04-14-2004, 03:44 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Ashok Kumar+Apr 13 2004, 03:46 AM-->QUOTE(Ashok Kumar @ Apr 13 2004, 03:46 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> 2. IIRC the last ice age started receding around 20000 years ago. It doesn't make sense for people to live/move up north during the ice age.  But we also have the story of the "jalapralaya" or the great flood. People date it to about 10000 years ago. Manu's story of "jalapralaya" and his going north to Himalayas for survival points to northward migration.Â
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AK,
we must keep in mind that some people have proposed a major Black Sea flooding event around 5600 B.C. This hypothesis suggests that there was a rise in the sea level of the Black Sea by about 100-150 m resulting in rather destructive consequences for the surrounding civilizations. The jala pralaya myth is clearly recorded in the vedic texts like the shatapatha brAhmaNa as old history. It re-occurs in pauranic mythology as the starting point of the current dashAvatara cycle. We see this specific mythic motif with the ship also in other cultures. Thus, the Black sea flood proponents claim that the origin of the myth was a result of those cultures being close to the actual event. Interestingly, the Iranian texts talk about a hima pralaya instead of the flood. Some Pauranic texts too mention the hima pralaya, though I do not remember which ones offhand. I am sympathetic to the Black seak flood idea though I do not entirely accept it.
But we may imagine the following:
-The Black Sea flood: 5600 BC
-The dispersion of the Indo-Europeans and the separation of the Greek+Slavic+Indo-Iranian branch from the rest
-4500 BC the Greeks and Indo-Iranians have separated from their home land and are diverging away with memories of Orion at the equinox.
-4500-3000 BC core R^ig composition begins.
See URL for recent conference on the Black sea flood
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AK,
we must keep in mind that some people have proposed a major Black Sea flooding event around 5600 B.C. This hypothesis suggests that there was a rise in the sea level of the Black Sea by about 100-150 m resulting in rather destructive consequences for the surrounding civilizations. The jala pralaya myth is clearly recorded in the vedic texts like the shatapatha brAhmaNa as old history. It re-occurs in pauranic mythology as the starting point of the current dashAvatara cycle. We see this specific mythic motif with the ship also in other cultures. Thus, the Black sea flood proponents claim that the origin of the myth was a result of those cultures being close to the actual event. Interestingly, the Iranian texts talk about a hima pralaya instead of the flood. Some Pauranic texts too mention the hima pralaya, though I do not remember which ones offhand. I am sympathetic to the Black seak flood idea though I do not entirely accept it.
But we may imagine the following:
-The Black Sea flood: 5600 BC
-The dispersion of the Indo-Europeans and the separation of the Greek+Slavic+Indo-Iranian branch from the rest
-4500 BC the Greeks and Indo-Iranians have separated from their home land and are diverging away with memories of Orion at the equinox.
-4500-3000 BC core R^ig composition begins.
See URL for recent conference on the Black sea flood