11-10-2006, 12:56 AM
I was glad to find a ebook that answered many of the questions troubling me. http://voi.org/books/rig
the author rightly points out that,The trouble starts when we try to describe the Rig veda as religious text of allâ¦north indian people.the author states that:<i>The Vedic Aryans were not the ultimate ancestors of the different tribes and peoples found in the Sanskrit texts: they were in fact just one of these tribes and peoples. They have a definite historical identity: the Vedic Aryans were the PUrus of the ancient texts</i>
the few question answered are
Q1 rig veda dates to 5000 bc and scholars say that hymns were composed on river sarsvati where indo-iranians resided , the presence of asurâs as different from composers of ved indicate a small disparity like say any two sects of morden day Hinduism(Iranians also pray to sarasvati and call it xyz.) But ramayan dated to 5000 bc talks of ravan as asur and daev asur war.(this would put ramâs date to after indo-iranian split. Unless we assume Iranians are as yet not classified as asurs.
The book answers this question by proclaiming that writers of vedaâs were just the puru tribe. Then this animosity and describing as asur of any non puru tribe be it yadu or proto Iranians (which the author identifies as Anu tribe) can be successfully explained.
Again dating RV to 5000 bc (to3000bc) requires presence of preharappa sites on the sarasvati. So are there any pre-harappa sites there??
RV belongs to pro harrapa period, so when sarasvati stops being a sea going river (prior to 3000 bc) the population moves east ,S and west (wets movement indicating a split and not nnecc a fight between indo Iranians) this time period of east movement can successfully explain the 3000 bc central-India Mahabharat war.(does RV mention eastern rivers and habitations?) also this east movement of civilization will be termed as the FIRST MIGRATION , because the second migration occurs after the disappearance of sarasvati~1900âs (again presence of a high civilization on the still mighty sarasvati in 2500 BC and lack of regular mention of the river in mahabharat will put MB dates in jeopardy and it will have to be dated after desiccation of the river.
The author ,by putting the various chapters of the rig veda , in a correct chronological order,shows us that earlier society was spread from sarasvati to ganga and later they become of Indus and .thus various tribes were already in their respective regions, for the geographical locations required for mahabharat
the author rightly points out that,The trouble starts when we try to describe the Rig veda as religious text of allâ¦north indian people.the author states that:<i>The Vedic Aryans were not the ultimate ancestors of the different tribes and peoples found in the Sanskrit texts: they were in fact just one of these tribes and peoples. They have a definite historical identity: the Vedic Aryans were the PUrus of the ancient texts</i>
the few question answered are
Q1 rig veda dates to 5000 bc and scholars say that hymns were composed on river sarsvati where indo-iranians resided , the presence of asurâs as different from composers of ved indicate a small disparity like say any two sects of morden day Hinduism(Iranians also pray to sarasvati and call it xyz.) But ramayan dated to 5000 bc talks of ravan as asur and daev asur war.(this would put ramâs date to after indo-iranian split. Unless we assume Iranians are as yet not classified as asurs.
The book answers this question by proclaiming that writers of vedaâs were just the puru tribe. Then this animosity and describing as asur of any non puru tribe be it yadu or proto Iranians (which the author identifies as Anu tribe) can be successfully explained.
Again dating RV to 5000 bc (to3000bc) requires presence of preharappa sites on the sarasvati. So are there any pre-harappa sites there??
RV belongs to pro harrapa period, so when sarasvati stops being a sea going river (prior to 3000 bc) the population moves east ,S and west (wets movement indicating a split and not nnecc a fight between indo Iranians) this time period of east movement can successfully explain the 3000 bc central-India Mahabharat war.(does RV mention eastern rivers and habitations?) also this east movement of civilization will be termed as the FIRST MIGRATION , because the second migration occurs after the disappearance of sarasvati~1900âs (again presence of a high civilization on the still mighty sarasvati in 2500 BC and lack of regular mention of the river in mahabharat will put MB dates in jeopardy and it will have to be dated after desiccation of the river.
The author ,by putting the various chapters of the rig veda , in a correct chronological order,shows us that earlier society was spread from sarasvati to ganga and later they become of Indus and .thus various tribes were already in their respective regions, for the geographical locations required for mahabharat