04-19-2007, 09:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-sengotuvel+Apr 18 2007, 10:28 PM-->QUOTE(sengotuvel @ Apr 18 2007, 10:28 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-acharya+Apr 19 2007, 01:23 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(acharya @ Apr 19 2007, 01:23 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->5 Hinduism never state it has monopoly on truth or God. According to Hinduism, God & truth are universal.
Rig Veda states: 'ekam sat viprah bahudaa vadanti' â¦meaning Truth or God is one but learnt men describe it in many ways.Â
6  Hindu scriptures state, âSathya meva Jayatheâ meaning âTruth alone triumps, never falsehood.â So Hindu scriptures allow FREE FLOW OF THOUGHTS.
Hindu authors knew that by allowing absolute free of expression, every one will finally end up attaining truth. They preached, "Ignorance is the root cause of all evils and knowledge eradicates ignorance.'
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I will utilize this post to pen down thoughts that occurred to me late night when I was trying to get back to sleep after a midnight emergency call.
1) Islam says that all children are born Islamic but are misled, so non-Muslims need to be "reverted" to Islamic belief in one God called Allah, who had one final Prophet, Mohammad, and requires you to follow some set rules.
2) Christianity it seems does not lay claim to all humans at birth and humans require to be initiated into Christianity by a rite called Baptism, after which one is presumed to show allegiance to father, son and holy ghost.
3) What does Hinduism say? It says what Acharya has quoted above. Hinduism does not insist that a person should follow Shiva or Allah, as long as he realizes that it makes no difference.
However some Hindus insist that a following of Shiva or Vishnu rather than Allah or Yahweh are sure-fire signs that a person is Hindu. Or they insist that a following of Allah or Yahweh makes a person non-Hindu. As per the definition of Hinduism above, these Hindus are wrong and they are themselves ignorant of Hinduism.
Please post opinions on this conclusion.
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What Hinduism says, is correct about the concept of following "any thing/person" as God, as long on realizes that it does not make difference.. but inclusion of Allah and Jesus means, the concept fails in its premise.
These western religion (xitian, muslim etc) followers does not accept Hindu ways.. hence, the acceptance of Hindu concepts is a problem for these folks. If that is the case, then it is required to make EJ proof, that we should not include Allah and Jesus from the texts of making all these Gods are okay to be followed.
I say, NO. If you are following Hinduism, then its NOT OK to follow Jesus or Allah, as they don't subscribe to Hindu way of living.
Hence, lets get out of this mentality of making the "hindu concept for all" theories, and rather stick to SD purely. The moment Jesus and Allah-ism enters, SDism is trashed.. they are totally opposite to understandings and realizations. Why include Jesus and Allah.
IMHO, all these Gods and Godmen are imaginary characters., or characters who took role as messiahs. They are not GOD(s) anyway, as they themselves agree. Their teachings entirely opposite to SD. Hence, they can't be inclusive.
Henceforth, we should remove this understanding that praying to Jesus, Allah is ok per Hinduism. NO.its not., it flaunts the understanding of the SD theory itself.
unless, Allah and Jesus followers subscribe to SD, ... and that is impossible for them to do, 'cause of their teachings., and blasphemous-ness of doing so. hence, theory of inclusiveness has an issue.
the ways of living is the problem. yes, it is ok for hindu to pray different places, but it is not ok for allah and jesus followers to pray in temples., cause, of the exclusive theism they follow.
Rig Veda states: 'ekam sat viprah bahudaa vadanti' â¦meaning Truth or God is one but learnt men describe it in many ways.Â
6  Hindu scriptures state, âSathya meva Jayatheâ meaning âTruth alone triumps, never falsehood.â So Hindu scriptures allow FREE FLOW OF THOUGHTS.
Hindu authors knew that by allowing absolute free of expression, every one will finally end up attaining truth. They preached, "Ignorance is the root cause of all evils and knowledge eradicates ignorance.'
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I will utilize this post to pen down thoughts that occurred to me late night when I was trying to get back to sleep after a midnight emergency call.
1) Islam says that all children are born Islamic but are misled, so non-Muslims need to be "reverted" to Islamic belief in one God called Allah, who had one final Prophet, Mohammad, and requires you to follow some set rules.
2) Christianity it seems does not lay claim to all humans at birth and humans require to be initiated into Christianity by a rite called Baptism, after which one is presumed to show allegiance to father, son and holy ghost.
3) What does Hinduism say? It says what Acharya has quoted above. Hinduism does not insist that a person should follow Shiva or Allah, as long as he realizes that it makes no difference.
However some Hindus insist that a following of Shiva or Vishnu rather than Allah or Yahweh are sure-fire signs that a person is Hindu. Or they insist that a following of Allah or Yahweh makes a person non-Hindu. As per the definition of Hinduism above, these Hindus are wrong and they are themselves ignorant of Hinduism.
Please post opinions on this conclusion.
[right][snapback]67394[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What Hinduism says, is correct about the concept of following "any thing/person" as God, as long on realizes that it does not make difference.. but inclusion of Allah and Jesus means, the concept fails in its premise.
These western religion (xitian, muslim etc) followers does not accept Hindu ways.. hence, the acceptance of Hindu concepts is a problem for these folks. If that is the case, then it is required to make EJ proof, that we should not include Allah and Jesus from the texts of making all these Gods are okay to be followed.
I say, NO. If you are following Hinduism, then its NOT OK to follow Jesus or Allah, as they don't subscribe to Hindu way of living.
Hence, lets get out of this mentality of making the "hindu concept for all" theories, and rather stick to SD purely. The moment Jesus and Allah-ism enters, SDism is trashed.. they are totally opposite to understandings and realizations. Why include Jesus and Allah.
IMHO, all these Gods and Godmen are imaginary characters., or characters who took role as messiahs. They are not GOD(s) anyway, as they themselves agree. Their teachings entirely opposite to SD. Hence, they can't be inclusive.
Henceforth, we should remove this understanding that praying to Jesus, Allah is ok per Hinduism. NO.its not., it flaunts the understanding of the SD theory itself.
unless, Allah and Jesus followers subscribe to SD, ... and that is impossible for them to do, 'cause of their teachings., and blasphemous-ness of doing so. hence, theory of inclusiveness has an issue.
the ways of living is the problem. yes, it is ok for hindu to pray different places, but it is not ok for allah and jesus followers to pray in temples., cause, of the exclusive theism they follow.