11-07-2006, 10:57 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Nov 7 2006, 08:17 AM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Nov 7 2006, 08:17 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sandeep,
I have read a story from a very respectable non-Sikh source. Is this a well known fact amongst Sikhs?
Tale is like this: Upto the first 3 Gurus, the Gurupad was not passed on to the son, but to the most able disciple within the Panth. Guru Angad Dev - the second Guru - had grown very old, so he passed on the responsibility of Panth to his disciple Guru Amardas - the third Guru - in his own life.Â
Once upon a time Guru Angad was taking bath. After taking bath he sat down on a wooden platform (takhat) and started meditating. Bhani Kunwar Ji - (wife of Guru Amardas ji) was sitting nearby to look after the aged Guru. One of the supports (paya) of the takhat was weak and started falling apart. Guru Angad was still in meditation, and nobody else was around. Bhani ji, afraid that aged Guru may fall down and get hurt, and seeing no other option, put her own feet in the place of the support. Nails digged into her flesh and weight of the platform was much. As a result she started bleeding profusely but did not wake the Guru up from his meditation.
When Guru Angad got up after meditating, he saw the scene, and felt greatly for the devotion of Bhaniji. In that state he asked Bhaniji to ask for any wish and it would be granted. She refused to ask, but Guru insisted. At last she said if Guru really wanted to bless her with something, she wanted that the Gurupad of Sikh panth should stay withing her children and their children, and not go to anyone outside her family.Â
Hearing this, Guru became very serious and sad. He said Gurupad only belongs to Guru Nanak and no one else had any authority to claim it or grant it. He further said sadly that since he had already promised her, her wish would be fulfilled, but from then onwards Sikh Gurus and their devoted Sikhs would endure great hardships, as this was a disobey to Guru Nanak.
Is above a well-known story? More details?
Also do you have some inputs about this post?
Thanks
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Well...... Talking about Gurgaddi.. here is the scoop.
Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji (Bedi subcaste) tested his both sons and rejected them as his successor. He wanted people who can put his values into practice. He picked a person named "Lahina Trehan" who was from Chuna Mandi Lahore, He renamed him as "Angad" i.e. "just like a part of my body" So second Guru Guru Angad was already in service of Guru Nanak dev for several years he had crafted a new language that he called "Gurmukhi" (now punjabi that is taught in punjab is the same) and he wrote everything that Guru nanak Said in his notebook in Gurmukhi language.
Sri Guru Angad Dev ji put Guru Nanak dev's sayings into practice and when his time came to depart he picked a person named Amardas Bhalla (not his sons or daughters whom he think were unfit to be Guru). Sri Guru Amardas ji earlier were devotee of temple at Naina Devi., but once when he was passing through Khadur Sahib, on hearing the Gurbani of Guru Angad dev ji decided to take him as his Guru. Guru Amardas ji lived at Khadur sahib serving Guru Angad ji and then became the Third Sikh Guru.
Guru Amardas ji had 3 sons and 2 twin daughters (bibi bhani and bibi dani). Guru Amardas was very very humble person and one of his daughter (bibi Bhani) was his a very devoted Sikh. So when time came for her to get married., one day Guru Amardas's wife saw a handsome person in a street selling "boiled gram" who distributed half of his wares freely to poor., Wife asked Guru to find a match "just like that boy", Guru Amardas replied that he is the unique person and asked him to send his parents. Thus this poor person named Ramdas Sodhi (who had been kicked out of his house after his father expired and was making ends meet by selling boiled gram) became son-in-law of third Guru Guru Amardas ji. Not only ... that.. at that Time Akbar was ruling India. He came to visit Guru Amardas ji., since Guru Amardas ji had just started langar he told emperor that only if he sat down with rest of Sikhs, he will be welcomed. Akbar was so immpressed that he gifted the land revenue of three villages to the daughter (bibi Bhani) of Guru Amardas ji.
Ramdas ji (son-in-law) was entrusted by third Guru to establish a city in the center of these three villages (gifted by Akbar), the city that was thus established was named "Ramdaspur" and later it became Amritsar. Bibi Bhani ji and Ramdas ji (both wife and husband) served Guru Amardas ji for many years (30+) and then when time came for Guru Amardas ji he passed on the Gurgaddi to Guru Ramdas ji Sodhi.
Fourth Guru Guru Ramdas ji Sodhi was on Gurgaddi for only 4 years., when he picked his younger son (arjan dev) and not elder son as his successor. This infuriated the elder son who along with other Sodhis tried to kill the younger son Arjan Dev.
Thus.. the fifth Guru Guru Arjan dev Sodhi... became the last spiritul saint of Sikhs. He compiled Adi Granth, created Golden Temple, installed adi granth there and then he was martyred at Lahore due to not converting to Islam as wished by Jahangir and Naqshbandi Muslims.
His Sons.. Guru Hargobind Sodhi became Sixth guru and he immediately created a small army (700 men) and started small skirmishes with Mughals... he was imprisoned by Shahjehan at Gwalior fort., one of his sons named Tyag Mal was renamed "Tegh Bahadur" (later became ninth guru and was martyred at Delhi) as he displayed a very good sword fighting during one such skirmish with Mughals.
Guru Hargobind ji made his Son HarRai was the seventh Guru. Guru Harrai was constanly harassed by Mughals and he spent many years in guerilla warfare in himalayas. for gurgaddi he raised his elder son named "Ram Rai" as his successor., but once Naqshbandi muslims found an offensive quote by Guru Nanak in the Adi Granth where Guru Nanak had compared "muslims to dishonest"., Aurungzeb asked for the Guru Harrai, since Guru Harrai was raising his elder son ramrai as the next guru, he was sent to Delhi to answer aurungzeb's questions. At delhi Ram rai got scared and he changed the bani of Guru Nanak to suit Aurungzeb. Thus Ramrai was disowned and disqualified for becoming the eighth guru., Guru Harrai made his 5 year old son named HarKishen as the eighth Guru. Guru Harkishen was only guru for 3 years when he caught small pox at Delhi, just before his death he appointed his uncle Tegh Bahadur as the next guru.
Guru Tegh Bahadur Sodhi became the ninth guru and was martyred at Delhi. His son Guru Gobind Singh became the last human Sikh Guru.
So.. technically the Sikh Gurguddi was all in Punjabi Khatris hand (Bedi, Trehan, Bhalla and Sodhi)
I have read a story from a very respectable non-Sikh source. Is this a well known fact amongst Sikhs?
Tale is like this: Upto the first 3 Gurus, the Gurupad was not passed on to the son, but to the most able disciple within the Panth. Guru Angad Dev - the second Guru - had grown very old, so he passed on the responsibility of Panth to his disciple Guru Amardas - the third Guru - in his own life.Â
Once upon a time Guru Angad was taking bath. After taking bath he sat down on a wooden platform (takhat) and started meditating. Bhani Kunwar Ji - (wife of Guru Amardas ji) was sitting nearby to look after the aged Guru. One of the supports (paya) of the takhat was weak and started falling apart. Guru Angad was still in meditation, and nobody else was around. Bhani ji, afraid that aged Guru may fall down and get hurt, and seeing no other option, put her own feet in the place of the support. Nails digged into her flesh and weight of the platform was much. As a result she started bleeding profusely but did not wake the Guru up from his meditation.
When Guru Angad got up after meditating, he saw the scene, and felt greatly for the devotion of Bhaniji. In that state he asked Bhaniji to ask for any wish and it would be granted. She refused to ask, but Guru insisted. At last she said if Guru really wanted to bless her with something, she wanted that the Gurupad of Sikh panth should stay withing her children and their children, and not go to anyone outside her family.Â
Hearing this, Guru became very serious and sad. He said Gurupad only belongs to Guru Nanak and no one else had any authority to claim it or grant it. He further said sadly that since he had already promised her, her wish would be fulfilled, but from then onwards Sikh Gurus and their devoted Sikhs would endure great hardships, as this was a disobey to Guru Nanak.
Is above a well-known story? More details?
Also do you have some inputs about this post?
Thanks
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Well...... Talking about Gurgaddi.. here is the scoop.
Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji (Bedi subcaste) tested his both sons and rejected them as his successor. He wanted people who can put his values into practice. He picked a person named "Lahina Trehan" who was from Chuna Mandi Lahore, He renamed him as "Angad" i.e. "just like a part of my body" So second Guru Guru Angad was already in service of Guru Nanak dev for several years he had crafted a new language that he called "Gurmukhi" (now punjabi that is taught in punjab is the same) and he wrote everything that Guru nanak Said in his notebook in Gurmukhi language.
Sri Guru Angad Dev ji put Guru Nanak dev's sayings into practice and when his time came to depart he picked a person named Amardas Bhalla (not his sons or daughters whom he think were unfit to be Guru). Sri Guru Amardas ji earlier were devotee of temple at Naina Devi., but once when he was passing through Khadur Sahib, on hearing the Gurbani of Guru Angad dev ji decided to take him as his Guru. Guru Amardas ji lived at Khadur sahib serving Guru Angad ji and then became the Third Sikh Guru.
Guru Amardas ji had 3 sons and 2 twin daughters (bibi bhani and bibi dani). Guru Amardas was very very humble person and one of his daughter (bibi Bhani) was his a very devoted Sikh. So when time came for her to get married., one day Guru Amardas's wife saw a handsome person in a street selling "boiled gram" who distributed half of his wares freely to poor., Wife asked Guru to find a match "just like that boy", Guru Amardas replied that he is the unique person and asked him to send his parents. Thus this poor person named Ramdas Sodhi (who had been kicked out of his house after his father expired and was making ends meet by selling boiled gram) became son-in-law of third Guru Guru Amardas ji. Not only ... that.. at that Time Akbar was ruling India. He came to visit Guru Amardas ji., since Guru Amardas ji had just started langar he told emperor that only if he sat down with rest of Sikhs, he will be welcomed. Akbar was so immpressed that he gifted the land revenue of three villages to the daughter (bibi Bhani) of Guru Amardas ji.
Ramdas ji (son-in-law) was entrusted by third Guru to establish a city in the center of these three villages (gifted by Akbar), the city that was thus established was named "Ramdaspur" and later it became Amritsar. Bibi Bhani ji and Ramdas ji (both wife and husband) served Guru Amardas ji for many years (30+) and then when time came for Guru Amardas ji he passed on the Gurgaddi to Guru Ramdas ji Sodhi.
Fourth Guru Guru Ramdas ji Sodhi was on Gurgaddi for only 4 years., when he picked his younger son (arjan dev) and not elder son as his successor. This infuriated the elder son who along with other Sodhis tried to kill the younger son Arjan Dev.
Thus.. the fifth Guru Guru Arjan dev Sodhi... became the last spiritul saint of Sikhs. He compiled Adi Granth, created Golden Temple, installed adi granth there and then he was martyred at Lahore due to not converting to Islam as wished by Jahangir and Naqshbandi Muslims.
His Sons.. Guru Hargobind Sodhi became Sixth guru and he immediately created a small army (700 men) and started small skirmishes with Mughals... he was imprisoned by Shahjehan at Gwalior fort., one of his sons named Tyag Mal was renamed "Tegh Bahadur" (later became ninth guru and was martyred at Delhi) as he displayed a very good sword fighting during one such skirmish with Mughals.
Guru Hargobind ji made his Son HarRai was the seventh Guru. Guru Harrai was constanly harassed by Mughals and he spent many years in guerilla warfare in himalayas. for gurgaddi he raised his elder son named "Ram Rai" as his successor., but once Naqshbandi muslims found an offensive quote by Guru Nanak in the Adi Granth where Guru Nanak had compared "muslims to dishonest"., Aurungzeb asked for the Guru Harrai, since Guru Harrai was raising his elder son ramrai as the next guru, he was sent to Delhi to answer aurungzeb's questions. At delhi Ram rai got scared and he changed the bani of Guru Nanak to suit Aurungzeb. Thus Ramrai was disowned and disqualified for becoming the eighth guru., Guru Harrai made his 5 year old son named HarKishen as the eighth Guru. Guru Harkishen was only guru for 3 years when he caught small pox at Delhi, just before his death he appointed his uncle Tegh Bahadur as the next guru.
Guru Tegh Bahadur Sodhi became the ninth guru and was martyred at Delhi. His son Guru Gobind Singh became the last human Sikh Guru.
So.. technically the Sikh Gurguddi was all in Punjabi Khatris hand (Bedi, Trehan, Bhalla and Sodhi)