11-17-2006, 05:36 PM
Looking around at various fora, and reading the news when it comes to pakistani discussions it often seems that the GOI is more reactive and hardly pro active when it comes to dealing with pakistan and the various threats it has posed since partition.
Pakistan established itself as an islamic state during partition and constantly needs to remind themselves as to the reasons for its continued existence. Putting it bluntly, it has been for the last 1000 years a clash between two civilisations in the Sub continent, being the islamists vs the Hindu cultures.
Pakistan managed to partition bharat and the clash of civilisations continues on today, with pakistan needing to instill greater and greater radical islamic teachings in its madrassahs to
a) Provide Islam as a primary continuing factor for nationalism.
b) Provide a sense of Unity among its various states that bear a resentment towards Punjab.
c) Provide a sense of cause where in national problems by the common man are ignored, like increasing levels of poverty and increasing levels of unemployment and instead these sentiments are fuelled towards their perception of India being the problem.
d) Kashmir thus serves as a factor for jihad and unity among muslims, to the fact that socio economic problems as listed above are being ignored and the chain of madrassahs serves as an ever ready source for trained terrorists to wage jihad.
e) The small minority elite which controls most of the land and wealth, employs the greater part of the population for agricultural purposes are staunchly opposed to greater democratic principles and support the dictatorship army to toe the line towards their needs.
f) Indeed the exponential growth of madrassahs and radical Islamic teaching has seen greater prominence for Pakistan with numerous links around the world to terrorist activities.
Indeed Pakistan has been successful to an extent with much of the above, for the fact that it has :
a) Invaded and held onto territory after the first Kashmir war, hold onto a large tract of Kashmir which it has renamed as the Northern territories.
b) Created a land bridge with China, who uses Pakistan as its proxy for furthering its own ideals towards destabilsing India.
c) As a proxy from China and after handing over land in Kashmir for which it had no right, has enjoyed chinaâs assistance in military transfers including combat jets, nuclear weapons and delivery systems making it a nuclear state and a severe threat now to Indiaâs security.
d) Managed to toe the line when it comes to their foreign policy with regard to the US, and have now received F16 combat jets and bvr capability.
e) Managed to acquire AWACS capability with the Erieye system, with US support and financial aid.
f) Potential order of further submarines from france, again with US financial aid.
g) Serving to polarize Indiaâs society and often instigating acts of terrorism in India through suicide bombings in public places with wanton killing of innocents on a weekly basis to create confusion organized by the clandestine army wing known as ISI.
h) Serve to take advantage of points of discord between India and its other neighbours, often serving to fund terrorist activities from these countries against India and pushing terrorists and weapons from their respective borders. Bangladesh has established itself as another thorn.
i) Received much fianancial aid from Saudi Arabia to fund the growth of madrassahs and churn out waves of radicalized youth for their objectives as listed.
So now we have a reasonable idea of the problem, Iâd like this thread to focus on future plans as to how we can deal with Pakistan. Personally I feel that it is in Indiaâs and now the worlds interest to see that Pakistan in its current form cannot exist and that it needs to be dismembered for long term peace and stability.
In the following posts Iâd like to start and will add later as to what Indiaâs future policy needs to address now with regards to Pakistan on both a <b>strategic and a military </b>aspect so that we can address this constant thorn in our side that seeks to bleed India and its people.
Hopefully we will be able to see if a pattern emerges between what is posted in this thread and if it is in anyway related to Indiaâs policy.
Pakistan established itself as an islamic state during partition and constantly needs to remind themselves as to the reasons for its continued existence. Putting it bluntly, it has been for the last 1000 years a clash between two civilisations in the Sub continent, being the islamists vs the Hindu cultures.
Pakistan managed to partition bharat and the clash of civilisations continues on today, with pakistan needing to instill greater and greater radical islamic teachings in its madrassahs to
a) Provide Islam as a primary continuing factor for nationalism.
b) Provide a sense of Unity among its various states that bear a resentment towards Punjab.
c) Provide a sense of cause where in national problems by the common man are ignored, like increasing levels of poverty and increasing levels of unemployment and instead these sentiments are fuelled towards their perception of India being the problem.
d) Kashmir thus serves as a factor for jihad and unity among muslims, to the fact that socio economic problems as listed above are being ignored and the chain of madrassahs serves as an ever ready source for trained terrorists to wage jihad.
e) The small minority elite which controls most of the land and wealth, employs the greater part of the population for agricultural purposes are staunchly opposed to greater democratic principles and support the dictatorship army to toe the line towards their needs.
f) Indeed the exponential growth of madrassahs and radical Islamic teaching has seen greater prominence for Pakistan with numerous links around the world to terrorist activities.
Indeed Pakistan has been successful to an extent with much of the above, for the fact that it has :
a) Invaded and held onto territory after the first Kashmir war, hold onto a large tract of Kashmir which it has renamed as the Northern territories.
b) Created a land bridge with China, who uses Pakistan as its proxy for furthering its own ideals towards destabilsing India.
c) As a proxy from China and after handing over land in Kashmir for which it had no right, has enjoyed chinaâs assistance in military transfers including combat jets, nuclear weapons and delivery systems making it a nuclear state and a severe threat now to Indiaâs security.
d) Managed to toe the line when it comes to their foreign policy with regard to the US, and have now received F16 combat jets and bvr capability.
e) Managed to acquire AWACS capability with the Erieye system, with US support and financial aid.
f) Potential order of further submarines from france, again with US financial aid.
g) Serving to polarize Indiaâs society and often instigating acts of terrorism in India through suicide bombings in public places with wanton killing of innocents on a weekly basis to create confusion organized by the clandestine army wing known as ISI.
h) Serve to take advantage of points of discord between India and its other neighbours, often serving to fund terrorist activities from these countries against India and pushing terrorists and weapons from their respective borders. Bangladesh has established itself as another thorn.
i) Received much fianancial aid from Saudi Arabia to fund the growth of madrassahs and churn out waves of radicalized youth for their objectives as listed.
So now we have a reasonable idea of the problem, Iâd like this thread to focus on future plans as to how we can deal with Pakistan. Personally I feel that it is in Indiaâs and now the worlds interest to see that Pakistan in its current form cannot exist and that it needs to be dismembered for long term peace and stability.
In the following posts Iâd like to start and will add later as to what Indiaâs future policy needs to address now with regards to Pakistan on both a <b>strategic and a military </b>aspect so that we can address this constant thorn in our side that seeks to bleed India and its people.
Hopefully we will be able to see if a pattern emerges between what is posted in this thread and if it is in anyway related to Indiaâs policy.