04-15-2007, 11:13 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-narayanan+Apr 15 2007, 09:10 PM-->QUOTE(narayanan @ Apr 15 2007, 09:10 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> This tradition of open (yet discreet) discussions where criticism is voiced, and debate encouraged, must be nurtured. Unfortunately today, it descends into questions regarding the motivations of the questioner (usually attributed to CIA, ISI, 'psec", Congress, yada yada yada). As a result, anyone who is not lobotomized, is rapidly kicked out of "Hindu" discourse. <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-sengotuvel+Apr 15 2007, 09:51 PM-->QUOTE(sengotuvel @ Apr 15 2007, 09:51 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->On the other hand, if a Hindu does feel embarrassed in speaking these facts - then he should not be treated with contempt. Contempt only attempts to show that "I" (who do not feel embarrassed) am superior to "you" (who is feeling embarrassed to speak the truth and may be a dhimmi). Contempt at dhimmi Hindu is laughable - like a slave ridiculing at another. We are in the same boat and should not be against each other. The dhimmi has to be converted. And he can be converted only if you show confidence and affectionate conviction. Not uncertainty and contempt. It is easy to suppress contempt, but uncertainty can be removed only with knowledge of your own narrative.
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Both these quotes are important.
Hinduism is too big and diverse to mould into a single sharp entity. Many sects have tried that in the past and have remained sects. Hindus who have extremist views about a certain approach will end up being alienated from a large part of hinduism. It may seem desirable and even feasible from such a viewpoint to "convert" all of hinduism to that sharp viewpoint, in practice it will pit hindu aganist hindu and likely end up in rancour and division.
Is it possible to convert anyone to a certain viewpoint by showing contempt towards that person?
Even evanjihadis would "show" lot of "love" for the person being converted. Even though they simultaneously heap contempt on his existing religion/culture. But the trick is always to calibrate the contempt for the religion/culture so that person himself never feels that he is the direct target of contempt.
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<!--QuoteBegin-sengotuvel+Apr 15 2007, 09:51 PM-->QUOTE(sengotuvel @ Apr 15 2007, 09:51 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->On the other hand, if a Hindu does feel embarrassed in speaking these facts - then he should not be treated with contempt. Contempt only attempts to show that "I" (who do not feel embarrassed) am superior to "you" (who is feeling embarrassed to speak the truth and may be a dhimmi). Contempt at dhimmi Hindu is laughable - like a slave ridiculing at another. We are in the same boat and should not be against each other. The dhimmi has to be converted. And he can be converted only if you show confidence and affectionate conviction. Not uncertainty and contempt. It is easy to suppress contempt, but uncertainty can be removed only with knowledge of your own narrative.
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Both these quotes are important.
Hinduism is too big and diverse to mould into a single sharp entity. Many sects have tried that in the past and have remained sects. Hindus who have extremist views about a certain approach will end up being alienated from a large part of hinduism. It may seem desirable and even feasible from such a viewpoint to "convert" all of hinduism to that sharp viewpoint, in practice it will pit hindu aganist hindu and likely end up in rancour and division.
Is it possible to convert anyone to a certain viewpoint by showing contempt towards that person?
Even evanjihadis would "show" lot of "love" for the person being converted. Even though they simultaneously heap contempt on his existing religion/culture. But the trick is always to calibrate the contempt for the religion/culture so that person himself never feels that he is the direct target of contempt.