Thomas In India? History Of Christianism In India

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THOMAS Fables:
Friends,
I have always tried to summarise the Tamil Quotes by Authors in a shorter way, but as Friends want Literal translation I Give in detail the following.
In post 61-
Here Former Professor of Chennai University Head of the Department of Archeaology Professor-Dr.K.V.Raman in Tamil says-
Searches made near Kodungallore, at several places considered belonging to the Oldest places, and based on this we can come to a following Temporary conclusions.
The Places in and around Kodungallore, many places where Archeological survey made researches, every where all the artifaces got where Uniform and took us to CE 8th or 9th Century only, this is throughout the area uniformly. The First Human Inhabitation at Kodungallore and surroundings could have taken place only in CE 8th or 9th Century. We have got very good materials on Chera Kulasekara Dynasty, but nothing on prior to that Period.
ThiruVanchikalam- All the articles found can be dated from 10th or 9th Century CE, nothing before that. ThiruVanchikalam, Mathilakam aor Karuppathana- such names are taken literally and seen as Old Vanchi the Capital of Cheras or Karur the later capital belonging to Sangam Period. But the Archeological survey made researches, all of them take us to CE 8th or 9th Century 2nd Chera Dynasty and not the Sangam Cheras. Hence these places cant be Old Vanchi or Karur.
We need to find where was Musiri Port, and is important but it cannot certainly be Kodungallore.//
Professor also says that Virgin Soil without any Human habitation is found at the level of CE 8th Cen.
My previous Summarisation as follows: I summarise it in English, Professor refers to the Archaeological research work done under Mr.Anu John Achhan and after analyzing all the findings says First Occupation of Humankind in Kodungallore Belt and surroundings happened in 8 or 9th Century AD, as Virgin Soil without Any Human Occupation came then, all researches in the surrounding areas took us to the Second Chera period of and certainly Kodungallore is not the Musiri the famous Port referred in Sangam Literature.
On Post-69
This was basically from a book called “Sri Mylapur Temple- Literary and Historical View, by Prof. Dr.S.Rajasekaran, 1989, which was Doctral Thesis done in 1986, on the Same name at Madras University, the Author was then working as Tamil Professor at Nandanam Govt. Arts College, Chennai.
The Kapalishwarar Temple now is not on the Sea Coast but inside, and the existing temple is built only 300 years back at this present location, and by whom etc., are available. However a group of Scholars maintained that the present Temple was built on the same place after the Previous was destroyed, or new renovation. Many other Scholars maintained that the Old Kapalishwarar Temple was on Sea Shore and the learned Scholar Prof. Dr.S.Rajasekaran, 1989, which was Doctral Thesis done in 1986, after going through over various stone inscriptions in Chennai,
The Author Analyses various Stone Inscriptions not just in Temple but also and Archeological findings from Kapalishwarar Temple and Santhome and other stone inscriptions in Chennai gives his views.
The Kapalishwarar Temple as sung by Nayanmars cannot be the Temple in its present Location but on the Santhome Sea Shore, this is more because many Archeological findings at shore is the main reason.

In 1923, Archeological findings inside the Church include Stone Inscriptions, Pillars and God Statues. Stone Inscriptions refet to the Sivan Temple., A Murugar Statue with Peacock was found. Rev.Housten in 1921 found an Sanskrit Inscription- which says –“ all buildings including the Karpagraha belongs to famous Sivan Temple at Mylapur. Another Inscription says Poompavai at ThiruMylappu. All this clearly proves that Old Temple was on Santhome sea Shore.
Arunagiri Nathar in Thirupugal refers to the temple of Kapalishwarar on sea shore, hence ProfessorK.KRaman felt the Temple must be in Shore till 15th Century.
Quotes Census of India-1961; Temples of Madras State, 1 Chingleput District and Madras City, P.204-In early 16th Century the Temple in the Santhome Seashore must have been Destroyed by Portuguese, and the present temple and Tank was built by Muthiappa Muthaliar and his generations 300 years back.

Author analyses various books on Mylapur Temple and comes to the Conclusion as below, and he before concluding quotes the Historic fact- refers to a book by A Short History of Mylapore- S.Kalyanasundaram- that after getting the news that Portuguese has demolished the Temple the Vijaynaagar King Ramarayar in 1558CE, Fought over Portuguese and defeated them and renovated the Temple.
Doctral Thesis done in 1986- Author concludes that Kapalishwara Temple was on Sea Shore of Santhome till 16th Cen, and destroyed by Portuguese and the Present Temple is built in late 16th Century by Nainiappa .Muthiappa Muthaliar
Dr. Deivanayagam’s work being analysed by Christian Tamil Scholars
திருக்குறளில் கிறித்தவம்-மெய்த்திரு (டாக்டர்) எஸ். இராச மாணிக்கம், S.J.
Rev. S.J.Rajamanikam was the H.O.D of Tamil Dept at Loyala College then, and he was asked to present a Paper on –Presence of Christianity in ThiruKural, at Venkateshwara University – Thirupathi in Tamil; here Learned Scholar explains the ideals of Valluvar and how it varies with the important ideals of Christianity- and finally comes to Deivanayagam and I quote-

// I have read several books by Deivanayagam, and I am not able to accept His view Point. Deivanayagam says that Valluvar dos not accept rebirths; Inthavithavan- One who has controlled five senses as Jesus in the first “Praise of Lord” and , Kural’s Van that is Second chapter Glory of Rain as Holy Spirit; i.e., Van is not Rain by Holy spirit, and Kural’ Niiththaar-Ascetics as Christ and Sandror as Chrisians.
Deivanayagam’s these views or the methods adopted by himdoes not Satisfy our minds. The Special principles of Christianity, not even one of them is in Kural. Not even the name of Christ is not there in Kural; where aws th Hindu VEDIC Gods names such as Inthra(25), Vishnu( 610,8,103), Lakshmi(167,84,617) Muthevi(167,617)’ yama(375,765,1050,1083,269,1085), Manmatha(1197); Devas(906, 1073,18, 346) Devalog(58,234,213,290,966,1233) etc., are in Kural. And these are in the book called திருக்குறள் கருத்தரங்கு மலர்-1974,(Thirukural Karuththarangu Malar-1974) Edited by Dr.N.Subbu Reddiyar.

After the First World Tamil Conference; at the request of Annadurai, Thirukural is asked to be researched by various Universities of Tamilnadu; and Madurai Kamarajar University got Kural’ Dharma(Aram).

Lecturer. Kamatchi Srinivasan, was given to write on “Kural and Bible”, and “Kural and Religion” ; she has authored 2 more books. She was from SriLanka and Saivaite by birth; and Physically Handicapped. She got treatment at Vellore –Christian Medical College(CMC) AND was converted to Christianity when she took treatment at Vellore CMC. It was the peak when Deivanayagam’s bluffs where at Peak and University knowing her Integrity and also that She was a Christian then; gave her above topics.
Lecturer. Kamatchi Srinivasan, on reading the Historicity behind Bible lost her faith on Christianity; completed her research and was dead and all her books were published posthumously by University. Here the Author says-“ “மு.தெய்வநாயகத்தின் நூல்களைப் படிக்கும்போது அவர் திருக்குறளைச் சரியாக புரிந்து கொண்டாரா என்பதனுடன் கிறிஸ்தவ சமய வரலாற்றையும் எவ்வளவு கற்றறிந்தார் என்ற ஐயமே ஏற்படுகிறது.- when one reads Divanayagam we get a feeling that whether Deivanayagam understood Kural and also whether Dvanayagam knows or properly learnt Christian History”


I am trying to Understand postings on Knanayas. But basically as per Acta Indica’s Author P.V.Mtthew, analysis the visit of Knanaya Thomas and comes to the clear conclusion that this visit could be in 745CE, and they are the builders of various churches named in Ramban Song; as most of these places where below Sea till then.

That Kodungallore is not Musiri, as I have shown above but I am giving link to website referring the recent archaeological position. http://nasrani.wordpress.com/2007/03/24/mu...xcavations-iii/

The Sanskrit Inscription referred in the above found in 1921, by Rev.Houston and as per Prof.Dr.Rajagoplan, which clearfly refers to the Shiva Temple’ picture with others are available at the following website, only that claiming that could not be interpreted.
http://www.stthoma.com/Museum_sculpt.html#...t%20Inscription . This Stone Inscription as per Archaeological Dept. Tamilnadu has been numbered as 1967/244.
I have just made a Blogsite-http://stthomasstories.blogspot.com

Silapathikaram and Manimekhalai are dated to 250-300CE, both written in Kerala refers to a Discussion of all Religious branches but nothing of Christianity, However Christian Professors have been Wantedly Falsely claimed Sangam Lit and Manimekhalai ( the proper name Siva and Vishnu apprars in this only first time)comes says of Presence of Chrisitians. I will expose them in my next post.

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