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A Discussion on Left"isms" & Relevance to India
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Regarding my own post 142:
the democratic socialism in Europe has nothing to do with what is known as communism/socialism.

Post 143:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->These are my beliefs as a leftist, and I do not see why it's anti-national, as most people seem to allege. It is rational and also quite similar to Hinduism, which propagates ahimsa.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Not similar to Hinduism. Ahimsa is for certain people (yogis, sannyasins, and the like). Otherwise we believed in defense and fighting adharma. That's why we had Kshatriyas and why even many villagers could fight in self-defense. For all Hindus to practise ahimsa, at a time when negotiations don't work and violence is brought to our very doorstep and threatens our families, is adharma of a very high order. Please don't speak of Hinduism when you don't really know it (beyond having a Hindu name).

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Besides, aside from left and right, there's nothing else, third-way economics is a farce. Hence, Indians must choose between the two, and in my view, left is certainly better.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Where have I heard this before? That's right:
'It's either christoislamic hell or christoislamic heaven'. 'You're either for us or against us'. 'Dar-ul-harb or Dar-ul-Islam'. 'Capitalist or communist'. 'Fascist or communist'.
Sorry. My options are much greater. There's not just black and white, there is green, blue, red and infinitely more colours. I am sorry you are living in a monochrome world (not even the grey scale of the west where the western political systems have more than left and right).

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Look at the right-wing of USA and the damage they've done to the world.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes. And also look at the death tolls courtesy of Stalin and Mao. Mao and his idiotic plans were responsible for 100 million Chinese deaths. Also what I call serious damage. Hence left is beyond consideration too - don't complain, because I am using the same logic here.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Secularism: every religion is respected (not hated and abused) <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That is not secularism. Please study what the real meaning of secularism is. Also, since nazism is a kind of religion (as is communism), ought it to be respected?
Study other religions before making a blanket statement. Because you don't appear to know much about christianity and islam.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There is simply no other alternative to leftist ideology, and even the Mahatma subscribed to it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Which Mahatma? Oh, Gandhi. Even if it were true, he ain't god. In any case, I can think for myself and don't need to accept and/or follow everything that some respected person did and believed. Obviously it's hard for <i>some</i> others to think for themselves.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There is simply no other alternative to leftist ideology.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I know communists believe that repetition of a non-fact turns it into a fact. But do what scientists do: conduct an unbiased experiment. Try it: if you keep repeating this statement of yours, will it come true?

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I really hope people could be mature about this, and NOT start abusing people who have different beliefs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I'm not a confused leftist. I have the right to say what I want. And if I want to make fun of someone, then I will. Not planning to yet, though.
But you are right about how leftism/communism is a belief.
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