The original three copies (which were made by Guru Arjan dev and Bhai Gurdas) are identical and are preserved at Khadoor Sahib and Goindwal Sahib. During the turbulent times (between martyrdom of Guru Arjan Dev and Martyrdom of Guru Gobind Singh, then Banda Bahadur and then the Mughals hunting Sikhs), many people made counterfit granth sahib. So! now majority of Sikhs agree that the Guru Granth Sahib is what you see in an average Gurudwara (it does not have pran sangli)
thanks
Sandeep