12-03-2006, 06:23 AM
Don't know if this link has been posted before. Gives the statewise forward caste distribution in percentage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StatewiseFC.jpg
Obviously Maharashtra, Punjab, Gujarat, WB and Goa are the best places for educated salaried forward castes if they want their sons and daughters to get seats in engineering and medical colleges. Who knows by settling in all these places, "forward" castes can actually become the majority, thereby giving less justification for huge reservation to "backward castes". Or the politicians seeing a bigger votebank will start advocating reservations for "forward" castes.
Tamil Nadu has 87% "backward" castes including SCs STs. It incidentally also is one of the prosperous and most industrialized states in the country. <b>Cannot imagine that 87% of the population is still backward with state moving so much forward or is it that all the benefits of progess has been pocketed by the 2-3% Brahmins in the state.</b> Frankly this seems like if we were to argue in Pakistan, Muslims being given reservation bcos they are above 90% or in India, Hindus been given reservation bcos they are 83%. Tamil Nadu state govt's logic is that since they have more % of backward castes, hence they should be allowed to give greater reservation. Obviously if you are heading a state where you argue 87% of your own janata is backward, then you have some serious inferiority complex or you want to garner 87% of the vote. I actually feel at present at least in states such as TN, "forward" castes are being victimized because they are a minority.
Please see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservation...column-one
and
http://www.hindu.com/2005/07/20/stories/...970100.htm
The point is what benefit is reserving a few 100 seats and some more at IITs going to do to alleviate the condition of the actual backward sections of the society, who don't even have access to good primary education.
The flaw is with the concept of reservation itself. I can be accused of being very general and metaphorical, but I can't but say that it seems to be to be a cructh for the lame person. You essentially say the lame person that don't worry you stay lame for life, the crutch will take care of you. A crutch can be good as an initial starting point, it also can build a self confidence, but then you need to make a person stronger from within. Do we want India to be a nation of weak men or a nation where every person can have the character to come up in life regardless where he was born. Sadly we don't have nation builders today, we have only those who harvest what has already been sown. There has been some Gandhi bashing in some discussions on this forum, but the great thing about Gandhi was he built the character of a nation. He said to be free, you got to be ready to take freedom. As a nation are we ready today for greater heights. This question needs to be asked by each and every Indian regardless of his caste or religion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StatewiseFC.jpg
Obviously Maharashtra, Punjab, Gujarat, WB and Goa are the best places for educated salaried forward castes if they want their sons and daughters to get seats in engineering and medical colleges. Who knows by settling in all these places, "forward" castes can actually become the majority, thereby giving less justification for huge reservation to "backward castes". Or the politicians seeing a bigger votebank will start advocating reservations for "forward" castes.
Tamil Nadu has 87% "backward" castes including SCs STs. It incidentally also is one of the prosperous and most industrialized states in the country. <b>Cannot imagine that 87% of the population is still backward with state moving so much forward or is it that all the benefits of progess has been pocketed by the 2-3% Brahmins in the state.</b> Frankly this seems like if we were to argue in Pakistan, Muslims being given reservation bcos they are above 90% or in India, Hindus been given reservation bcos they are 83%. Tamil Nadu state govt's logic is that since they have more % of backward castes, hence they should be allowed to give greater reservation. Obviously if you are heading a state where you argue 87% of your own janata is backward, then you have some serious inferiority complex or you want to garner 87% of the vote. I actually feel at present at least in states such as TN, "forward" castes are being victimized because they are a minority.
Please see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservation...column-one
and
http://www.hindu.com/2005/07/20/stories/...970100.htm
The point is what benefit is reserving a few 100 seats and some more at IITs going to do to alleviate the condition of the actual backward sections of the society, who don't even have access to good primary education.
The flaw is with the concept of reservation itself. I can be accused of being very general and metaphorical, but I can't but say that it seems to be to be a cructh for the lame person. You essentially say the lame person that don't worry you stay lame for life, the crutch will take care of you. A crutch can be good as an initial starting point, it also can build a self confidence, but then you need to make a person stronger from within. Do we want India to be a nation of weak men or a nation where every person can have the character to come up in life regardless where he was born. Sadly we don't have nation builders today, we have only those who harvest what has already been sown. There has been some Gandhi bashing in some discussions on this forum, but the great thing about Gandhi was he built the character of a nation. He said to be free, you got to be ready to take freedom. As a nation are we ready today for greater heights. This question needs to be asked by each and every Indian regardless of his caste or religion.