04-17-2007, 10:27 PM
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Hindu Cosmology
Thanks, Alok and Valkan.
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We have instances in our puranas where laws of physics have been broken/manipulated to accommodate certain exceptions.Why dont we assume for a moment that the supreme consciousness is responsible for the laws of physics? May be we are underestimating power of our consciousness. Is it not possible that "it" created everything in first place? Consciousness as we call it has energy associated with itself. This energy manifests/impresses itself upon others/other events.
All the quantum physics approach is unnecessarily complicated and diversionary at best.
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There is an "assumption" in the consideration of "consciousness" in "EveryThing". May be human definition of consciousness largely reflects something to do with "thought", but what about a stone or some hydrogen atom, or bosons or mesons. The "everything" understanding surely falls under human consiousness, and thats the limit of our argument that can be take as premise for "Everything".
Something subjective beyond our brains, remains as pure "Existence", and again that definition is per human consiousness. Since, Existence can be equated to consciousness in different spheres of existence, hence we can consider "fully conscious" humans to "near zero" conscious subjects.. and this is relative.. and again "everything" has life (stone has a large half-life (slow death)), sope the mere presence is concious enough.
imho, its a very fine theory to live with. but, for a great hindu narratives, we need to bring about the stories that highlights these, and more. Again, from being conscious about this does not mean, having understood what is good or bad, or truth and false, that are again subjective. Hence, hindu narratives should include what qualifies good and bad, truth, false, evil etc.. to counter EJs and Jihadics.
of course, for true hindu-ism (SD-ism), this need not be done.. but the need of the hour is to counter attack largely the "EvanJihadics".
Hindu Cosmology
Thanks, Alok and Valkan.
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We have instances in our puranas where laws of physics have been broken/manipulated to accommodate certain exceptions.Why dont we assume for a moment that the supreme consciousness is responsible for the laws of physics? May be we are underestimating power of our consciousness. Is it not possible that "it" created everything in first place? Consciousness as we call it has energy associated with itself. This energy manifests/impresses itself upon others/other events.
All the quantum physics approach is unnecessarily complicated and diversionary at best.
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There is an "assumption" in the consideration of "consciousness" in "EveryThing". May be human definition of consciousness largely reflects something to do with "thought", but what about a stone or some hydrogen atom, or bosons or mesons. The "everything" understanding surely falls under human consiousness, and thats the limit of our argument that can be take as premise for "Everything".
Something subjective beyond our brains, remains as pure "Existence", and again that definition is per human consiousness. Since, Existence can be equated to consciousness in different spheres of existence, hence we can consider "fully conscious" humans to "near zero" conscious subjects.. and this is relative.. and again "everything" has life (stone has a large half-life (slow death)), sope the mere presence is concious enough.
imho, its a very fine theory to live with. but, for a great hindu narratives, we need to bring about the stories that highlights these, and more. Again, from being conscious about this does not mean, having understood what is good or bad, or truth and false, that are again subjective. Hence, hindu narratives should include what qualifies good and bad, truth, false, evil etc.. to counter EJs and Jihadics.
of course, for true hindu-ism (SD-ism), this need not be done.. but the need of the hour is to counter attack largely the "EvanJihadics".