11-08-2006, 04:56 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-sbajwa+Nov 4 2006, 01:23 AM-->QUOTE(sbajwa @ Nov 4 2006, 01:23 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-digvijay+Oct 5 2006, 10:21 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(digvijay @ Oct 5 2006, 10:21 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Oct 5 2006, 07:10 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 5 2006, 07:10 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Why was the First Son made a Sikh </b>
In May 2004 Manmohan Singh became India's Prime Minister. When .....
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Mudy,
It is not correct that Sikhs became renowned as a fighting force due to Brits. It is true that when Sikhism arose it was largely a peaceful religious sect. But when Gurus were killed and the persecution of Hindus and Sikhs became the norm at the hands of muslims the Gurus of Sikhs decided to make Sikhs into a fighting force. For this reason the ballads of bravery were sung at Akal Takth to inspire the followers of Sikh Panth. These ballads were of rajput warriors from Rajasthan and UP/MP.
http://hindurajput.blogspot.com/#Banda_Bhadur
-Digvijay
-Digvijay
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The number 5 is very imporant according to Guru Naank.
There is a Panchayat, there are five "pravaan", there are five elements of life (ether, fire, air, water, ??)
There is kaam, krodh, lobh, moh, hankaar and there is satt, santokh, daya, dharam, sabr.
Thus the first five human sikh gurus were saints (nanak, angad, amardas, ramdas and arjan dev)
The last five human sikh gurus were soldiers (hargobind, har rai, har kishen, tegh bahadur, gobind singh)
The concept of Saint Soldier was started by Guru Nanak Dev. Basically.. all Sikh gurus that followed Guru Nanak dev puts his sayings into practice. For example
Nanak shunned caste system, third guru Guru Amardas institunalized the langar where upper/lower caste cook and ate together.
Nanak wanted woman to have equal rights. so second and third gurus started appointing Woman as "preachers", remarrying the widows, stopped Sati, etc.
Nanak says that a person has be a Saint yet Soldier.... That's how the Khalsa Panth become. Guru Gobind Instutionalized the Nanak's saying into providing the Khalsa with dress code and weapons and need to protect the ancient indian values.
and so forth.... Each and every modern Sikh practice can be traced back to Guru Nanak Dev.
Sandeep
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I dont trust SIkhnet guys. Everyday i check Hukamnana from that site and unfotunately always found their english translation of hukamnana incorrect as well as biased in "certain" way.
In May 2004 Manmohan Singh became India's Prime Minister. When .....
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Mudy,
It is not correct that Sikhs became renowned as a fighting force due to Brits. It is true that when Sikhism arose it was largely a peaceful religious sect. But when Gurus were killed and the persecution of Hindus and Sikhs became the norm at the hands of muslims the Gurus of Sikhs decided to make Sikhs into a fighting force. For this reason the ballads of bravery were sung at Akal Takth to inspire the followers of Sikh Panth. These ballads were of rajput warriors from Rajasthan and UP/MP.
http://hindurajput.blogspot.com/#Banda_Bhadur
-Digvijay
-Digvijay
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The number 5 is very imporant according to Guru Naank.
There is a Panchayat, there are five "pravaan", there are five elements of life (ether, fire, air, water, ??)
There is kaam, krodh, lobh, moh, hankaar and there is satt, santokh, daya, dharam, sabr.
Thus the first five human sikh gurus were saints (nanak, angad, amardas, ramdas and arjan dev)
The last five human sikh gurus were soldiers (hargobind, har rai, har kishen, tegh bahadur, gobind singh)
The concept of Saint Soldier was started by Guru Nanak Dev. Basically.. all Sikh gurus that followed Guru Nanak dev puts his sayings into practice. For example
Nanak shunned caste system, third guru Guru Amardas institunalized the langar where upper/lower caste cook and ate together.
Nanak wanted woman to have equal rights. so second and third gurus started appointing Woman as "preachers", remarrying the widows, stopped Sati, etc.
Nanak says that a person has be a Saint yet Soldier.... That's how the Khalsa Panth become. Guru Gobind Instutionalized the Nanak's saying into providing the Khalsa with dress code and weapons and need to protect the ancient indian values.
and so forth.... Each and every modern Sikh practice can be traced back to Guru Nanak Dev.
Sandeep
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I dont trust SIkhnet guys. Everyday i check Hukamnana from that site and unfotunately always found their english translation of hukamnana incorrect as well as biased in "certain" way.