Even in ueber-tolerant Netherlands, the islamics are whining that the rules aren't as flexible as they would like and complaining about the image that their terrorist imams have given themselves.
My annoying, interrupting comments interspersed in purple.
http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/ar...n/ja/index.html for the original.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>'Imams are leaving The Netherlands in massive numbers'</b>
Thursday 18 January 2007
Imams are not feeling at home here and are leaving in massive numbers for countries like Belgium and Spain, where they think to have more freedoms. Their replacements are often illegals without any experience.
(Good luck finding a more tolerant western country than the Netherlands. Ingrates.)
That is what Mohamed Ousalah, vice-chairman of the Union of Imams in The Netherlands (VIN), says today in De Telegraaf.
<b>'Amateur Imams'</b>
'The situation is critical. In The Hague, Utrecht and Amsterdam, tens of imams have already left,' so says Ousalah. Because of the departure of the imams, 180 of the <b>450 mosques</b> would be without spiritual leader.
( <!--emo&:o--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' /><!--endemo--> So many mosques in the little Netherlands!)
To prevent that 'amateur imams' will preach to the faithful of the Dutch mosques, Ousalah as the vice-chairman of the VIN has had to increasingly more often play backup in a Utrecht mosque. Their replacements are mostly unqualified and even often illegals without any experience.
<b>Naturalising-training course</b>
Vice-chairman Driss el-Boujufi of the Union of Maroccan Muslim Organisations in The Netherlands says, in a response column to the newsservices ANP, that the rules of the Dutch government are too strict.
(In other words: 'We want to have no more security checks; then we can easily bring in islamoterrorist imams again, like we were doing before!')
El-Boujufi says that a vacancy for imam must first be reported at the Centre for Work and Income (CWI). If after half a year a suitable and qualified imam is not yet found, than the mosque-management can then search in other countries.
Often, inexperienced imams are brought over from neighbouring countries like Belgium and France then. But they must then first also take a naturalising-training course, so says el-Boujufi.
(Oh, boo-hoo. Where's my tissue?)
<b>Anti-islamic mood</b>
Ousalah imputes the massive exodus of imams to the negative image of the imams in The Netherlands: according to him, they have been associated with extremism and terrorism by politicians and the media ever since the attacks of 11 September 2001 and the murder of Theo van Gogh.
(Ever the victims. Of course it's not the islamoterrorists who were to blame for their own image!
An Islamoterrorist imam cursed Theo van Gogh. An imam preached against Van Gogh, inciting a listening faithful to the murder. Mosques and islamic schools in the Netherlands celebrated the downing of the WTC in America. Gee, I wonder where the image the Dutch have of islamics comes from...)
In The Netherlands, an 'anti-islamic mood' would apparently be prevailing, more than in other European countries. And politicians are contributing to that by '[unfamiliar Dutch phrase, then] calling for expulsion'.
(Oh poor victimised jihadis, never like it when their j-hadism is finally recognised in a host country.)
But Ousalah says also that many imams leave because they don't have a valid residence-permit. A few religious leaders would in the meantime be living again in Marocco, because they have lost all hope of a Dutch residence permit.
(Evil Dutch government. Why won't it speed up the residency for islamic imams, while still dealing with other migrants and refugees' residency in the normal speed?)
Start of November, minister of Integration Rita Verdonk didn't manage to expel the imam Bersham of Eindhoven's Al Fourkaan mosque, who was preaching radical islam according to the AIVD (Dutch Intelligence and Security Services). According to the Amsterdam court, The Netherlands is not allowed to expel foreigners for no reason, even if they are considered to be 'dangerous to the state' by the security services.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> That last is very foolish. Come on Netherlands, don't become a Dhimmistan. Kick out individuals known for being a danger to the state.
See also posts 264 and 260 of the last Islamism thread for further/background information on imams as well as visiting preachers in the Netherlands.
My annoying, interrupting comments interspersed in purple.
http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/ar...n/ja/index.html for the original.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>'Imams are leaving The Netherlands in massive numbers'</b>
Thursday 18 January 2007
Imams are not feeling at home here and are leaving in massive numbers for countries like Belgium and Spain, where they think to have more freedoms. Their replacements are often illegals without any experience.
(Good luck finding a more tolerant western country than the Netherlands. Ingrates.)
That is what Mohamed Ousalah, vice-chairman of the Union of Imams in The Netherlands (VIN), says today in De Telegraaf.
<b>'Amateur Imams'</b>
'The situation is critical. In The Hague, Utrecht and Amsterdam, tens of imams have already left,' so says Ousalah. Because of the departure of the imams, 180 of the <b>450 mosques</b> would be without spiritual leader.
( <!--emo&:o--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' /><!--endemo--> So many mosques in the little Netherlands!)
To prevent that 'amateur imams' will preach to the faithful of the Dutch mosques, Ousalah as the vice-chairman of the VIN has had to increasingly more often play backup in a Utrecht mosque. Their replacements are mostly unqualified and even often illegals without any experience.
<b>Naturalising-training course</b>
Vice-chairman Driss el-Boujufi of the Union of Maroccan Muslim Organisations in The Netherlands says, in a response column to the newsservices ANP, that the rules of the Dutch government are too strict.
(In other words: 'We want to have no more security checks; then we can easily bring in islamoterrorist imams again, like we were doing before!')
El-Boujufi says that a vacancy for imam must first be reported at the Centre for Work and Income (CWI). If after half a year a suitable and qualified imam is not yet found, than the mosque-management can then search in other countries.
Often, inexperienced imams are brought over from neighbouring countries like Belgium and France then. But they must then first also take a naturalising-training course, so says el-Boujufi.
(Oh, boo-hoo. Where's my tissue?)
<b>Anti-islamic mood</b>
Ousalah imputes the massive exodus of imams to the negative image of the imams in The Netherlands: according to him, they have been associated with extremism and terrorism by politicians and the media ever since the attacks of 11 September 2001 and the murder of Theo van Gogh.
(Ever the victims. Of course it's not the islamoterrorists who were to blame for their own image!
An Islamoterrorist imam cursed Theo van Gogh. An imam preached against Van Gogh, inciting a listening faithful to the murder. Mosques and islamic schools in the Netherlands celebrated the downing of the WTC in America. Gee, I wonder where the image the Dutch have of islamics comes from...)
In The Netherlands, an 'anti-islamic mood' would apparently be prevailing, more than in other European countries. And politicians are contributing to that by '[unfamiliar Dutch phrase, then] calling for expulsion'.
(Oh poor victimised jihadis, never like it when their j-hadism is finally recognised in a host country.)
But Ousalah says also that many imams leave because they don't have a valid residence-permit. A few religious leaders would in the meantime be living again in Marocco, because they have lost all hope of a Dutch residence permit.
(Evil Dutch government. Why won't it speed up the residency for islamic imams, while still dealing with other migrants and refugees' residency in the normal speed?)
Start of November, minister of Integration Rita Verdonk didn't manage to expel the imam Bersham of Eindhoven's Al Fourkaan mosque, who was preaching radical islam according to the AIVD (Dutch Intelligence and Security Services). According to the Amsterdam court, The Netherlands is not allowed to expel foreigners for no reason, even if they are considered to be 'dangerous to the state' by the security services.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> That last is very foolish. Come on Netherlands, don't become a Dhimmistan. Kick out individuals known for being a danger to the state.
See also posts 264 and 260 of the last Islamism thread for further/background information on imams as well as visiting preachers in the Netherlands.