<b>Mudy's post 116 (immediately above) is more important.</b>
Netherlands is afraid of islam and of the consequences of putting its foot down. Islam is winning, then?
http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/politiek/art...n/ja/index.html has the original.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Ministry fears violence because of burqa ban</b>
Monday 20 November 2006
In an internal memo, the ministry of Foreign Affairs warns that Netherlands must 'seriously take into account' the violent protests in islamic countries due to the burqa ban.
Foreign Affairs is afraid of a repetition of the situation such as the Danish cartoons of the prophet Mohammed, so writes the AD [newspaper]. The comic cartoons led end last year to massive demonstrations in islamic countries, whereby many died. Western embassies were also attacked.
<b>Reaction</b>
'In the current climate, a vehement reaction is to be expected,' so it is written in the notice. The proposed ban was world-news last weekend. Malaysia condemned a burqaban Sunday in name of 57 islamic countries. It is, according to the country, a discriminating measure that violates the rights of muslims.
Friday, minister of Immigrant/Foreigner Affairs Rita Verdonk (VVD) gave to know that she was working on a law-proposal that bans the burqa in (semi-) public places, such as on street and in public transport. According to the minister, there are no legal obstactles to such a ban.
<b>Submission</b>
The notice of Foreign Affairs not only warns about the consequences of a burqa ban, but also for the risks that the continuation of the film Submission of senior member of parliament, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, brings with it.
'In view of Submission II, the government is seriously worrying about the international reactions and how this can be contained,' it says in the notice.
By Ingrid van der Chijs<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The following is related to post 255 of previous Islamism thread
http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/politiek/art...n/ja/index.html has the original of the following.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Hirsch Ballin dismisses sharia-wills</b>
Friday 22 December 2006
Muslims aren't allowed to have wills drawn up as per the islamic laws where daughters get only half of what their brothers get, minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin of Justice (CDA) finds.
Notaries who've been asked to draw up such wills, would have to refuse this, Hirsch Ballin declared today after written questions from party-chairman Geert Wilders of the Partij voor de Vrijheid (Party for Freedom).
<b>'Shocking'</b>
In November it turned out, according to professor Islamic Law Ruud Peters, that muslim parents in The Netherlands were on grand scale already drawing up their testaments 'conforming to the islamic sharia law'. Notaries would, sometimes with difficulty, agree to this, because the Dutch contract rights after all offers/allows room for this.
Wilders called this 'schocking' and demanded explanation from minister Hirsch Ballin. According to the minister, the judge will ultimately determine if the contents of a sharia-will is in conflict with the constitution of the Dutch (lawful) state. Disadvantaged daughters can therefore still appeal to the judges on the equality of man and woman.
<b>Freedom</b>
Hirsch Ballin thinks that a will that has been drawn up on the basis of the sharia can also be declared void by the judge, because the contents of the document is in conflict with the public order of good usage/morals/customs.
Drafters of a will have, it is true, all freedom to determine to whom they wish to leave their possessions. But Hirsch Ballin finds that it can not be thus that daughters 'systematically' inherit less than their brothers.
By Robbert de Witt<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Netherlands is afraid of islam and of the consequences of putting its foot down. Islam is winning, then?
http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/politiek/art...n/ja/index.html has the original.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Ministry fears violence because of burqa ban</b>
Monday 20 November 2006
In an internal memo, the ministry of Foreign Affairs warns that Netherlands must 'seriously take into account' the violent protests in islamic countries due to the burqa ban.
Foreign Affairs is afraid of a repetition of the situation such as the Danish cartoons of the prophet Mohammed, so writes the AD [newspaper]. The comic cartoons led end last year to massive demonstrations in islamic countries, whereby many died. Western embassies were also attacked.
<b>Reaction</b>
'In the current climate, a vehement reaction is to be expected,' so it is written in the notice. The proposed ban was world-news last weekend. Malaysia condemned a burqaban Sunday in name of 57 islamic countries. It is, according to the country, a discriminating measure that violates the rights of muslims.
Friday, minister of Immigrant/Foreigner Affairs Rita Verdonk (VVD) gave to know that she was working on a law-proposal that bans the burqa in (semi-) public places, such as on street and in public transport. According to the minister, there are no legal obstactles to such a ban.
<b>Submission</b>
The notice of Foreign Affairs not only warns about the consequences of a burqa ban, but also for the risks that the continuation of the film Submission of senior member of parliament, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, brings with it.
'In view of Submission II, the government is seriously worrying about the international reactions and how this can be contained,' it says in the notice.
By Ingrid van der Chijs<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The following is related to post 255 of previous Islamism thread
http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/politiek/art...n/ja/index.html has the original of the following.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Hirsch Ballin dismisses sharia-wills</b>
Friday 22 December 2006
Muslims aren't allowed to have wills drawn up as per the islamic laws where daughters get only half of what their brothers get, minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin of Justice (CDA) finds.
Notaries who've been asked to draw up such wills, would have to refuse this, Hirsch Ballin declared today after written questions from party-chairman Geert Wilders of the Partij voor de Vrijheid (Party for Freedom).
<b>'Shocking'</b>
In November it turned out, according to professor Islamic Law Ruud Peters, that muslim parents in The Netherlands were on grand scale already drawing up their testaments 'conforming to the islamic sharia law'. Notaries would, sometimes with difficulty, agree to this, because the Dutch contract rights after all offers/allows room for this.
Wilders called this 'schocking' and demanded explanation from minister Hirsch Ballin. According to the minister, the judge will ultimately determine if the contents of a sharia-will is in conflict with the constitution of the Dutch (lawful) state. Disadvantaged daughters can therefore still appeal to the judges on the equality of man and woman.
<b>Freedom</b>
Hirsch Ballin thinks that a will that has been drawn up on the basis of the sharia can also be declared void by the judge, because the contents of the document is in conflict with the public order of good usage/morals/customs.
Drafters of a will have, it is true, all freedom to determine to whom they wish to leave their possessions. But Hirsch Ballin finds that it can not be thus that daughters 'systematically' inherit less than their brothers.
By Robbert de Witt<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->