<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The Vatican was terribly happy when Orthodox Russia and other nearby Orthodox countries went communist. </b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
this was back in 1917. what indications do you have that they understood the forest fire effects of communism back then? what other instances can we think of, where they have applied the forest effect for laying waste to traditional categories? church has a v long history.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>It is easy to see why the Vatican has struck a deal with China and traded in their present interests in Taiwan to work with the big fish instead.</b> ( http://www.newamericancentury.org/taiwan-20050407.htm )<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
this explains the problem we encountered in the another thread on China. why phillipines could easily be turned into a catholic wasteland but the related taiwan was left untouched.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->According to Bishop Joseph Zen of Hong Kong, <b>the Vatican is on the verge of breaking ties with Taipei in order to establish them with Beijing, which outlaws the Catholic Church and maintains communist-controlled official churches.</b>
No one at the Vatican has stepped forward to confirm or deny the Bishop's prediction. But it's hard to imagine such a deal with the Chinese communists being hatched at a time when John Paul II was at the height of his powers. Indeed, it's hard to see such a deal as anything but a repudiation of much of what he stood for. And it's hard to imagine what the Vatican could be thinking it might get out of any deal with the communist camarilla in Peking.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Barring countries or regions converted by force in the colonial era, isn't it funny that<span style='color:blue'> christianity doesn't catch on at all in Asia unless it is preceeded by the forest-fire of communism to clear the land of all the old ways first? Asia seems to only be susceptible to communism, but immune to christianity otherwise.
(So too would Europe and N and S America have been, but their people were forcibly converted/genocided by christianity at a time before communism existed.)</b></span><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Christianity is the weed that springs up (is planted) in the fertile land once the fires have burnt out.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is <b>exactly </b>what rushdie (satanic verses) said about the rise of Islam in Arabia.
why did mohammad repeatedly refer to 'Hind' as leader of the "polytheists". why is 'buth' (?) the arabian word for idol (from Buddha). christianity could not have taken root unless the social desert had been formed before the rise the christianity. why is the rise of judaism specifically associated with liberation from babylon via the indic persians.
this was back in 1917. what indications do you have that they understood the forest fire effects of communism back then? what other instances can we think of, where they have applied the forest effect for laying waste to traditional categories? church has a v long history.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>It is easy to see why the Vatican has struck a deal with China and traded in their present interests in Taiwan to work with the big fish instead.</b> ( http://www.newamericancentury.org/taiwan-20050407.htm )<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
this explains the problem we encountered in the another thread on China. why phillipines could easily be turned into a catholic wasteland but the related taiwan was left untouched.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->According to Bishop Joseph Zen of Hong Kong, <b>the Vatican is on the verge of breaking ties with Taipei in order to establish them with Beijing, which outlaws the Catholic Church and maintains communist-controlled official churches.</b>
No one at the Vatican has stepped forward to confirm or deny the Bishop's prediction. But it's hard to imagine such a deal with the Chinese communists being hatched at a time when John Paul II was at the height of his powers. Indeed, it's hard to see such a deal as anything but a repudiation of much of what he stood for. And it's hard to imagine what the Vatican could be thinking it might get out of any deal with the communist camarilla in Peking.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Barring countries or regions converted by force in the colonial era, isn't it funny that<span style='color:blue'> christianity doesn't catch on at all in Asia unless it is preceeded by the forest-fire of communism to clear the land of all the old ways first? Asia seems to only be susceptible to communism, but immune to christianity otherwise.
(So too would Europe and N and S America have been, but their people were forcibly converted/genocided by christianity at a time before communism existed.)</b></span><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Christianity is the weed that springs up (is planted) in the fertile land once the fires have burnt out.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is <b>exactly </b>what rushdie (satanic verses) said about the rise of Islam in Arabia.
why did mohammad repeatedly refer to 'Hind' as leader of the "polytheists". why is 'buth' (?) the arabian word for idol (from Buddha). christianity could not have taken root unless the social desert had been formed before the rise the christianity. why is the rise of judaism specifically associated with liberation from babylon via the indic persians.