04-15-2007, 06:32 AM
Why is it that Hindus cannot defend themselves even when they know how to. When someone says Elephant God on mouse ha ha why can't the answer be Red sea parted, burning bush ha ha,
virgin birth, walk on water ha ha, goat speaks to prophet ha ha. When they say shiv lng ha ha why not say ;male semetic God' ha ha apparently God having ling is very important.
What is it that allows a muslim to insist that Hinduism with its caste system is so bad when their so called egalitarian religion practices a caste system against women and one is not allowed to say squat about it. Why can a Christian insist their religion is about love and peace even as their co-religionists have conducted genocides and other atrocities in it name.
Semitic religions are highly anthropocentric and 'male'. By distancing the creation from the creator, they have unleashed a war on nature and destroyed harmony. The Hindu narrative must also include the rain, the peacock, the deer, the tiger, the clouds, and the harmony as man/woman understand their oneness with nature and don't seek to undermine it in the name of an unknown God made in their image.
Stories like this:
' It so happened that Sankara and the divine pair reached Sringeri on an exceptionally hot noon. As they proceeded to the river Tunga for their ablutions, they saw a frog struggling in the blazing sun to be delivered of its offspring. A cobra, the natural enemy of frog, raised its hood to provide the frog with shelter and protection from the ravages of the tropical sun.
Sankara was greatly moved by the sight. If there was paradise on earth, here it was, where the lion and the lamb, the tiger and the cow, the cobra and the frog lived in mutual amity and peace. He just turned round when, as she had already stipulated, Bharati, known also as Sarada, decided to stay for good at Sringeri on the banks of the sacred Tunga.'
are unique to indic religions and India.
But it is not as if we have nothing to learn from others. The qawwali, the shairi, and the syncretic
traditions of India have also contributed to her richness. Even as we build our narrative lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.
p.s. how do I change my login name as it is apparently not appropriate.
virgin birth, walk on water ha ha, goat speaks to prophet ha ha. When they say shiv lng ha ha why not say ;male semetic God' ha ha apparently God having ling is very important.
What is it that allows a muslim to insist that Hinduism with its caste system is so bad when their so called egalitarian religion practices a caste system against women and one is not allowed to say squat about it. Why can a Christian insist their religion is about love and peace even as their co-religionists have conducted genocides and other atrocities in it name.
Semitic religions are highly anthropocentric and 'male'. By distancing the creation from the creator, they have unleashed a war on nature and destroyed harmony. The Hindu narrative must also include the rain, the peacock, the deer, the tiger, the clouds, and the harmony as man/woman understand their oneness with nature and don't seek to undermine it in the name of an unknown God made in their image.
Stories like this:
' It so happened that Sankara and the divine pair reached Sringeri on an exceptionally hot noon. As they proceeded to the river Tunga for their ablutions, they saw a frog struggling in the blazing sun to be delivered of its offspring. A cobra, the natural enemy of frog, raised its hood to provide the frog with shelter and protection from the ravages of the tropical sun.
Sankara was greatly moved by the sight. If there was paradise on earth, here it was, where the lion and the lamb, the tiger and the cow, the cobra and the frog lived in mutual amity and peace. He just turned round when, as she had already stipulated, Bharati, known also as Sarada, decided to stay for good at Sringeri on the banks of the sacred Tunga.'
are unique to indic religions and India.
But it is not as if we have nothing to learn from others. The qawwali, the shairi, and the syncretic
traditions of India have also contributed to her richness. Even as we build our narrative lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.
p.s. how do I change my login name as it is apparently not appropriate.
Ajatshatru,Apr 14 2007, 09:00 PM Wrote:justme,Apr 14 2007, 03:44 PM Wrote:[quote=Ajatshatru,Apr 14 2007, 06:56 PM]Shiv
If I could add that Hindus have to resort to the same strategy some people of other religions resort to with when dealing with Hindus in order to try to put Hindus on the defensive
When dealing with such people, Hindus can maybe use the strategy you best described sometime back i.e. the example of 'You farted'...now let the other person start defending himself/herself or the other strategy 'so what if my shirt is torn, your fly is open' is the strategy Hindus can also use instead of Hindus going on the defensive, eventually getting angry and lashing out.
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>>>Why not resort to educating them.
What is the your target audience when you talk of educating them? No.2 Educating them on what specific aspect of Hinduism i.e. Are you talking about educating them about actual history of Hinduism or about threat posed by Js and EJs or about how Westerners(and our own commies) use Psy Op talking about such things as caste system etc ad nauseum to try to put Hindus on defensive. No.3 how do you intend reaching them to 'resort to educating them'? Hopefully solutions to such questions and much more may come out of a frank discussion of Hindu narrative.
I think this is precisely one of the reasons why we so desperately need Hindu narrative and are hoping that conclusions arrived at may provide us Hindus some answers that would prove crucial in our Hindus fight against the threats of Js and EJs now and for future generations.
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