12-30-2006, 02:13 AM
Thank you Vishwas for taking it in the spirit. For a moment I thought you were defending the savages, when you asked in bold letters for "evidence" of arrogance of these inhuman barbarians.
Anyway....
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Why such hard and fast requirement? Just why? I have been on these boards for several years. We have passed far worse judgement with way little evidence when it suited our collective apprehension about the perpetrators. Please dont ask me to point out evidence etc...but you know about who. So why this extraordinary burden this time? Is is because it is Hindus killing Hindus and the age-old caste system rears its ugly head. Are we afraid our commie adversaries might become more bolder?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Caste atrocities have occurred in other places in the past, and I am familiar with them. But, where they have occurred, they were perpetrated against the entire lower caste population of a village, not against a single family, and that too a very caste-specific provocation, like not showing "sufficient respect" to the land-owning caste. That is not the case here.
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Thank you for corroborating. But does it mean that an isolated incident does not occur at all? Come on. I have known personal incidents (certainly none passes the nature of this one) where individuals or individual Dalit families have been mauled just because they tried to prosper.
To tell you the truth, my interest and why I speak passionately on this board about this case is for the following reasons.
1. If Hindu Unity is to be established, Dalits <b>must</b> become part and parcel as equals.
2. There are genuine Dalit grievances. Indignity is a reality.
3. If RSS/VHP/BJP have to prosper they must listen, act and have a true following of Dalits. Not a pseudo following like Kanshi Ram or Mayawati but true in nature but mayawati type in numbers. For that they must listen.
4. Incidents like this is when Parivar must step in with real vigor. Remember this happened in the Nagpur region, backyard of the RSS.
We should not be afraid or ashamed of caste practices in rural areas. Or even be weak considerig that by merely recognizing them the bubble is going to break. It is only by recognizing that we will be able to break it after all.
Apprently I am having a hard time even making people realize that we have a caste problem.
Anyway....
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->No one on this board is calling into question the facts of the case (though the CBI is), which is a case of premeditated, multiple murder. We are merely disputing the interpretation of the activists - that the caste angle (in the sense of superiority or pecking order) has much to do with this case.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why such hard and fast requirement? Just why? I have been on these boards for several years. We have passed far worse judgement with way little evidence when it suited our collective apprehension about the perpetrators. Please dont ask me to point out evidence etc...but you know about who. So why this extraordinary burden this time? Is is because it is Hindus killing Hindus and the age-old caste system rears its ugly head. Are we afraid our commie adversaries might become more bolder?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Caste atrocities have occurred in other places in the past, and I am familiar with them. But, where they have occurred, they were perpetrated against the entire lower caste population of a village, not against a single family, and that too a very caste-specific provocation, like not showing "sufficient respect" to the land-owning caste. That is not the case here.
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Thank you for corroborating. But does it mean that an isolated incident does not occur at all? Come on. I have known personal incidents (certainly none passes the nature of this one) where individuals or individual Dalit families have been mauled just because they tried to prosper.
To tell you the truth, my interest and why I speak passionately on this board about this case is for the following reasons.
1. If Hindu Unity is to be established, Dalits <b>must</b> become part and parcel as equals.
2. There are genuine Dalit grievances. Indignity is a reality.
3. If RSS/VHP/BJP have to prosper they must listen, act and have a true following of Dalits. Not a pseudo following like Kanshi Ram or Mayawati but true in nature but mayawati type in numbers. For that they must listen.
4. Incidents like this is when Parivar must step in with real vigor. Remember this happened in the Nagpur region, backyard of the RSS.
We should not be afraid or ashamed of caste practices in rural areas. Or even be weak considerig that by merely recognizing them the bubble is going to break. It is only by recognizing that we will be able to break it after all.
Apprently I am having a hard time even making people realize that we have a caste problem.